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  1. #17726
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    Twenty-six hrs past Pfizer #3. Much different - much worse - reactions this time vs. P1&2.

    Sore arm and shoulder an order of magnitude greater than before.
    Sleep: Had trouble falling asleep +2 hrs after shot. Tossed and turned and woke up at +5 hrs. More tossing and turning then got a few hours solid sleep after about 6 am.

    At +16 hrs did some house maintenance/clean up, swept and bagged some leaves, looked at a leaky rain gutter.

    Got very sleepy about noon, 18 -20 hrs past shot. Slept for a few more hours, shoulder still very sore. Very little appetite, am trying to eat a baked potato now, appetite isn't there.

    The most concerning thing is chills and shakes, which started at +18 hrs after shot. Tip of both thumbs was cold and numb. Was still able to sleep for three hours. Upon waking up still have chills but shaking has reduced considerably. After I stare at this half-eaten baked potato a little longer I'm going to sleep hopefully for 12 or more hours.

    Anything sweet -- soda, fruit juice, chocolate -- it totally unappetizing.
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    In defence of the baked potato, they aren't especially appetising with or without a booster on-board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    So if Omicron ends up being more transmissible but less virulent than Delta, and vaccines still work reasonably well against it, that would actually be a good thing, right? It would more or less replace Delta
    Depends what "less virulent" actually means and also it depends whether your mean "more transmissible" in terms of a higher R0 or if you mean immune evasive. The latter could be bad because then you reinfect people or get breakthrough... there's lots of bad things things COVID does that don't necessarily involve hospitalization, such as the constellation of things that make up Long COVID.
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  4. #17729
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody Famous View Post
    Twenty-six hrs past Pfizer #3. Much different - much worse - reactions this time vs. P1&2.

    Sore arm and shoulder an order of magnitude greater than before.
    Sleep: Had trouble falling asleep +2 hrs after shot. Tossed and turned and woke up at +5 hrs. More tossing and turning then got a few hours solid sleep after about 6 am.

    At +16 hrs did some house maintenance/clean up, swept and bagged some leaves, looked at a leaky rain gutter.

    Got very sleepy about noon, 18 -20 hrs past shot. Slept for a few more hours, shoulder still very sore. Very little appetite, am trying to eat a baked potato now, appetite isn't there.

    The most concerning thing is chills and shakes, which started at +18 hrs after shot. Tip of both thumbs was cold and numb. Was still able to sleep for three hours. Upon waking up still have chills but shaking has reduced considerably. After I stare at this half-eaten baked potato a little longer I'm going to sleep hopefully for 12 or more hours.

    Anything sweet -- soda, fruit juice, chocolate -- it totally unappetizing.
    Sounds like you should get tested. You might have been coming down with it before the jab. The extremity numbness and loss of taste are pretty common symptoms of COVID. I've not heard of anyone experiencing those from the vaccine..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Depends what "less virulent" actually means and also it depends whether your mean "more transmissible" in terms of a higher R0 or if you mean immune evasive. The latter could be bad because then you reinfect people or get breakthrough... there's lots of bad things things COVID does that don't necessarily involve hospitalization, such as the constellation of things that make up Long COVID.
    Well shit. And yeah, I'm way more worried about long covid type stuff for myself than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    Well shit. And yeah, I'm way more worried about long covid type stuff for myself than anything else.
    That's my primary worry as well...but there are plenty of stories about perfectly healthy people ending up no vents or dead.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    My wife's already got a clotting disorder. We're watching her INR more closely post COVID and it's been a little more difficult to keep stable but not really crazy thank Dog..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    So if Omicron ends up being more transmissible but less virulent than Delta, and vaccines still work reasonably well against it, that would actually be a good thing, right? It would more or less replace Delta
    Or you end up with both - Delta infecting the unvaccinated, and Omicron infecting the vaccinated.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/omicro...twin-outbreaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summer View Post
    In defence of the baked potato, they aren't especially appetising with or without a booster on-board.
    Let's be clear - did he Americanize it and add bacon chunks, sour cream, cheddar, green onions, garlic, chives and tons of butter?

    If so and NF didn't have an appetite, he should call 911. Because that shit is delicious.

    Or maybe he just overcooked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    exmidwest anime dorks? Nobody would guess it.
    Sorry anime convention douchebag, SF had the first confirmed case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muted reborn View Post
    Let's be clear - did he Americanize it and add bacon chunks, sour cream, cheddar, green onions, garlic, chives and tons of butter?

    If so and NF didn't have an appetite, he should call 911. Because that shit is delicious.

    Or maybe he just overcooked it.
    Now we're talking about the real issues. Also, the dinner I'm cooking for the kids tonight. Winning!

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    It looks like oroville, ca may be (accidentally?) seceding over mask and vax mandates:

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vv...GX-mFyJl1x0-EU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody Famous View Post
    Twenty-six hrs past Pfizer #3. Much different - much worse - reactions this time vs. P1&2.

    Sore arm and shoulder an order of magnitude greater than before.
    Sleep: Had trouble falling asleep +2 hrs after shot. Tossed and turned and woke up at +5 hrs. More tossing and turning then got a few hours solid sleep after about 6 am.

    At +16 hrs did some house maintenance/clean up, swept and bagged some leaves, looked at a leaky rain gutter.

    Got very sleepy about noon, 18 -20 hrs past shot. Slept for a few more hours, shoulder still very sore. Very little appetite, am trying to eat a baked potato now, appetite isn't there.

    The most concerning thing is chills and shakes, which started at +18 hrs after shot. Tip of both thumbs was cold and numb. Was still able to sleep for three hours. Upon waking up still have chills but shaking has reduced considerably. After I stare at this half-eaten baked potato a little longer I'm going to sleep hopefully for 12 or more hours.

    Anything sweet -- soda, fruit juice, chocolate -- it totally unappetizing.
    Get your thyroid checked. I’ve heard multiple stories from people I know that have had issues post vaccine. Two had known thyroid issues prior to getting vaccinated.

    My wife was reluctant to get the vaccine, her Dr., prior to the vaccine coming out, told her to wait and see. A year later, she finally got a first dose, she didn’t have any real acute symptoms post injection. Since then, she’s felt like complete shit. Her thyroid levels are completely insane now. Heart attack level. Dr. upped her dosage. She won’t be getting the 2nd.
    The other person we know, had crazy acute symptoms immediately post shot, and thyroid also whacked out.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33858208/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    So what ?

    My first flu shot was 1976 for the Swine Flu and I have gotten them annually ever since. So probably 40 to 45 flu shots. Tetnus booster every 10 years or so. OG Shingles vax, then 8 years later the 2-step shingles vax. 17 different vaccines at boot camp. 11 shots for anthrax prior to Persian Gulf deployment.

    I probably have close to 100 vaccine shots in me. Keep em coming.


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    5g boosted and flu bonus
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    but not as bad as the pneumonia
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    It looks like oroville, ca may be (accidentally?) seceding over mask and vax mandates:

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vv...GX-mFyJl1x0-EU
    Fuck Oroville. CA should expel it from the state. Let 'em fix their own damn dam, or drown when it starts to fail again. They were happy to be part of CA and the USA when FEMA and the state were picking up the $1B repair bill the last time.

  17. #17742
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    Quote Originally Posted by SumJongGuy View Post
    Sounds like you should get tested. You might have been coming down with it before the jab. The extremity numbness and loss of taste are pretty common symptoms of COVID. I've not heard of anyone experiencing those from the vaccine..
    Quote Originally Posted by KenJongIll View Post
    Get your thyroid checked. I’ve heard multiple stories from people I know that have had issues post vaccine. Two had known thyroid issues prior to getting vaccinated.

    My wife was reluctant to get the vaccine, her Dr., prior to the vaccine coming out, told her to wait and see. A year later, she finally got a first dose, she didn’t have any real acute symptoms post injection. Since then, she’s felt like complete shit. Her thyroid levels are completely insane now. Heart attack level. Dr. upped her dosage. She won’t be getting the 2nd.
    The other person we know, had crazy acute symptoms immediately post shot, and thyroid also whacked out.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33858208/
    Thank you both for the advice, it is much appreciated.

    This morning -- 36 hrs past P#3 -- I have a very nice transformation. Chills, shakes and numbness totally gone, pretty amazing when you think about it.

    Slept last night for about 10 hrs occasionally waking up then falling right back to sleep. Soreness in shoulder is gone, in arm it's about 5% of what it was, still a small amount at the injection point. In general body muscles feel a little slow and groggy, I wouldn't do a 10 or 20 mile bike ride. Some light maintenance tasks around the house seem entirely doable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkendrenchman View Post
    Or you end up with both - Delta infecting the unvaccinated, and Omicron infecting the vaccinated.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/omicro...twin-outbreaks
    It sure seemed to me like a ton of fully vaccinated people I know still got Delta. Omnicron may be the same and hopefully even more mild symptoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    It sure seemed to me like a ton of fully vaccinated people I know still got Delta.
    My immediate questions:
    Are you in a hot zone?
    What exactly in your mind is “a ton”?
    Like Aaron Rodgers fully vaccinated? Or like Fauci Ouchie vaccinated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody Famous View Post
    Thank you both for the advice, it is much appreciated.

    This morning -- 36 hrs past P#3 -- I have a very nice transformation. Chills, shakes and numbness totally gone, pretty amazing when you think about it.

    Slept last night for about 10 hrs occasionally waking up then falling right back to sleep. Soreness in shoulder is gone, in arm it's about 5% of what it was, still a small amount at the injection point. In general body muscles feel a little slow and groggy, I wouldn't do a 10 or 20 mile bike ride. Some light maintenance tasks around the house seem entirely doable.
    That’s about the same progression I had with P3, except I woke up in the middle of night #3 soaked in sweat and feeling OK.
    Spent the next day setting up tents for our little town’s annual music fest and felt fine.

    I have zero thyroid issues. Ms TBS takes meds for her thyroid and had zero reaction to any of her three Covid jabs

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    We've been in a pretty heavy exposure delta cycle, taking care of in laws.
    Cooking, cleaning, loading into cars and extracting from cars for hospital visits.

    I don't think it's just luck we didn't get it.

    Last week 3 of us got the booster, next day was woozy, arms a little sore, but nothing like what some describe here. All of us had 2 Pfizer sticks, 2 of us had Moderna boosters and 1 had a Pfizer booster.
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    Had zero issues with the first two shots - got my booster yesterday morning and this one is kicking my Fing ass…. The fatigue, chills and constant headache blows…! Still stoked I got the booster especially with all my pending traveling but holy shit I know others have had it way worse and my empathy goes out…!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ::: ::: View Post
    My immediate questions:
    Are you in a hot zone?
    What exactly in your mind is “a ton”?
    Like Aaron Rodgers fully vaccinated? Or like Fauci Ouchie vaccinated?
    My niece got Delta after double Pfizer doses. I don't know of anyone else that had a breakthrough case. She had it pretty mild too...some cold like symptoms for three days. Of course my BIL, her dad, said "see, the vaccines don't work" to which I said "well, she didn't end up in the hospital, on a vent, or dead so maybe the vaccine worked great?" He was not sold.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenJongIll View Post
    Get your thyroid checked. I’ve heard multiple stories from people I know that have had issues post vaccine. Two had known thyroid issues prior to getting vaccinated.

    My wife was reluctant to get the vaccine, her Dr., prior to the vaccine coming out, told her to wait and see. A year later, she finally got a first dose, she didn’t have any real acute symptoms post injection. Since then, she’s felt like complete shit. Her thyroid levels are completely insane now. Heart attack level. Dr. upped her dosage. She won’t be getting the 2nd.
    The other person we know, had crazy acute symptoms immediately post shot, and thyroid also whacked out.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33858208/
    Same thing with a good friend of mine who is otherwise young/healthy but has major thyroid issues. Her doc told her not to get the vaccine.

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    Remember to be hydrated when you get your booster. I’m scheduled for Sunday…


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