To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

**old goat** · 09-30-2023, 05:55 PM

Incubation period average is a 2.6 days, so I'd say 72 hours. But I figure we're all being exposed all the time and generally don't know it. Personally, and I emphasize personally, I test if I feel sick. We're way past testing our way out of this disease.

**SumJongGuy** · 09-30-2023, 08:52 PM

Wife did the double FluVid Friday. She's still not feeling all that great, but functional. I tried Wednesday but only got Flu. Covid scheduled next Saturday.. Daughter went back to work today... masked. She'll wear it through tomorrow, 10 days from her + test.

**Toadman** · 09-30-2023, 08:57 PM

Got the Pfizer updated COVID shot today. Went for my regular Saturday hike after getting the shot and felt good. Seeing a lot of people wearing masks around here these days. Mostly elderly.

**SumJongGuy** · 09-30-2023, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Toadman

Seeing a lot of people wearing masks around here these days. Mostly elderly.

Cases are spiking here. Wastewater samples are testing very high. Hospital cases are also up. I'm assuming that the increase in younger people wearing masks is folks like my daughter who got it and are following the current guidelines to wear a mask for 5 days when going out and about after symptoms fade. Or, at least wearing a mask if they know/suspect they have it regardless of if they still have symptoms and decide to go out anyway.0

**MagnificentUnicorn** · 09-30-2023, 11:36 PM

We’re going back to masks at the hospital Nov 1. That seems arbitrary, if we’re going to do, we should do it now. We have patients being treated in the ICU. We already have a patient that’s requiring probing.

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**Trackhead** · 10-01-2023, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

We already have a patient that’s requiring probing.

Proning- my phone tried to switch it to probing, too

15/15 long term care patients in the end of our hospital had covid, most got Paxlovid. Two required IV fluids due to poor oral intake. One was briefly on low flow 02. Zero died or required any significant pulmonary support.

Small N=15 anecdote

**ex-powderbroker** · 10-01-2023, 08:19 AM

montreal and nyc hospitals are both masked now.

and yet the govt of states like florida continues to spread covid lies and recommend against vaccines.

it also seems like the data collection is basically gone. they had to rip the band aid off at some point but another year of data could have been nice.

**Ted Striker** · 10-01-2023, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by old goat

Incubation period average is a 2.6 days, so I'd say 72 hours. But I figure we're all being exposed all the time and generally don't know it. Personally, and I emphasize personally, I test if I feel sick. We're way past testing our way out of this disease.

Thanks. Agree that we're in it all the time at this point, and testing has taken on a different role.

And "friend" wasn't a euphemism for me, it really is someone else, but I became part of the exposure chain when I spent the entire following day with them.

**DoYou WannaDance** · 10-01-2023, 05:20 PM

I spent 2 days in the car with my boss who was coughing and sick and later told me he had tested + for corona. Luckily I'm unvaccinated and didn't get sick at all.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/health...HG&src_cmp=CFP

**Buzzworthy** · 10-01-2023, 05:32 PM

Great, another brain dead anti vaxer troll.
Fuck off.

**riser4** · 10-01-2023, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by DoYou WannaDance

I spent 2 days in the car with my boss who was coughing and sick and later told me he had tested + for corona. Luckily I'm unvaccinated and didn't get sick at all.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/health...HG&src_cmp=CFP

Show us your wife's tits.

**Trackhead** · 10-01-2023, 10:20 PM

That link is to a 180 page diatribe that is not/has not been peer reviewed.

**Harry** · 10-02-2023, 06:43 AM

You clicked on that link? You just downloaded red chinese malware, have fun. Epoch Times is a front for Fulong Gong.

**Trackhead** · 10-02-2023, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Harry

You clicked on that link? You just downloaded red chinese malware, have fun. Epoch Times is a front for Fulong Gong.

PDF link to 180 pages of trash

**summit** · 10-02-2023, 08:26 AM

The Epoch Times is the Falun Gong official outlet. It is only readable for anti-China diatribes. They are known extreme antivaxxers.

**old goat** · 10-02-2023, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Ted Striker

Thanks. Agree that we're in it all the time at this point, and testing has taken on a different role.

And "friend" wasn't a euphemism for me, it really is someone else, but I became part of the exposure chain when I spent the entire following day with them.

2 degrees of separation is nothing to worry about. BTW--has Kevin Bacon had Covid?

I'm giving DYWD the benefit of the doubt and assuming that they posted that for the giggles.

**summit** · 10-02-2023, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Ted Striker

Asking for a friend: in conference room for one hour (no masks) with coworker that tested neg that morning, but positive that evening. No symptoms. Negative test results the second and third days (30 and 54 hours post exposure). How long before negative tests can be considered to be not infected?

Most people don't convert after 5 days post expsoure with the latest variants. But a few do.

**TNKen** · 10-02-2023, 12:08 PM

Daughter with two vaxxes, but not the last one, positive last week.

**Cisco Kid** · 10-02-2023, 12:11 PM

Symptoms?

**Ted Striker** · 10-02-2023, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by old goat

2 degrees of separation is nothing to worry about. BTW--has Kevin Bacon had Covid?

What if my friend is Kevin Bacon?

Originally Posted by summit

Most people don't convert after 5 days post expsoure with the latest variants. But a few do.

Yeah, that's what I was wondering. They were quite worried due to the their close proximity, whereas I wasn't really worried being one person removed, but I needed to go visit my almost octogenarian mother with other health issues, so better safe than sorry.

**old goat** · 10-02-2023, 09:29 PM

The Nobel Prize in Medicine goes to the scientists who did the basic RNA research that led to the MRNA covid vaccines. That "overnight" "rushed" vaccine development took decades.
https://wapo.st/3EYGfmj

**plugboots** · 10-02-2023, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by old goat

The Nobel Prize in Medicine goes to the scientists who did the basic RNA research that led to the MRNA covid vaccines. That "overnight" "rushed" vaccine development took decades.
https://wapo.st/3EYGfmj

As it should.

**The AD** · 10-02-2023, 10:09 PM

We had quickly developed vaccines due to mRNA advances and many people still being able to work due to computing technology that has enabled remote work, but people still pissed and moaned the entire time about how their rights were being infringed upon. You can't win.

**bennymac** · 10-02-2023, 10:16 PM

And the billionaire who couldn’t make a good mp3 player and thought we needed an animated paper clip to help us write a letter somehow leapfrogged ahead of all known technology to develop a tracking device small enough to be passed through the eye of a needle and needs no power to run and is somehow individualized for 5 billion different people. Where is Bill Gates Nobel Prize huh? That shit is way more impressive.

**XXX-er** · 10-02-2023, 10:35 PM

They interviewed a scientist on the radio who said that research was already done and so they knocked out a covid profile in about an hr

Originally Posted by The AD

We had quickly developed vaccines due to mRNA advances and many people still being able to work due to computing technology that has enabled remote work, but people still pissed and moaned the entire time about how their rights were being infringed upon. You can't win.

are you sure it wasn't just cuz they hated liberals enough to die for the cause ?