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01-20-2021, 03:09 PM #926
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01-20-2021, 03:09 PM #927
You're making a convincing argument for Socialism. People don't spend money on prevention as that requires action that may or may not ever pay off, they wait for the cure when they are desperate and will pay anything to get better.
This shouldn't be hard to understand: The best odds of surviving the virus involve not getting the virus to begin with.
Things like social distancing, masking up, and hygeine are all tools to prevent transmission- transfer of virus from person to person. They help make sure you don't pass it on to your mom, grandma, coworker. Adherence here requires a level of comittment most have been unable to achieve- 95% mask compliance needed (70-80% comliance only leads to 20-30% reduction in spread), avoidance of congregating indoors or anywhere with poor air circulation, lockdowns for 6-8 weeks not 2, total lockdowns and not the bullshit 40% of workers being considered essential and exempt. Every one of these efforts has been half-assed, often due to active surbversion by our elected officials. No transmission = no disease, no disease = no deaths from disease.
Nutrition, exercise, and wellness are all measures that benefit the individual, which may decrease severity of symptoms, but do not prevent illness or disease transmission from occurring. My kid picked up a gym membership to continue working out when the MSU gym closed in April. It took several months, but sure enough he caught COVID-19 from going to the gym in October. Young, healthy, and white, his symptoms were mild. Did he pass it on to anyone before he noticed the sore throat and mild fever? Probably not but there is too much virus now to actually know for sure. You can also be in excellent health and fitness but because you don't get to pick the amount of exposure to the virus or where it may end up along your airways if you inhale it, that getting very sick is and has happened to many with proper nutrition, exercise, and wellness.
We want a low death rate, and a low infection rate remains the best way to address it.Move upside and let the man go through...
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01-20-2021, 03:10 PM #928
Just as a point of argument, BMI is a really poor measure as it doesn't really take into account other attributes of fitness, namely muscle mass. I would suspect many here would have marginally obese or overweight BMI whereas a better measure, in my view, is waist to height ratio. I'm considered overweight with a 25.8 BMI but W/H is .45, a healthy ratio. I carry a lot of weight in my legs, likely due to genetics (Dad had big legs), skiing, hiking, and mountain biking. Outside of that, carry on...
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01-20-2021, 03:11 PM #929
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01-20-2021, 03:21 PM #930Registered User
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01-20-2021, 03:22 PM #931
Friend on patrol, early 40's, very fit, contracted COVID over the holidays. Had a bad case of it, respiratory issues, fatigue, muscle cramps, etc. He still has no sense of smell/taste, and has extreme tremors all over his body. His hands, arms, face, neck, legs, all twitch uncontrollably.
In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).
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01-20-2021, 03:22 PM #932
Wasn't the Peloton and Zumba crazes enough to make a solid dent?
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01-20-2021, 03:31 PM #933
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01-20-2021, 03:38 PM #934
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01-20-2021, 03:46 PM #935
And would fight any regulations that would prohibit certain TV advertising, mandate nutritional standards, end certain subsidies, limit food stamps to nutritional food purchases (and mandate cities to maintain a certain density of stores with healthy food options to prevent nutritional deserts), etc.
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01-20-2021, 03:49 PM #936
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01-20-2021, 03:58 PM #937Registered User
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the last person who told me the BMI didnt work for him was about 100lbs overweight, but i think the BMI is a quick and dirty way for the doc to tell if you should lose 10lbs
at a medical convention an anesthetist told me in Alberta at that time they got more $$$ for operating on obese people, so punch the height/weight into the calculator and at a certain figure its " yeehaw we got a bimmer ! "Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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01-20-2021, 05:32 PM #938
Besides which--when people do show up at trailheads to try to get healthier by getting some exercise all the locals start to bitch. And we can't have that.
Having learned what little I know about immunology in the early 70's, the speed and degree to which the immunology of SARS-CoV-2 and its mutations is being worked out is staggering to me. Unfortunately the virus is faster.
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01-20-2021, 05:53 PM #939
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01-20-2021, 09:26 PM #940glocal
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01-20-2021, 09:38 PM #941man of ice
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01-20-2021, 10:37 PM #942
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01-20-2021, 10:40 PM #943
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01-20-2021, 10:54 PM #944
And that person also has children at home full time with new emotional/mental health volatility, and their children need additional school instruction during that person’s typical work day, and that person has their own new challenges related to maintaining their jobs and staying effective at their job, and that person has their own new emotional/mental health volatility. It’s not as simple as you make it to be, IME and in my observations.
And no, I did not read Austin’s post....
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01-21-2021, 02:05 AM #945
I get that. I truly do. I actually do it for a living.
My words were overly simplistic only because I was responding to the post that was saying we don’t need rules we just shoulda kept gyms opened and focused our efforts on healthy lifestyle education and the pandemic wouldn’t have been such a big deal.
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01-21-2021, 05:02 AM #946
Makes sense. Oddly, the gym that I went to until March has ignored the recent closure requirements by the county and state (California), and apparently indoor mask “requirements” were more like recommendations. Lame!
A friend in Tallahassee has been following good guidance for he and his family to avoid catching it. Testing is very available there and they get tested whenever they are aware of being exposed or feel off (eg allergies). The wife/mom is a HCW at a few hospitals (she’s been vaxed). The first “friend” of his to get sick was a gym partner. She exposed everybody at the gym. To keep he and his family safe, they went to distance learning for the school aged kid, pulled the younger from day care, and totally changed their life routine. The wife has no job flexibility, but he reduced his weekly working hours down and basically works 7 days a week for a handful of hours in order to make it all work out. They’ve known a lot of people that have gotten sick and have friends/family that have attended superspreader events (eg wedding) that resulted in large mortality.
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01-21-2021, 05:35 AM #947
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01-21-2021, 06:46 AM #948
Is this you’re scientific opinion?
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01-21-2021, 07:13 AM #949Banned
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01-21-2021, 07:19 AM #950
Yes, we all know what fat looks like.
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