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  1. #12926
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    To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    Go away dipshit, I donít know a single doctor that agrees with what you post and I work with them every day. All specialties, probably close to 100 on a first name basis. None of them think the vaccines donít work.


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    Hey dipshit , reread my intro to that word salad.

    Edit to add: at least the temporary confusion led to a sweet Idiocracy clip. The person that posted the nonsense I quoted would fit right in to that movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    We got that measles under control...eh...

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/17/p...ses/index.html
    Any real point in posting this here or just being a cunt?

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    Whatever the conflict here in this thread is it really amounts to nothing compared to the real world anti 's . I joined on FB Fully Open Canada Chat Room and its got a lot of anger , misinformation and Freedoooommm. They really think that they are superior and oppressed.
    Mrs. Dougw- "I can see how one of your relatives could have been killed by an angry mob."

    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    dougW, you motherfucking dirty son of a bitch.

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    To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by DougW View Post
    On AB. Yes its interesting that a passport ( which is a 180 reverse for Kenny AB Premier) caused such an up tick. Will have to see or be interesting to see what affect it has intermediate term , compare rate 1 week before passport to 4 weeks after. Did it really move the needle? Maybe need lots of things spaced 3-4 weeks apart because it doesn't seem that case counts /ICU etc move the needle.

    Yes its the most American province by attitude but in reality it probably lines up with the best of the states in vax rate and in deaths cumulative is actually lower than the national average. Helped a lot by the fact it totally missed the first wave that hit Que and Ont. Its tole is 57 per 100,000 whereas the national average is 72. US rate is 200 per 100k. This is not to say don't criticize AB as its way better than US. But to point out that headlines are often misleading. Yes AB admitted it made a mistake with the total opening up but when AB fills up its ICU beds it started with alot fewer beds per capita than the US. Same with India, that was 8 weeks ago huge crisis in India, if you look back at that wave it was tiny in comparison. Its peak is 1/2 of the current rate in US.

    I was hopeful on AB strategy would work as at some point it has to end, but I didn't think they had the vax rate to really support that approach. They didn't and it failed. Which means that the vax rate really has to hit 90? or have a lots of ICU beds.
    Perhaps Alberta is a great reference point for how you need more than just a high percentage vax rate. You need the other measures in place as well. The whole ďpandemic is overĒ was not an approach anyone else appeared to be taking. So their read on things was a failure. And the public (especially the health care workers) is suffering as a result.

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    Last edited by bennymac; 09-18-2021 at 11:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougW View Post
    Whatever the conflict here in this thread is it really amounts to nothing compared to the real world anti 's . I joined on FB Fully Open Canada Chat Room and its got a lot of anger , misinformation and Freedoooommm. They really think that they are superior and oppressed.
    Get back to me when they storm their capital building trying to lynch the duly elected legislators then call themselves political prisoners when they get arrested for it. They're getting there, but still holding our weak assed rabbit piss beer..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Apparently offering reluctant Albertans 100$ each to vax didnt work,

    instituting a Vax passport has

    ergo it would seem withholding seems 4 times > a carrot
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    Quote Originally Posted by SumJongGuy View Post
    Get back to me when they storm their capital building trying to lynch the duly elected legislators then call themselves political prisoners when they get arrested for it. They're getting there, but still holding our weak assed rabbit piss beer..
    someone was just whining that our government is broken, but they don't want an election which would theoretically change the government ?

    but they were just complaining cuz its not the gov they want

    our gov IS working because we are having an election that nobody wants

    the duly elected PM who nobody likes has so far not been accused of stealing an election,

    he will probably be re-elected by a country who doesn't even like him

    and nobody is open carrying anything

    35 million negative normans and Nancy's ... welcome to canada eh
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcski View Post
    Hey dipshit , reread my intro to that word salad.

    Edit to add: at least the temporary confusion led to a sweet Idiocracy clip. The person that posted the nonsense I quoted would fit right in to that movie
    Yeah my bad, I apologized.


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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    Apparently offering reluctant Albertans 100$ each to vax didnt work,

    instituting a Vax passport has

    ergo it would seem withholding seems 4 times > a carrot
    what is the next carrot or stick?
    in 4 four weeks in future if you go to a bar and cause a freedom scene you will get tazered in the balls?
    tax breaks , basically increase tax and then give everyone who is vaxxed a break on the increases?
    what else can you give or take away?
    Mrs. Dougw- "I can see how one of your relatives could have been killed by an angry mob."

    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    dougW, you motherfucking dirty son of a bitch.

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    In AB? Limit the sale of a new full-sized pickup to the vaxxed only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougW View Post
    what is the next carrot or stick?
    in 4 four weeks in future if you go to a bar and cause a freedom scene you will get tazered in the balls?
    tax breaks , basically increase tax and then give everyone who is vaxxed a break on the increases?
    what else can you give or take away?
    Probably don't need to if the vax rates are high enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    In AB? Limit the sale of a new full-sized pickup to the vaxxed only.
    Ha

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    Krispy Kreme did it right: the sooner you got the shot the more donuts you got. $100 once just says: wait--next month it'll be more!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    In AB? Limit the sale of a new full-sized pickup to the vaxxed only.
    BAAHAHAHAHA !!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    In AB? Limit the sale of a new full-sized pickup to the vaxxed only.
    that would work in Sask to

    but yes very funny
    Mrs. Dougw- "I can see how one of your relatives could have been killed by an angry mob."

    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    dougW, you motherfucking dirty son of a bitch.

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    +\- How many CV cases will come from the Alabama/Florida game today? Iíll say 10,000.

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    A buddy of mine was in a car accident with his wife, his wife is getting transfered to a hospitol 4 hrs away cuz of the covid outbreak which is pretty fucked

    I just heard from medical bro that people are coming in for the vax cuz they really have no choice but they are angry

    fortunatley there arent many hand guns in floating around but just you wait

    probably time to have security and camera's at the vax clinic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    In AB? Limit the sale of a new full-sized pickup to the vaxxed only.
    Also do not allow the unvaxxed 4 wheel drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    In AB? Limit the sale of a new full-sized pickup to the vaxxed only.
    Down here they'd say that violates their 2nd Amendment rights. They roll those because they think they also make good tactical assault vehicles .. prepping for the race war... Murikan Taliban... Vanilla ISIS... Ya'll Queda style!
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    Big gap between Pfizer, Moderna vaccines seen for preventing COVID hospitalizations
    Amid persistent concerns that the protection offered by COVID-19 vaccines may be waning, a report released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention finds that America’s workhorse shot is significantly less effective at preventing severe cases of disease over the long term than many experts had realized.

    Data collected from 18 states between March and August suggest the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine reduces the risk of being hospitalized with COVID-19 by 91% in the first four months after receiving the second dose. Beyond 120 days, however, that vaccine efficacy drops to 77%.

    Meanwhile, Moderna’s vaccine was 93% effective at reducing the short-term risk of COVID-19 hospitalization and remained 92% effective after 120 days.

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    “The content of the mRNA in the Moderna vaccine is 100 micrograms. In the Phase 3 trial for Pfizer, the concentration is lower, around 30 micrograms.” Kilgore said. "That may also mean, when you have higher concentrations in lipid nanoparticle, you have more mRNA that stays around, even at a higher temperature.

    “Because there’s only 30 micrograms in the Pfizer mRNA vaccine it’s really critical that those micrograms remain intact.”

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    My threshold was always 50 micrograms. Below that, I really could never feel much if any effect.

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    So the craft brew is checking ever one for the Vax

    they scan your vax code you have down loaded to your phone on their system
    I just sent it to myself in a text so its easy to bring up

    it checks the DB to see if you are vaxed

    without a valid vax code no sit down service for the beer or food or a movie and probably some other shit too

    super quick n easy

    I gave the owner a thumbs up
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    Go away dipshit, I don’t know a single doctor that agrees with what you post and I work with them every day. All specialties, probably close to 100 on a first name basis. None of them think the vaccines don’t work.


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    You call doctors by their first name? I would have written you up for that. (There was one of my partners who had me as an attending when she was a resident who refused to call me by my first name.)

    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    A buddy of mine was in a car accident with his wife, his wife is getting transfered to a hospitol 4 hrs away cuz of the covid outbreak which is pretty fucked

    I just heard from medical bro that people are coming in for the vax cuz they really have no choice but they are angry

    fortunatley there arent many hand guns in floating around but just you wait

    probably time to have security and camera's at the vax clinic
    The vax still works if you're angry.

    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    My threshold was always 50 micrograms. Below that, I really could never feel much if any effect.
    100 mics minimum for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    You call doctors by their first name? I would have written you up for that. (There was one of my partners who had me as an attending when she was a resident who refused to call me by my first name.).
    I call everyone by their first name. What exactly would you have written me up for? Iíd have laughed at you. Iíve been calling docs by their first name since I left the military in Ď93.

    Things have changed. That kind of hierarchical bullshit doesnít foster good teamwork.


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