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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon3 View Post
    My federal agency has decided that the vaccine information is PII and will not be requiring actual proof of vaccination, merely an attestation of vaccination.

    So naturally all my COVIDiot coworkers are just lying on the attestation forms.
    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    That's going to change. Schools have never done it that way.
    A lot of people and employers are mistaken about vax status being PI or HIPAA protected. It's neither and HIPAA was only set up to prevent health insurance providers from sharing your info without your consent. It doesn't say your employer or the government can't require YOU to privide the info it legally anywhere.
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    The "Vax is PII so workplaces can't ask" isn't true. Your SSN is PII, yet you give it to them so you can get paid. There are plenty of things healthcare related an employer can have access to or ask for. You don't have to give it to them, but they don't have to keep you employed either.

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    PI is UNIQUE info that others can use to identify you. Vax status yes or no isn't PI. It doesn't allow anyone else to know EXACTLY who you are by your response.
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    You know this and I know this but the Department has decided they are going to do the bare minimum for now. I’m greatly looking forward to them eventually coming around to requiring vaccine proof and then the shit will hit the fan among my surprisingly conservative and conspiracy-prone coworkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    yep....you're right....nobody ever said let the unvaxxed can basically fuck off in this thread EVER....you're and idiot orders of magnitude higher than any anti vaxxer boss.
    You still have no idea what I think. And are completely wrong in your assumptions about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    You still have no idea what I think. And are completely wrong in your assumptions about that.
    ok maybe not YOU specifically...i apologize, but do you deny there are quite a few here who have the feeling I expressed? I dont agree with that sentiment at all, but its been voiced many times in this thread...

    Now granted we don't "know" if KQ's friend was vaxxed or not, that wasn't my point, nor was it directed towards KQ's friend at all. The point was its funny how many here adjust their feelings when its a mags "friend" vaxxed or not...what makes KQ's friend (if unvaxxed) any different than the "Texas/Florida anti vax nutjob" that won't get the vax?
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    Didnt want to risk long term side effects of C19 vaccine, instead caught the ultimate long term side effect, death.

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    I'm consistent. If you're unvaxxed, due to anything but a legitimate medical condition, you can fuck right off and die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concretejungle View Post
    I'm consistent. If you're unvaxxed, due to anything but a legitimate medical condition, you can fuck right off and die.
    And if you infect children around you who can't be vaxxed may that death process be extremely long and extremely painful.
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    o..what makes KQ's friend (if unvaxxed) any different than the "Texas/Florida anti vax nutjob" that won't get the vax?
    You deserve all the derision that has been heaped on you in the past of you seriously think no one can tell the difference between a con man and his victim. The only thing anyone knows for sure about KQ's friend is that she wasn't so rabid about her opinion/status that she made sure everyone knew it. She wasn't on the radio trying to take over the death cult. You want to bitch at someone, PM Benny Profane and see if he's got any new hot takes for you.

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    "Several gorillas at Zoo Atlanta in the southern US state of Georgia have tested positive for the COVID-19 virus, the zoo said.

    The western lowland gorillas were tested after keepers saw them coughing and other symptoms, it said."
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    Quote Originally Posted by concretejungle View Post
    I'm consistent. If you're unvaxxed, due to anything but a legitimate medical condition, you can fuck right off and die.
    This statement is a slippery slope...as multiple documented instances of genocide in history began exactly this way.

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2014/12...ns-un-official

    "The Holocaust did not start with the gas chambers and the Rwandan genocide did not start with the slayings. It started with the dehumanization of a specific group of persons."

    Also, caring about your fellow man, while simultaneously hoping that your fellow man should die is....conflicting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    You deserve all the derision that has been heaped on you in the past of you seriously think no one can tell the difference between a con man and his victim. The only thing anyone knows for sure about KQ's friend is that she wasn't so rabid about her opinion/status that she made sure everyone knew it. She wasn't on the radio trying to take over the death cult. You want to bitch at someone, PM Benny Profane and see if he's got any new hot takes for you.
    oh so there is a difference...got it....fucking hypocrite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post

    Also, caring about your fellow man, while simultaneously hoping that your fellow man should die is....conflicting.
    you can use the word man...its HYPOCRITE
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    Is there an amount of death from COVID that will make the antivaxxers get a vaccine? I don't want people to die, but these people aren't willing to help themselves or those around them.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    This statement is a slippery slope...as multiple documented instances of genocide in history began exactly this way.

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2014/12...ns-un-official

    "The Holocaust did not start with the gas chambers and the Rwandan genocide did not start with the slayings. It started with the dehumanization of a specific group of persons."

    Also, caring about your fellow man, while simultaneously hoping that your fellow man should die is....conflicting.
    Dear Godwin.. This isn't at all the same thing as handing Native Americans used blankets from the Small Pox Hospital for their winter Trail of Tears journey. Pretty much EVERYONE is doing everything we can to help these fools not die and not kill everyone around them.
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    This statement is a slippery slope....
    What's not a slippery slope but instead a straight line is the small swarm of vocal contrarians here, including you, who carry water for the scammers profiting from vaccine misinformation.

    Time after time hack polyass analogies break down in the face of data and yet that doesn't stop any of you from continuously spewing complete nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    Is there an amount of death from COVID that will make the antivaxxers get a vaccine? I don't want people to die, but these people aren't willing to help themselves or those around them.
    based on my small sample of one person, I doubt it.

    Our Vax-hesitant mountain bike rider has until 9/15 to get her first Pfizer shot or 10/4 to get a J&J shot to keep her teaching job.
    She's decided that she is gonna get a religious exemption. Boiling it all down, she has a deeply-held, irrational fear of any vaccines.

    She got really pissed when I said that I doubt a note from The First Church of Wackadoodle Snowflakes was gonna cut it with the State of Oregon. And even more pissed when I asked if her church's patron saint was named Karen.

    And she will be even more pissed when I tell her that she won't be coming on the McKenzie River Trail shuttle I'm organizing for next weekend. She will be the only unvaxxed person, I'm not gonna get in a car with her, and its too fucking hard to organize shuttling around her snowflakedness.

    And I can live with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    you can use the word man...its HYPOCRITE
    You mean like someone pretending to give a damn about the rights of minorities until it means voting for and allocating funds to help them?

    Or is it like wailing about vaccine inequality in the world but saying the $2-3 dollars per year they personally contribute to global health initiatives is enough?

    Or caring enough about your fellow man to perpetuate misinformation that is meant to dissuade people from getting a vacccinaton that helps everyone?
    Move upside and let the man go through...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    This statement is a slippery slope...as multiple documented instances of genocide in history began exactly this way.

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2014/12...ns-un-official

    "The Holocaust did not start with the gas chambers and the Rwandan genocide did not start with the slayings. It started with the dehumanization of a specific group of persons."

    Also, caring about your fellow man, while simultaneously hoping that your fellow man should die is....conflicting.
    This is pretty funny considering the non stop attempts to turn the word “liberal” into a slur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post
    based on my small sample of one person, I doubt it.

    Our Vax-hesitant mountain bike rider has until 9/15 to get her first Pfizer shot or 10/4 to get a J&J shot to keep her teaching job.
    She's decided that she is gonna get a religious exemption. Boiling it all down, she has a deeply-held, irrational fear of any vaccines.

    She got really pissed when I said that I doubt a note from The First Church of Wackadoodle Snowflakes was gonna cut it with the State of Oregon. And even more pissed when I asked if her church's patron saint was named Karen.

    And she will be even more pissed when I tell her that she won't be coming on the McKenzie River Trail shuttle I'm organizing for next weekend. She will be the only unvaxxed person, I'm not gonna get in a car with her, and its too fucking hard to organize shuttling around her snowflakedness.

    And I can live with that.
    legitimately curious - why not invite the anti-vaxxer? Even if they were to get Covid, the chances of anything happening to yourself or anyone else is negligible… right? The only person she would be hurting is herself; no? Like you’re vaccinated. You’re not going to die. You’re not going to get super sick. You have your vaccine! Right??

    the only reason I see is you just wanting to be a cunt. Like everyone else in this thread towards anyone that doesn’t want to get vaccinated for whatever reason. You don’t care about their health… why feign a concern for anyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    "Several gorillas at Zoo Atlanta in the southern US state of Georgia have tested positive for the COVID-19 virus, the zoo said.

    The western lowland gorillas were tested after keepers saw them coughing and other symptoms, it said."
    Interesting. Will they give them the vax, or Ivermectin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtuhockey33 View Post
    legitimately curious - why not invite the anti-vaxxer? Even if they were to get Covid, the chances of anything happening to yourself or anyone else is negligible… right? The only person she would be hurting is herself; no? Like you’re vaccinated. You’re not going to die. You’re not going to get super sick. You have your vaccine! Right??

    the only reason I see is you just wanting to be a cunt. Like everyone else in this thread towards anyone that doesn’t want to get vaccinated for whatever reason. You don’t care about their health… why feign a concern for anyone else?
    of course you would, you simpleton

    for clarity (& yet again for the slow), the whole point of masking distancing & vaccinating is to deter spread, not create instantaneous immunity. And it takes a long time, especially with a whole cohort of fucksticks acting like selfish toddlers, not realizing their premise of basic safety is generously being tendered by the responsible people around them as they throw a fit over fantasy grievances.

    your perceived victimization for your ignorant opinions is the cross you have to bear as long as you continue to deny the facts about this virus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    "Several gorillas at Zoo Atlanta in the southern US state of Georgia have tested positive for the COVID-19 virus, the zoo said.

    The western lowland gorillas were tested after keepers saw them coughing and other symptoms, it said."
    So can you beat them in a fair fight now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post
    based on my small sample of one person, I doubt it.

    Our Vax-hesitant mountain bike rider has until 9/15 to get her first Pfizer shot or 10/4 to get a J&J shot to keep her teaching job.
    She's decided that she is gonna get a religious exemption. Boiling it all down, she has a deeply-held, irrational fear of any vaccines.

    She got really pissed when I said that I doubt a note from The First Church of Wackadoodle Snowflakes was gonna cut it with the State of Oregon. And even more pissed when I asked if her church's patron saint was named Karen.

    And she will be even more pissed when I tell her that she won't be coming on the McKenzie River Trail shuttle I'm organizing for next weekend. She will be the only unvaxxed person, I'm not gonna get in a car with her, and its too fucking hard to organize shuttling around her snowflakedness.

    And I can live with that.
    I work with several anti-vaxers. Several have already gotten the COVID. Two had really bad bouts. One ended up in the hospital. Since released but dealing with some potential long haul symptoms. One might be clear but had been suffering from a really bad constant cough. But that could have also been related to how bad the AQI has been here in Bend.

    There's nothing you can say to them that will make them get the shot. No amount of family members getting severely ill or dying that will make them get the shot. It's even past Trump telling his cult members to get the shot. I think the only think that might work is for Trump to claim he has come up with the Trump COVID hoax cure. Sell it for $100 a shot at Trump rallies, where you also pay $100 to attend, and then line them up for an actual COVID shot. Where you can also buy an autographed Trump vax card for another hundy. Even then, it might not work. But Trump sure would make bank.
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