To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I was born stupid but mommy told me I’m smart.

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[ron johnson]

you or your dimwitted, Trumptarded leaders know better than smart people whose lives have been dedicated to studying, understanding, and battling viruses like this one? You people need to change your behaviors or be exiled to covidland so the rest of us can stop dealing with you.

I'm sorry, but have these "smart people whose lives have dedicated to studying, understanding, and battling viruses" been right about ANYTHING over the past 18 months? The incompetence has been staggering and yet you still put 100% faith in them.

[MultiVerse]

Smart people who dedicated their lives to studying, understanding, and battling viruses achieved perhaps the most impressive medical accomplishments of all time: the mRNA vaccines.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

I’m willfully ignorant and relish the fact that more people will die and the pandemic will go on and on because of the misinformation I help spread

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[ron johnson]

lol @ "Where have I said that transmission rates aren't lower in the vaccinated?" Looking forward to reading about how "less likely to get Covid" is unrelated to transmission rates:

Transmission is what happens when you spread COVID to someone else, not if you catch it from someone else. I haven't talked about transmission in the vaccinated at all.

Notice he said "way less"? I was specifically talking about the long term trends - which show that the protection from the vaccines trend down significantly over time. After enough time, it will not be "way less".

[Art Shirk]

Hey Ron, I heard there is a dam being built somewhere in Utah. You should watch a few youtube videos from high school dropouts and then call up the Corps of Engineers to tell them what they are fucking up.

[GiBo]

I tested positive. My buddy who was in truck with me is also sick. He's waiting for his results. I am so fucking pissed right now. Pissed at the non-vaxed motherfuckers. Pissed at the government for being such pussies about making stuff mandatory. Pissed at myself for getting laxed.

Fuck.

[Self Jupiter]

Ron makes a stop at every bridge for a quick structural assessment

[MultiVerse]

lol, as predicted RJ didn't disappoint. A less obtuse person would recognize transmitting Covid requires getting Covid, but not RJ.

[ron johnson]

Smart people who dedicated their lives to studying, understanding, and battling viruses achieved perhaps the most impressive medical accomplishments of all time: the mRNA vaccines.

I'm talking about the mainstream public health experts. The scientists who created the vaccines are more or less unknown to the public.

[ron johnson]

lol, as predicted RJ didn't disappoint. A less obtuse person would recognize transmitting Covid requires getting Covid, but not RJ.

Clearly. Your post has no validity whatsoever.

[bodywhomper]

Sweden’s parliament past new laws in January to allow their government to enact covid lockdown measures. They couldn’t do that with parliamentary action.

I tested positive. My buddy who was in truck with me is also sick. He's waiting for his results. I am so fucking pissed right now. Pissed at the non-vaxed motherfuckers. Pissed at the government for being such pussies about making stuff mandatory. Pissed at myself for getting laxed.

Fuck.

Sry to hear this, though Topol has theorized that your immune system should be really strong if you come out of this w/o long covid.

[skaredshtles]

I tested positive. My buddy who was in truck with me is also sick. He's waiting for his results. I am so fucking pissed right now. Pissed at the non-vaxed motherfuckers. Pissed at the government for being such pussies about making stuff mandatory. Pissed at myself for getting laxed.

Fuck.

[Kinnikinnick]

I tested positive. My buddy who was in truck with me is also sick. He's waiting for his results. I am so fucking pissed right now. Pissed at the non-vaxed motherfuckers. Pissed at the government for being such pussies about making stuff mandatory. Pissed at myself for getting laxed.

Fuck.

Those guys arent your friends IMO


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[Core Shot]

more deaths and more economic pain? You really are a selfish cunt.

Wow.

For an allegedly gnarly ski forum. Hucking hospital air back in the day.
You’ve all become a bunch of pillow biting namby pambys.

Sweden is now very vaxed. Sweden only shut down concerts and nightclubs. They didn’t stop living even in the middle of this shistorm of media freak out.

Australia just shut down because one 90 year old died.
One.
And the cases. The cases.

Fuck it all. Fuck you pieces of whiny weak human excrement that think your meaningless lives should go on forever.

We’re not here for a long time
We’re here for a good time

By most of your rules skiing should be banned. It’s dangerous.
So is life.

I found some lawn jarts in my moms basement
I’m headed out now to teach my kids how to have real fun.
Maybe later we will have bottle rocket wars.

[bodywhomper]

Only 4 people have dropped hospital air, ever.

[Skidog]

Wow.

For an allegedly gnarly ski forum. Hucking hospital air back in the day.
You’ve all become a bunch of pillow biting namby pambys.

Sweden is now very vaxed. Sweden only shut down concerts and nightclubs. They didn’t stop living even in the middle of this shistorm of media freak out.

Australia just shut down because one 90 year old died.
One.
And the cases. The cases.

Fuck it all. Fuck you pieces of whiny weak human excrement that think your meaningless lives should go on forever.

We’re not here for a long time
We’re here for a good time

By most of your rules skiing should be banned. It’s dangerous.
So is life.

I found some lawn jarts in my moms basement
I’m headed out now to teach my kids how to have real fun.
Maybe later we will have bottle rocket wars.

just dont drink from the hose....i hear thats really bad... lol...

Jarts were the best fucking game invented. Parents and lawyers ruined that shit.

[rod9301]

I'm sorry, but have these "smart people whose lives have dedicated to studying, understanding, and battling viruses" been right about ANYTHING over the past 18 months? The incompetence has been staggering and yet you still put 100% faith in them.

I don't think it's incompetence, but people are entitled, and right, to change their opinion when facts change.

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[CarlMega]

I tested positive. My buddy who was in truck with me is also sick. He's waiting for his results. I am so fucking pissed right now. Pissed at the non-vaxed motherfuckers. Pissed at the government for being such pussies about making stuff mandatory. Pissed at myself for getting laxed.

Fuck.

Sucks. Sorry. But I bet being vax has put you in the best position to deal with it.

[CarlMega]

I don't think it's incompetence, but people are entitled, and right, to change their opinion when facts change.

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I'm actually interested in how they are 'wrong'? Authorities and recognized experts typically qualify their statements - based on the data known at this time or the models predict or specify why they are advocating risk-adverse measures. Further, they are very clear about how policy and interpterion can be fluid and subject to change as more data and analysis is introduced.

In lay person terms though, they've been on fucking point:

social distancing measures lessen transmission
vigilance is paramount
there will be waves and hot spots - it's a long, long process
best avenue for relief from measures and impacts is immunization

Nit-pics about things like revising mask policy as the situation changes is ridiculous. As if the world is static and we're not expected to deal with new data, situational changes, missteps and reinterpterion on a virus that is 2 years old. The loudest contrarians are MAGA heads who laughably cite and reference policy and advice during Trump's admin when his thumb was on messaging and policy recommendations - cleaning up that shit is now 'being wrong'. GTFO.

[neufox47]

https://medicine.missouri.edu/news/s...severe-illness

https://ehrn.org/articles/covid-19-t...e-reinfections


Where have I said that transmission rates aren't lower in the vaccinated?

Lol. Ron thinks a 1% Re infection rate means it has 99% efficacy. Bwhahaha. Who needs a PhD?

It was already pointed out where you said infection rates were equal among the vaxxed and unvaxxed. That was the whole point of your graph, or chart or table, “ya know, one of them funny things with numbers and lines on it I have so much trouble figuring out”.

[Dexter Rutecki]

Responding to trolls isn’t the good fight, it makes a good thread exhausting to follow.

Yeah, there's a line there somewhere but I don't know where it is. Problem as I always see it is people listening to the trolls--if you don't refute the nonsense then what?

Hey Ron, I heard there is a dam being built somewhere in Utah. You should watch a few youtube videos from high school dropouts and then call up the Corps of Engineers to tell them what they are fucking up.

Good one but unfortunately wasted on him.

[skaredshtles]

Yeah, there's a line there somewhere but I don't know where it is. Problem as I always see it is people listening to the trolls--if you don't refute the nonsense then what?

You ignore it! It's the only way...

[splat]

I'm sorry, but have these "smart people whose lives have dedicated to studying, understanding, and battling viruses" been right about ANYTHING over the past 18 months? The incompetence has been staggering and yet you still put 100% faith in them.

Yeah, everyone knows Tucker Calson and ole Houndawg Smith out in Bumfuck be way smarter than them thar city fokes with edumacations.. Take those Brazil nuts off your dick cause we all know you fukkin' nutz.

[Dexter Rutecki]

I'm actually interested in how they are 'wrong'? Authorities and recognized experts typically qualify their statements - based on the data known at this time or the models predict or specify why they are advocating risk-adverse measures. Further, they are very clear about how policy and interpterion can be fluid and subject to change as more data and analysis is introduced.

In lay person terms though, they've been on fucking point:

social distancing measures lessen transmission
vigilance is paramount
there will be waves and hot spots - it's a long, long process
best avenue for relief from measures and impacts is immunization

Nit-pics about things like revising mask policy as the situation changes is ridiculous. As if the world is static and we're not expected to deal with new data, situational changes, missteps and reinterpterion on a virus that is 2 years old. The loudest contrarians are MAGA heads who laughably cite and reference policy and advice during Trump's admin when his thumb was on messaging and policy recommendations - cleaning up that shit is now 'being wrong'. GTFO.

This. They have been consistently correct about nearly everything and when there was uncertainty made that clear. If you paid attention back in Feb/Mar 2020 they told us how it would spread, where it would spread, when there would be surges, what the vaccine would mean, what partially vaxed populations would look like (all these things can be modeled to what I think is a fair degree of accuracy--as much as should be needed, anyway). Obviously they changed guidance on masks early on as the data came in. The idea that this means they shouldn't be listened to is idiotic--it's, as you said, the opposite: they did exactly what they should have done as more was learned.