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09-21-2021, 12:52 PM #13126Banned
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so wait.....what if 1 or 2% quit the healthcare industry (only using the Federal obligated hospitals) of the 17million? Sounds like huge numbers of people leaving a pretty important industry. Thats what I meant by worse.
Obviously we don't know, and the media does tend to blow things up a bit but the covid implications, beyond the vaccine alone, will stretch out a long time.
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09-21-2021, 12:59 PM #13127
You said:
I mentioned it a few pages back. There are still plenty of health care workers in the "no vax" camp. The mandates only seem to be making that situation worse.
ETA: I see you responded while I was responding. Ok, do we want unvaccinated HC workers in the first place? Yes, it will make it worse from a staffing perspective, but that must be a very small portion of the HC workforce that would rather leave their profession than get a vaccine.Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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09-21-2021, 01:20 PM #13128Banned
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I dont know the answer...thanks for the edit...I just see people with credentials and apparent smarts, deciding against for a variety of reasons. I wish they would all get vaxxed, but 2% of 17 million? Thats a HUGE #, and it could be higher/lower, but man..The hit on many industries could be huge.
off topic of health care, but the NY restaurant mandates are already showing their ugly heads with active "boycotts" of some high end restaurants. An industry thats been crushed by this pandemic now has to be "vaccine police".
Like i said, the long range issues covid will bring, will be felt for years to come.
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09-21-2021, 01:30 PM #13129
I would strongly question the "smarts" these people have, or at least their critical reasoning skills, with regards to getting the jab. Yeah, I don't really want an unvaccinated HC worker caring for my immune compromised relative who could die if this person in their personal life contracts COVID whereas they wouldn't have otherwise.
Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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09-21-2021, 01:32 PM #13130
Honestly, if somebody has a allied medical education and can’t figure this vaccine situation out, I think it might be better in the long run if they step out of the field. It’s a short term problem but, just…these are people who shouldn’t have been passed in the first place
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09-21-2021, 01:32 PM #13131
Honestly, if somebody has a allied medical education and can’t figure this vaccine situation out, I think it might be better in the long run if they step out of the field. It’s a short term problem but, just…these are people who shouldn’t have been passed in the first place
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09-21-2021, 01:32 PM #13132
I would strongly question the "smarts" these people have, or at least their critical reasoning skills, with regards to getting the jab. Yeah, I don't really want an unvaccinated HC worker caring for my immune compromised relative who could die if this person in their personal life contracts COVID whereas they wouldn't have otherwise.
Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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09-21-2021, 01:35 PM #13133Banned
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you realize they have been doing it for a long time right? They arent all vaxxed.
Some of the "smarts" im speaking of are people like MD's and Nurses...Do I agree? Not really, but it doesnt change the fact that many still may refuse to get vaxed in the health care industry. Last thing we need there is any more stress.
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09-21-2021, 01:38 PM #13134
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09-21-2021, 01:59 PM #13136Banned
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09-21-2021, 02:07 PM #13137click here
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I would guess Marin County has passed herd immunity levels. If you get your R below 1, local cases will die out. However, travel and commutes keep bringing in new cases. If your R is close to 1, say 0.9 or 0.95, those introduced cases propagate for a long time before dying out. Meanwhile, travel and commute keep bringing more cases. My feeling is many highly vaxxed areas are already suffering this phenomenon (bay area, NYC, King County, etc).
Taking Iceland as an example, their cases were falling this summer. They opened travel and shitloads of (diseased) Americans came. Cases spiked. School started in America halting most of the travel. Since travel dropped, Iceland cases are falling dramatically.
Marin County's cases would go to zero if they shut the borders. Alternately, once those living in Marin County's commute and travel networks get their shit together, cases will also fall to zero.
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09-21-2021, 02:27 PM #13138
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09-21-2021, 02:30 PM #13139Banned
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09-21-2021, 02:35 PM #13140
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09-21-2021, 02:39 PM #13141
Don't underestimate the number of cranks with credentials who have already quit or have been delivering substandard care. Anti-social tendencies have to be more than a few percent of any population. This could be like cops: drum out the anti-vaxers and ditch a lot of bad ones without even trying.
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09-21-2021, 02:41 PM #13142
Low hanging fruit.
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09-21-2021, 02:47 PM #13143
I asked for a mushroom id on a local fb group and a beautiful redhead came to my rescue to confirm what i thought. I look at her page and she is so over the top with vaccine disinfo though. Multiverse, do you have any charts that correlate ridiculous hotness with vaccine skepticism? I think there has to be a correlation here.
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09-21-2021, 02:48 PM #13144
Flu Vax check!
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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09-21-2021, 02:48 PM #13145Registered User
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09-21-2021, 02:52 PM #13146
Sent from my iPhone using TGR ForumsWhat we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
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09-21-2021, 02:54 PM #13147
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09-21-2021, 03:04 PM #13148
Let’s be clear a lot of the health care workers are quitting not because of vaccine mandates but because the hospitals are overwhelmed with unvaccinated people.
These people are likely vaccinated but just fed up being forced to do overtime in shitty understaffed situations all to deal with idiots who are denying covid even exists or that the vaccine could have helped them in any way. Quitting *because* they are pro vax and they realize it’s not worth the stress and danger to be looking after swarms of people who just couldn’t bother to get it.
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09-21-2021, 03:34 PM #13149Banned
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They are there, and they are still there. How do you know?
I've asked before and it went unanswered. Say you need emergency care, like a real emergency, head to hospital and nurse is non vax? She/he is the only one that can help. No other choices. You dying on that mountain? My guess is big fat no.
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09-21-2021, 03:35 PM #13150Banned
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Some of them sure are. Some not. No question. I never would deny the overworked and underappreciated departures.
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