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05-10-2021, 12:49 PM #5151
All the anti-vax conspiracy theory types that I know and (used to frequently) interact with, I know them because of their children and their relationship with my children. It’ll be crushing when/if this starts happening with those adults. My wife has parents of several children that she works with that now have long covid.
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05-10-2021, 01:52 PM #5152
I think she's got libertarianism and Christian Science mixed up.
The one allergy medication I would be concerned about would be an intranasal steroid spray. like Flonase. No evidence that I found on a quick google search, but nasal allergies are an overreaction of the immune system in the nose to antigens. Nasal steroids reduce the immune reaction. To the extent that the innate immune system in the nasopharynx protects against coronavirus (does it?) it would seem hypothetically possible that nasal steroids would reduce that protection. My totally unreliable anecdotal personal experience is that I seem to get a cold (a coronavirus?) every year during allergy season when I'm using nasal steroids and rarely the rest of the year.) Last spring when we were stuck in Sacramento I skipped the nasal steroids and found that a mask works better anyway.
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05-10-2021, 02:09 PM #5153Registered User
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05-10-2021, 02:09 PM #5154“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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05-10-2021, 02:16 PM #5155
To be clear I think we need to make a distinction - nasal steroid spray may weaken your immune response in that area and could in theory make covid infection via the nose more likely if exposed. Lots of factors at play here (how long have you been using the spray, how much virus did you get into your nose, how strong is your immune system in general, age, other medical conditions, have you had one vaccine/two vaccines/no vaccines etc)
Nasal steroid spray being absorbed into your body to a level that it could affect your response to a vaccine in a negative way is highly unlikely in my opinion but I bet it’s been studied so smarter people may correct me. (just to circle back to the “I got a vax appointment coming up - what do I do about allergy treatments I’m on?” question) one could skip a couple days of use prior to vax appointment and restart a couple days after if they wanted to. If you’ve been using the spray for awhile you’ll still get some benefit/protection for a few days after stopping.
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05-10-2021, 02:17 PM #5156
1st jab of Pfizer scheduled for tomorrow
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05-10-2021, 03:49 PM #5157
Good friend had 2nd Pfizer last Sunday. Dead today. He’s alcoholic in poor health but still. My Internist said she almost went to emergency. I had serious anaphylaxis reaction three days after Moderna 2.
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05-10-2021, 03:54 PM #5158
Yeah like he said it's easy to dismiss these things as just numbers or the natural outcome of refusing to take it seriously but it still sucks and there's still a community of people who feel the effects. Sorry about your friend.
Struggling with that sentence, the kids or the parents have it?
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05-10-2021, 03:58 PM #5159
Sorry ^^, the whole families got it and several adults now have long covid. Hard to tell about the kids because they already have disabilities.
FDA EUA’d for Pfizer for 12-15 year olds. What other approvals else has to happen for it to be available?
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05-10-2021, 04:08 PM #5160
There are different types of allergic reactions - anaphylaxis (which is one type of allergic reaction) can be delayed but that length of time would be at the extreme. To be clear I’m not saying you didn’t have a bad reaction - could be anaphylaxis or could be another type of allergic reaction.
There also needs to be consideration given for what is an immune system response to the vaccine and what is an allergic reaction.
If you eat shrimp you’re not supposed to have your throat swell up and kill you - but that type of reaction can happen if you are allergic to shrimp - your immune system responds to the shrimp inappropriately.
If you get a vaccination it’s supposed to trigger your immune system. The symptoms you might get could be looked at as an appropriate response of your immune system.
Real vibes for you on the loss of your good friend that’s awful.
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05-10-2021, 04:15 PM #5161Registered User
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05-10-2021, 05:45 PM #5162
Not odd. Nasal congestion obstructs the sinuses and Eustachian tubes. The obstruction of the sinuses can lead to infection and the obstructed Eustachian tubes can lead to pressure in the middle ear which can cause tinnitus.
I wouldn't expect nasal steroids to be absorbed systemically in a concentration that would affect vaccination success. A hypothetical concern for the vaccinated person is that nasal steroids might allow infection of the nasopharynx which could potentially be transmitted to someone else, while the vaccine generated immunity would keep the person from developing symptomatic Covid. Totally speculative on my part.
What were the symptoms of your anaphylaxis? An anaphylactic reaction is immediate.
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05-10-2021, 06:14 PM #5163
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05-10-2021, 06:30 PM #5164
Yep. Immediate. Dry cough and felt my lungs were filling up with struggle to breath. Had to sit up and couldn’t lie down. It might have been GERD but I was sick from the vaccine two days already. It felt dire.. Although, in recent years I get severe environmental reactions where I can’t breath. Could it be cannabis edibles triggering it? I feel like I should be carrying a pen.
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05-10-2021, 06:33 PM #5165
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05-10-2021, 06:39 PM #5166
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05-10-2021, 06:42 PM #5167
Anaphylaxis would typically happen immediately after the injection (or not long after).
3 days later having “immediate” onset of symptoms is not typical of anaphylaxis.
Not saying it was the edibles but I’d wager anyone who has done edibles has had that “omg I’m gonna die should i go to the hospital” panic attack episode
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05-10-2021, 06:46 PM #5168
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05-10-2021, 06:47 PM #5169
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05-10-2021, 06:57 PM #5170
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05-10-2021, 07:07 PM #5171
Yeah I want to be clear (from my earlier post) that this could definitely be an allergic reaction for sure. Be aware that anaphylaxis is but one *type* of allergic reaction.
Impossible for anyone over the internet to diagnose what you experienced (which is why I’m not trying) - but it’s in your best interest to sort this out as much as possible because just saying “I had anaphylaxis the last time I had a covid shot” is gonna potentially impede your access to future vaccines - especially for, but not limited to, covid booster shots
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05-10-2021, 07:14 PM #5172
To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues
I know that and I know how to play the game. I want vaccines. And to be clear, had I rested properly instead of full speed ahead due to personal obligations I don’t think I would have had severe reaction. Rest, water, diet. Very important...next time
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05-10-2021, 07:26 PM #5173
kids (13 yr old) now booked for first Pfizer shot this weekend! Seattle mags, check out allegro pediatric.
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05-10-2021, 08:58 PM #5174
Yeah, no.
Anaphylaxis is not what you experienced. As many have mentioned, anaphylaxis is immediately following exposure to the offending agent, pretty much by definition, as an acute IgE mediated event. Yeah maybe rarely up to ~6H after exposure, but not something that shows up days after exposure (unless you're talking biphasic which is even rarer, requires prior treatment, and is beyond the scope of an interwebz conversation). Anaphylaxis occurs usually within the first 15' or so, which is the basis of the "15 minute observation" rule.
Sure, you may have experienced some paradoxical reaction to the vaccine, it may even have been allergic/immunologic, but as a TRG dentist, I'm gonna bet it ain't anaphylaxis.
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05-10-2021, 09:06 PM #5175
Like Bennymac said, anaphylaxis would be minutes after the shot. Certainly could be some other vaccine reaction, so from your standpoint it probably doesn't matter, other than if you tell a HCW you had an anaphylactic reaction to it, it might affect your ability to get some other vaccine, like the one for cancer they're working on (may you never need it.)
GERD can do that if it's bad enough. Almost killed my wife--shock, extremely low blood oxygen, very low blood pressure, pneumonia. We think she refluxed and aspirated. Fortunately she recovered pretty quickly.
Riser's diagnosis is possible too. Cannabis edibles don't sound like a likely suspect.
But you already have a doctor--don't listen to us.
In any case, there's no doubt that some people have some pretty significant side effects from the shot and some have none. It seems like the range of reactions is wider than for most vaccinations, just like the range of reactions to the virus is so variable.
In the meantime--tetanus shots don't even help 4G.
(apologies for repeating what several other people have already said._
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