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09-28-2021, 12:56 PM #14301Registered User
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unfortunately we had to suffer thru pages of you acting like a stupid cunt who understood nothing
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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09-28-2021, 12:57 PM #14302
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09-28-2021, 12:59 PM #14303Banned
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09-28-2021, 01:03 PM #14304
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09-28-2021, 01:04 PM #14305
“the science” is always checking. You should own your inability to grasp that.
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09-28-2021, 01:06 PM #14306
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09-28-2021, 01:13 PM #14309Banned
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09-28-2021, 01:15 PM #14310Registered User
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09-28-2021, 01:19 PM #14311
What do the words "outside of increasing the odds of not getting infected at all upon an exposure" mean to you? Before you answer consider that, for front line workers, the odds of becoming a vector if infected are much higher than for the general population. So if a booster increases the odds of not getting infected at all when they are exposed, would that have an obvious benefit?
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09-28-2021, 01:20 PM #14312
Skidogs thinking is like a Top Fuel Dragster without the wheelie bar: Full throttle and an instant backflip. Going nowhere fast.
The floggings will continue until morale improves.
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09-28-2021, 01:21 PM #14313
hey, guys...
I thought it would be interesting to look-back at the origin of this thread -
it pales in comparison to Mofro's new information ( one-third of people infected by coronavirus do not have immunity to reinfection, compared to on-tenth of people who have been vaccinated ( If I understood his post correctly )
no.
rereading Mofro's follow-up, I believe the testing is a measure of antibodies, Not ultimate immunity ; Bcells and Tcells Are important to immunity, and are not reflected in this testing, so the percentages that are at-risk of reinfection are believed to be lower ( possibly significantly lower ) ;
but for me, this does give pause to the idea that antibody testing is diagnostic or definitive ( for anything ) ) -
the other thought I thought I could offer, is, to the idea of antibody testing, or testing regarding the potential for transmission, it would be my claim, we already have the latter, and I would ask if the former is necessary beyond a desire for individual Information -
testing for transmissibility - we have that. depending on the level of confidence you want, the coronavirus / covid tests tell whether or not an individual has coronavirus -
an individual who tests negative for coronavirus / covid is unlikely ( but not absolutely certain to not have coronavirus/covid. If you need certainty that a person is not transmitting coronavirus/covid, that person should remain isolated. ) ;
I understand the desire to have antibody testing - especially for people who claim they have immunity to covid from infection -
the claim I am here to make is as a matter of pandemic response, And cost effectiveness, there is a more cost effective option - Vaccination.
the bill for all of this is going to come due -
right now, the cost of most of this is being added to 'merica's national debt - - ( edit. Each country, for that matter )
If you want an antibody test, that's fine, If you can pay for it. but
But as a matter of trying to limit the disease ( and limit the spread of the disease ),
Vaccination is the cost-effective tool.
Not so much has changed, since TNKen opened this thread in December 2020 -
more profane and more vulgar and still entertaining at times --
My thanks to those who are contributing useful information - Mofro, Multi-, MUnicorn, and LSL for sure ( there are others )
respectfully. tj
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09-28-2021, 01:23 PM #14314
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09-28-2021, 01:23 PM #14315
Yeah, there are two related but separate issues with boosters 1) immunology & 2) epidemiology. Are we offering boosters to people in high-risk occupations to protect them because they're at high risk for severe disease or for the safety of the workplace and to keep them on the job?
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09-28-2021, 01:26 PM #14316
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09-28-2021, 01:34 PM #14317
And for the safety of customers in retail settings as well as the safety of the employees. Old people and immunocompromised are likely to feel more comfortable going to the pharmacy store and grocery store if they know the staff is as highly vaccinated as the system allows them to be..
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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09-28-2021, 01:41 PM #14318
It has become a vicious cycle. People don't feel safe because of high disease rates. Disease rates are high because vax rates are lower than they should be. Vax rates are lower because anti-vax sentiment is currently driven by breakthrough infection and booster talk with people seeing it as a sign the vaccines are not working...
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09-28-2021, 01:51 PM #14319
this make it here yet?
Medical experts are warning the public of a dangerous trend that has been spreading on social media where people are skipping intensive care units and instead treating COVID at home by inhaling hydrogen peroxide through the use of a nebulizer.
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavir...ive-trend.html
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09-28-2021, 01:52 PM #14320
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09-28-2021, 02:03 PM #14325Registered User
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The provincial gov is going to give boosters to everyone in care homes next week, they were the 1st people to get the vax probably back in feb/march
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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