To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[chaka]

I guess there's also a mass vax site at the fairgrounds in Monroe, so that might be another option with slightly more availability than King Co.

edit: just saw there are quite a few appointments available tomorrow at the Arlington airport site. Use this site to search: https://prepmod.doh.wa.gov/clinic/search
(and Ted beat me to it. See below)

thanks AD and Ted Striker! that's a handy link!

[Harry]

Ivanka got vaxxed today.




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[Core Shot]

Ivanka got vaxxed today.




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The “working person” T-shirt can’t hide the $300 fancy bra

Poseur

[pureantigravity]

The “working person” T-shirt can’t hide the $300 fancy bra

Poseur

She's hot. I'd vax her.


OKAY. Some science and news skepticism.

"A study by researchers at the University of Oxford has found that the risk of developing rare blood clots is eight to 10 times higher in people with COVID-19 than in those who have been vaccinated. ... blood clots, known as cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, occurred in 39 out of one million patients with COVID-19. That compares with five in one million for people who received the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine and four in one million for those who got the Pfizer-BioNTech shot."

Your chances of getting the vaccine are 100% if you get vaccinated. Your chances of actually getting covid are a lot less.

Adjusted for risk of getting covid PLUS getting blood clots, what is the comparable risk?

Bonus for anyone that know actual incidence of blood clots vs reported in vaccinated group.

Just wondering since I just registered for our local government mass immunology serum injection experiment.

[bennymac]

She's hot. I'd vax her.


OKAY. Some science and news skepticism.

"A study by researchers at the University of Oxford has found that the risk of developing rare blood clots is eight to 10 times higher in people with COVID-19 than in those who have been vaccinated. ... blood clots, known as cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, occurred in 39 out of one million patients with COVID-19. That compares with five in one million for people who received the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine and four in one million for those who got the Pfizer-BioNTech shot."

Your chances of getting the vaccine are 100% if you get vaccinated. Your chances of actually getting covid are a lot less.

Adjusted for risk of getting covid PLUS getting blood clots, what is the comparable risk?

Bonus for anyone that know actual incidence of blood clots vs reported in vaccinated group.

Just wondering since I just registered for our local government mass immunology serum injection experiment.

you forgot you also need the actual incidence of blood clots vs reported in covid19 group

funny how you keep leaving that part out

[Adolf Allerbush]

Plan on annual boosters through EOL. Gotta keep up with 6 and 7g.

I've been thinking this is the plan while the anti-vaxxers gradually get the disease "naturally".

Friend at Kaiser just told me they're gearing up for a spike in hospitalizations...maybe some Easter hangover?

[The AD]

I've got to say I'm not really going to feel any compassion whatsoever for all the people who get sick and die from COVID after choosing not to get vaccinated.

[pureantigravity]

you forgot you also need the actual incidence of blood clots vs reported in covid19 group

funny how you keep leaving that part out

Well ya. Of course!! But that's organic clots. Isn't organic all the rage?

[2bjenny]

Just got Pfizer #2. I wonder if BC BS will send me another $35?

[riser4]

I must have gotten another fucking placebo. Cell coverage sucked at the vaccine clinic. Pfizer #2 is in the arm. I am hungry fro brainuz!

[Flyoverland Captive]

24 hours after Pfizer #2; feeling really groggy, like I have a bad cold without any congestion. My whole body feels weak. Beats getting Covid, though.

[frorider]

Your chances of getting the vaccine are 100% if you get vaccinated.

source?

FC, I was super groggy the day after Pfizer #2 but felt 110% after sleeping 9 hrs that night.

[seano732]

Mrs. Seano got Moderna #2 yesterday and is currently in bed, saying she feels like she got hit by a truck......

[GoldMember]

From everything I've read and heard, sounds like the Moderna vaccine has more intense side effects. Happy to have had Pfizer, I guess. Mine were pretty minimal; a little soreness, groggy for a day and a half. Not much else, thankfully.

[bodywhomper]

I've been thinking this is the plan while the anti-vaxxers gradually get the disease "naturally".

Friend at Kaiser just told me they're gearing up for a spike in hospitalizations...maybe some Easter hangover?

... you mean: “while the anti-vaxxers gradually get the disease ‘naturally’ over and over again.”

[ticketchecker]

Pfizer #2 had me happily on the couch today. Woke up with body aches and fuck my arm was sore. Big fat nap this afternoon and feeling better.

Yeah, I’m with the AD on lowering level of empathy for people who get rolled by covid after passing on the vax. Get your own herd immunity bitch




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[Buzzworthy]

The 16yo daughter is vaccinated now as well with Pfizer #2.
Family is good to go and it’s a large relief.

[pureantigravity]

Heard that pfizer says a thirst booster will be needed at 1 year. Is that for variants, better long term immunity or just to sell more vaccines?

[Hopeless Sinner]

Heard that pfizer says a thirst booster will be needed at 1 year. Is that for variants, better long term immunity or just to sell more vaccines?

all of the above


Borla, Pfizer CEO:

“We need to see what would be the sequence, and for how often we need to do that, that remains to be seen,” he told CNBC’s Bertha Coombs during an event with CVS Health. “A likely scenario is that there will be likely a need for a third dose, somewhere between six and 12 months and then from there, there will be an annual revaccination, but all of that needs to be confirmed. And again, the variants will play a key role.”


When things get really loose I have thoughts of getting Moderna #2 to compliment my 2 Pfizer jabs. I'll be ready for 6G at that point.

[pureantigravity]

A little story. True story. Relative. Vaccinated at 90 years old. Pfizer. Went to visit family for a bday. Granddaughter gave it to him fully 13 days after he got the shot. But he only got mildly sick. Pretty much completely over it in 3 days. Can't imagine what could have happened without the vaccine. Of course, they also would not have visited the BDay get together if it wasn't for the vaccine.

[easyrdr]

A little story. True story. Relative. Vaccinated at 90 years old. Pfizer. Went to visit family for a bday. Granddaughter gave it to him fully 13 days after he got the shot. But he only gold mildly sick. Pretty much completely over it in 3 days. Can't imagine what could have happened without the vaccine. Of course, they also would not have visited the BDay get together if it wasn't for the vaccine.

Holy shit!!!!!! Glad that ended that way and not anything worse.

[old goat]

There's two issues with the idea of a booster--will the immunity of the original shot(s) wear off over time? The only way to know that is to follow antibody levels and also look for a surge in cases among the vaccinated with genotypes for which the vaccine is effective. And will people require a new vaccine for the variants--and the only way to tell that is to watch for cases in the vaccine with new genotypes. At this point they don't know what variant or variants to make a booster for, if it is needed. And of course a lot will depend on whether enough people get vaccinated to keep the generation of variants to a minimum, which seems unlikely. It's all speculative at this point.

Apparently the US has 300M extra doses contracted for--presumably for boosters.

[Adolf Allerbush]

... you mean: “while the anti-vaxxers gradually get the disease ‘naturally’ over and over again.”

You're right. Thank you...although your correction makes me depressed. we're never getting out of this are we?

[summit]

I suspect boosters will have a variety of mRNA sequences with variations to cover variants.

Excited to see this applied to flu... they are working on this now...

[The AD]

I suspect boosters will have a variety of mRNA sequences with variations to cover variants.

Excited to see this applied to flu... they are working on this now...

I have a feeling what is learned from this is ultimately going to be transformative. The question is how long it will take to get there.