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  1. #13076
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    Quote Originally Posted by k2skier112 View Post
    A Texas restaurant owner threw out a family wearing masks who were trying to protect their immunocompromised son

    https://www.insider.com/texas-restau...ect-son-2021-9

    we're fuct as a species trying to avoid a simple virus
    Also, what are you doing out at a restaurant with an immunocompromised child in Texas? Does not compute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    what a looker eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    Is that your wife?


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    Sister.... well yeah....both..
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  4. #13079
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    I got moderna 3 today. Sutter Health offered so I took it. Iím a little warm now and expect an unsettled night.

  5. #13080
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    Quote Originally Posted by k2skier112 View Post
    A Texas restaurant owner threw out a family wearing masks who were trying to protect their immunocompromised son

    https://www.insider.com/texas-restau...ect-son-2021-9

    we're fuct as a species trying to avoid a simple virus
    A species, or just a country? Cause I'm thinking it's the latter.

  6. #13081
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    Quote Originally Posted by k2skier112 View Post
    A Texas restaurant owner threw out a family wearing masks who were trying to protect their immunocompromised son

    https://www.insider.com/texas-restau...ect-son-2021-9

    we're fuct as a species trying to avoid a simple virus
    He says he doesn't allow them because they're political, so we can only assume he'd also kick out anyone wearing a MAGA hat, right?

  7. #13082
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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    but.... but.... 4 of her family members have died from the vax! Sigh. I just can't go there. It will ruin my day.
    That's impressive. I'm having trouble imagining how. Accidental poke in the eye? Severe eye pain then caused them to run into traffic? I'd question reality too after that. Or at least have questions about my friend's grip on reality.

    I have friends with similar vax realities, so I understand the suffering. For me, a walk helps. That and the hope that one way or another it'll work out ok. Most things do.

  8. #13083
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    I got moderna 3 today. Sutter Health offered so I took it. Iím a little warm now and expect an unsettled night.
    I wouldn't mind throwing a moderna dose on top of the two pfizers I already have.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

  9. #13084
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    I got moderna 3 today. Sutter Health offered so I took it. I’m a little warm now and expect an unsettled night.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    I wouldn't mind throwing a moderna dose on top of the two pfizers I already have.
    You guys starting to sound like a bunch of crackheads with these things...


  10. #13085
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    To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    I wouldn't mind throwing a moderna dose on top of the two pfizers I already have.
    Two friends have done this. Oneís a Pulmonary Critical Care Doc (COVID ICU), his wife is Medical ICU (COVID ICU) Nurse with me.

    Our hospitalís ready to go with our boosters as soon as the feds sign off. Maybe this week but prolly next.

    Meanwhile our hospital has closed 14 of our 110ish total ICU beds because we canít staff them. Ballsy move by our ICU Nursing director and the execs finally take note. Weíve been hemorrhaging staff but finally theyíre doing something. Bonus incentives have replaced mandatory OT, for now at least. A 10% base pay raise to help hiring and retention is coming this week. Better a year and a half late than never I guess.

    Numbers are slightly down this week over last. Fingers crossed it becomes a trend. Not terribly optimistic though, and if it doesnít turn around Utah will go to state wide crisis care like I-duh-ho.
    There's nothing better than sliding down snow... flying through the air.

  11. #13086
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    Mandatory OT for nurses is wrong. It should be up to the nurse whether they can safely practice for up to 16 hours/day. In my hospital OT usually meant two back to back 8 hours shifts. I've seen some egregious mistakes by nurses working OT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    I've seen some egregious mistakes by nurses working OT.
    Same from sleep-deprived docs and residents too, I'd imagine.

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    To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

    Going to be really interesting to see what happens mid November regarding the vax mandate for federal workers/contractors.

    Iím expecting weíll lose at a minimum 40% of our workforce if they (gubberment) stick to it. While I generally donít care to see those folks see the door, itís going to cause a great disturbance. Personally doubt it will be enforced at all for that exact reason.

  14. #13089
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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Mandatory OT for nurses is wrong. It should be up to the nurse whether they can safely practice for up to 16 hours/day. In my hospital OT usually meant two back to back 8 hours shifts. I've seen some egregious mistakes by nurses working OT.
    Absolutely. We had six months of that shit, and it sucked. For us mandatory OT was an extra 12 hour shift/week. Too much when you're in COVID hell, staffing a cobbled together overflow ICU in a PAPR for 12+ hours. Couldn't even drink water or take a piss without doffing and leaving the unit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Same from sleep-deprived docs and residents too, I'd imagine.
    At least they have the Nurses looking out, we're the last line of defense for the patient. If something gets past us...
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    Quote Originally Posted by east or bust View Post
    Going to be really interesting to see what happens mid November regarding the vax mandate for federal workers/contractors.

    Iím expecting weíll lose at a minimum 40% of our workforce if they (gubberment) stick to it. While I generally donít care to see those folks see the door, itís going to cause a great disturbance. Personally doubt it will be enforced at all for that exact reason.
    Where are they going to take their skill set where they arenít subject to the vaccine requirement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by east or bust View Post
    Going to be really interesting to see what happens mid November regarding the vax mandate for federal workers/contractors.

    I’m expecting we’ll lose at a minimum 40% of our workforce if they (gubberment) stick to it. While I generally don’t care to see those folks see the door, it’s going to cause a great disturbance. Personally doubt it will be enforced at all for that exact reason.
    It won't be just the government employers, pork projecters "encouraging" folks to get the jab. The cost of healthcare insurance premiums will be double for the unjabbed as well.. So, even if you find an employer (likely a small business) to take you unvaxxed, the cost of your family healthcare coverage will be astronomical unless you cave to the man..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    If you were ever a Sutter Health patient or your doc is in network getting a booster is simple. They didn't ask about anything to schedule it. At the clinic they asked if I were immunocompromised and I said yes. That's it. I feel good but not going to risk pressing the side effects (like I had after Moderna 2) so just rest today.

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    Pfizer to apply for approval for COVID-19 vaccine to be used for five- to 11-year-old children

    "For primary school-aged kids, Pfizer tested a much lower dose — a third of the amount in each shot given now — and after their second dose, children aged five to 11 developed coronavirus-fighting antibody levels just as strong as teenagers and young adults getting the regular-strength shots, according to Pfizer senior vice-president Bill Gruber.

    "The lower dosage also proved safe, with similar or fewer temporary side effects — such as sore arms, fever or achiness — that teens experience, Dr Gruber said."

    however...

    "Pfizer's study still is ongoing, and there have not yet been enough COVID-19 cases to compare rates between the vaccinated and those given a placebo — something that might offer additional evidence.

    "The study is not large enough to detect any extremely rare side effects, such as the heart inflammation that sometimes occurs after the second dose, mostly in young men."

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    Quote Originally Posted by beaterdit View Post
    Absolutely. We had six months of that shit, and it sucked. For us mandatory OT was an extra 12 hour shift/week. Too much when you're in COVID hell, staffing a cobbled together overflow ICU in a PAPR for 12+ hours. Couldn't even drink water or take a piss without doffing and leaving the unit.



    At least they have the Nurses looking out, we're the last line of defense for the patient. If something gets past us...
    I don't get "mandatory OT." What are they going to do, fire you when they're already understaffed? Doubt it.

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    To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

    A family at school all got COVID right before school started, except for the dad. The mom had the Pfizer shot and he had the Moderna. The two kids were unvaccinated.
    Iíve been wondering if thereís data out there about which shot had more breakthrough cases. Been interested that he didnít come down with CV even though the rest of them did.

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    The mRNA volume in the Moderna shot is higher than pfizer I think. So while they both offer protection it appears that modernaís is more robust over time

    Smarter people can chime in and correct me/post actual stats re:breakthroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    A family at school all got COVID right before school started, except for the dad. The mom had the Pfizer shot and he had the Moderna. The two kids were unvaccinated.
    I’ve been wondering if there’s data out there about which shot had more breakthrough cases. Been interested that he didn’t come down with CV even though the rest of them did.
    Mom probably spends more time in the car with the kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old_newguy View Post
    Where are they going to take their skill set where they arenít subject to the vaccine requirement?
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    I don't get "mandatory OT." What are they going to do, fire you when they're already understaffed? Doubt it.
    I've been places where they absolutely did that then just made everyone else work MORE overtime. It was working retail during the holiday season. Ya, a RN or PA has more options.. but bailing on your department in crisis isn't a good look on your resume when looking for a new gig..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Vail Resorts requiring vax for all employees across all resorts and any guests for indoor dining. No masks in the lift line at present other than Whistler. I don’t know if that is going to help staffing issues.

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