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    Quote Originally Posted by bennymac View Post
    Anaphylaxis would typically happen immediately after the injection (or not long after).

    3 days later having “immediate” onset of symptoms is not typical of anaphylaxis.

    Not saying it was the edibles but I’d wager anyone who has done edibles has had that “omg I’m gonna die should i go to the hospital” panic attack episode
    It’s not a panic attack (I’ve had those too). So it’s anaphylaxis type of reaction. Could have been allergy or coincidence. I know how sick I felt after the shot.

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    Yeah I want to be clear (from my earlier post) that this could definitely be an allergic reaction for sure. Be aware that anaphylaxis is but one *type* of allergic reaction.

    Impossible for anyone over the internet to diagnose what you experienced (which is why I’m not trying) - but it’s in your best interest to sort this out as much as possible because just saying “I had anaphylaxis the last time I had a covid shot” is gonna potentially impede your access to future vaccines - especially for, but not limited to, covid booster shots

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    To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

    I know that and I know how to play the game. I want vaccines. And to be clear, had I rested properly instead of full speed ahead due to personal obligations I don’t think I would have had severe reaction. Rest, water, diet. Very important...next time

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    kids (13 yr old) now booked for first Pfizer shot this weekend! Seattle mags, check out allegro pediatric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    It’s not a panic attack (I’ve had those too). So it’s anaphylaxis type of reaction. Could have been allergy or coincidence. I know how sick I felt after the shot.
    Yeah, no.

    Anaphylaxis is not what you experienced. As many have mentioned, anaphylaxis is immediately following exposure to the offending agent, pretty much by definition, as an acute IgE mediated event. Yeah maybe rarely up to ~6H after exposure, but not something that shows up days after exposure (unless you're talking biphasic which is even rarer, requires prior treatment, and is beyond the scope of an interwebz conversation). Anaphylaxis occurs usually within the first 15' or so, which is the basis of the "15 minute observation" rule.

    Sure, you may have experienced some paradoxical reaction to the vaccine, it may even have been allergic/immunologic, but as a TRG dentist, I'm gonna bet it ain't anaphylaxis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Yep. Immediate. Dry cough and felt my lungs were filling up with struggle to breath. Had to sit up and couldn’t lie down. It might have been GERD but I was sick from the vaccine two days already. It felt dire.. Although, in recent years I get severe environmental reactions where I can’t breath. Could it be cannabis edibles triggering it? I feel like I should be carrying a pen.
    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    I got really sick after moderna 2 and so did my doc. Draw your own conclusions. I made no suggestion otherwise.
    Like Bennymac said, anaphylaxis would be minutes after the shot. Certainly could be some other vaccine reaction, so from your standpoint it probably doesn't matter, other than if you tell a HCW you had an anaphylactic reaction to it, it might affect your ability to get some other vaccine, like the one for cancer they're working on (may you never need it.)
    GERD can do that if it's bad enough. Almost killed my wife--shock, extremely low blood oxygen, very low blood pressure, pneumonia. We think she refluxed and aspirated. Fortunately she recovered pretty quickly.
    Riser's diagnosis is possible too. Cannabis edibles don't sound like a likely suspect.
    But you already have a doctor--don't listen to us.
    In any case, there's no doubt that some people have some pretty significant side effects from the shot and some have none. It seems like the range of reactions is wider than for most vaccinations, just like the range of reactions to the virus is so variable.

    In the meantime--tetanus shots don't even help 4G.

    (apologies for repeating what several other people have already said._

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tri-Ungulate View Post
    Yeah, no.

    Anaphylaxis is not what you experienced. As many have mentioned, anaphylaxis is immediately following exposure to the offending agent, pretty much by definition, as an acute IgE mediated event. Yeah maybe rarely up to ~6H after exposure, but not something that shows up days after exposure (unless you're talking biphasic which is even rarer, requires prior treatment, and is beyond the scope of an interwebz conversation). Anaphylaxis occurs usually within the first 15' or so, which is the basis of the "15 minute observation" rule.

    Sure, you may have experienced some paradoxical reaction to the vaccine, it may even have been allergic/immunologic, but as a TRG dentist, I'm gonna bet it ain't anaphylaxis.
    Maybe he got stung by a bee?
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    Epipen and Benadryl

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    My first shot was easy, didn't really notice any issues.

    Second shot took about an hour or two then I had really tight shoulders and arms for ~6 hours. Couldn't tell if it was the shot or stress from dealing with several frustrating work calls. I woke up the next morning sore and stiff and that pretty much carried through the whole day. Then I skied my legs off for 3 days without any issues.

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    don't use an epi pen unless you are having anaphylaxis - unless you want to put your heart through a mini stress test unnecessarily. I

    f youdo need to use an epi pen that is a temporary measure to buy you time to get to your closest ER - whatever gave you anaphylaxis is likely still in your system and it might just suck when that epi pen wears off and you start having the anaphylaxis again - now with an empty epi pen.

    Yes to benadryl for non-anaphyactic allergic reactions - although it may make you drowsy / slow your reaction speed / make you fall if you're old.

    An even bigger yes to going to see your doctor for allergy advice vs us padded room dentists

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraham View Post
    My first shot was easy, didn't really notice any issues.

    Second shot took about an hour or two then I had really tight shoulders and arms for ~6 hours. Couldn't tell if it was the shot or stress from dealing with several frustrating work calls. I woke up the next morning sore and stiff and that pretty much carried through the whole day. Then I skied my legs off for 3 days without any issues.
    Without any issues except for the fact that you no longer have legs.
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    Pretty amazing vaccination rate differences within a single county. Below is rate in King County. Wealthy, white places like Mercer Island (home of deceased Paul Allen) are at 86.5%. Just a few miles south in the Kent, Auburn, Federal Way Zone, which has the largest minority and lowest income population in the county, the rate is in the 40%. Vaccination rate in wanna be hick areas is also low.



    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...-and-east-lag/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Without any issues except for the fact that you no longer have legs.
    I got better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    Pretty amazing vaccination rate differences within a single county. Below is rate in King County. Wealthy, white places like Mercer Island (home of deceased Paul Allen) are at 86.5%. Just a few miles south in the Kent, Auburn, Federal Way Zone, which has the largest minority and lowest income population in the county, the rate is in the 40%. Vaccination rate in wanna be hick areas is also low.



    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...-and-east-lag/
    What's with the downtown Seattle core, Elliot Bay area? 45%?? I would have thought this would be one of the highest areas. Younger population? More homeless not yet vaxxed? That surprises me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uglymoney View Post
    It's easy to get worked up and wish death on antivaxxers but then it actually happens and it is totally heartbreaking and unsatisfying.
    Quoting this for the mag who I discussed this with on FB

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaka View Post
    kids (13 yr old) now booked for first Pfizer shot this weekend! Seattle mags, check out allegro pediatric.
    Not 100% sure how I feel on this one (not that anyone cares). I really hope they don't start requiring it for kids to attend school, etc. Obviously 13 is a lot older then my kids, but I see no reason to get my 5 and 3 yo the vaccine. The survival rate for people under 24 is insanely high and a rushed vaccine in an undeveloped child just feels risky.

    Again...not an anti-vaxxer...kids have all their normal shots, wife and I are vaccinated. However, they keep pushing it to younger and younger kids before we have vaccinated sufficient adults. Personal choice for Chaka obviously and not saying one way is wrong or right. Just not so sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    Not 100% sure how I feel on this one (not that anyone cares). I really hope they don't start requiring it for kids to attend school, etc. Obviously 13 is a lot older then my kids, but I see no reason to get my 5 and 3 yo the vaccine. The survival rate for people under 24 is insanely high and a rushed vaccine in an undeveloped child just feels risky.

    Again...not an anti-vaxxer...kids have all their normal shots, wife and I are vaccinated. However, they keep pushing it to younger and younger kids before we have vaccinated sufficient adults. Personal choice for Chaka obviously and not saying one way is wrong or right. Just not so sure.
    kids hardly ever die from measles, mumps, etc etc. The reason kids should eventually be required to be vaccinated for Covid in order to go to school is the same reason they should have their other shots--because KIDS CAN SPREAD IT TO PEOPLE MORE LIKELY TO DIE. THE POINT OF VACCINATION IS NOT JUST TO PROTECT THE RECIPIENT BUT TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AND STOP THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS SO WE CAN GO BACK TO LIVING OUR LIVES.

    Sorry for the caps but you seem to have it the first 270 times it's been posted in this thread. (I counted.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretch6364 View Post
    Not 100% sure how I feel on this one (not that anyone cares). I really hope they don't start requiring it for kids to attend school, etc. Obviously 13 is a lot older then my kids, but I see no reason to get my 5 and 3 yo the vaccine. The survival rate for people under 24 is insanely high and a rushed vaccine in an undeveloped child just feels risky.

    Again...not an anti-vaxxer...kids have all their normal shots, wife and I are vaccinated. However, they keep pushing it to younger and younger kids before we have vaccinated sufficient adults. Personal choice for Chaka obviously and not saying one way is wrong or right. Just not so sure.
    In my home county, in 0-9 years old, we've had 2061 cases out of about 44,000 total cases. Of the 2061, zero deaths. In the 10-19 years old, 4500 cases, 3 deaths and 20-29 year old, 8700 cases, 2 deaths. Hard to guess what the long-term effects of catching the virus might be for little kids but death certainly doesn't seem to be a real threat. I personally wouldn't get the shot for young kids but I'm certainly not advising anyone what to do.

    ETA: OG is probably going to fry me for this answer but the kids haven't been the problem. That's why elementary schools have been open longer than other schools and is seems they don't tend to spread it, either so not sure I agree with his answer.

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    Yeah...not advising any one what to do either. GOAT...all of the other vaccines given to children have FULL FDA approval. Not just emergency use....if you go back and read the thread, there are a couple places that links to the difference was posted. I counted.
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    As soon as my 10 year old is eligible, she will get the shot.
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    No Gretch, you are just being your dumbfuck MAGA self gargling all that Fox shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
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    kids hardly ever die from measles, mumps, etc etc. The reason kids should eventually be required to be vaccinated for Covid in order to go to school is the same reason they should have their other shots--because KIDS CAN SPREAD IT TO PEOPLE MORE LIKELY TO DIE. THE POINT OF VACCINATION IS NOT JUST TO PROTECT THE RECIPIENT BUT TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AND STOP THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS SO WE CAN GO BACK TO LIVING OUR LIVES.

    Sorry for the caps but you seem to have it the first 270 times it's been posted in this thread. (I counted.)

    gretch is too fucking stupid and entitled to understand, but this is truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
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    kids hardly ever die from measles, mumps, etc etc. The reason kids should eventually be required to be vaccinated for Covid in order to go to school is the same reason they should have their other shots--because KIDS CAN SPREAD IT TO PEOPLE MORE LIKELY TO DIE. THE POINT OF VACCINATION IS NOT JUST TO PROTECT THE RECIPIENT BUT TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AND STOP THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS SO WE CAN GO BACK TO LIVING OUR LIVES.

    Sorry for the caps but you seem to have it the first 270 times it's been posted in this thread. (I counted.)
    fuck that ^^ sounds un-American
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldMember View Post
    What's with the downtown Seattle core, Elliot Bay area? 45%?? I would have thought this would be one of the highest areas. Younger population? More homeless not yet vaxxed? That surprises me.
    That pink zone, with the 45% overlay, is actually south of downtown: Sodo/Duwamish. Mostly industrial and warehouses, large retail, offices, etc. Census data (2010) puts only about 2,300 people (drop from 2,600 in 2000) living there. Median age was around 41, 49% white - I would guess low vaccine uptake mirrors other areas based on race, income, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinevibes View Post
    That pink zone, with the 45% overlay, is actually south of downtown: Sodo/Duwamish. Mostly industrial and warehouses, large retail, offices, etc. Census data (2010) puts only about 2,300 people (drop from 2,600 in 2000) living there. Median age was around 41, 49% white - I would guess low vaccine uptake mirrors other areas based on race, income, etc.
    Got it.

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