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11-17-2021, 04:58 PM #17026Registered User
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What side effects have been reported after COVID-19 vaccines?
In its safety report, the Paul Ehrlich Institute, a German federal health agency that regulates and researches vaccines and biomedicines, lists known, yet very rare, side effects of the COVID-19 vaccines. They include, for example, myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis, an inflammation of the pericardium, whereby the causal relationship has not yet been conclusively clarified
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw....ems/a-59667465
What are you talking about. I didn’t omit shit. Fake fact checking weirdo
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11-17-2021, 05:08 PM #17027
Safe and Effective...just ask [former] pro-cyclist Greg Luyssen
https://nomoresilence.world/pfizer-b...erse-reaction/
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11-17-2021, 05:28 PM #17028
Jesus Fucking Christ. Please stop responding to this Teletech alias……. It is not here to foster constructive discussion. Full stop.
What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
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11-17-2021, 05:31 PM #17029
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11-17-2021, 05:35 PM #17030
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11-17-2021, 05:47 PM #17031
While any bad side effect is sad why discuss it really unless yo can put a number or rate against it?? Ok the is a certain % of this heart condition coming from the vaxx in age group 20-40. To have an adult discussion wouldn't you want to know what the rate of that heart condition in that age group , 20-40 , from having covid? As one can now assume that all people will be exposed enough to be infected eventually that you could compare those numbers. I have seen that that condition is shows up in those who get covid at a greater rate than the vaxxed. So rather than focus on the human interest story like you would see in people Mag why not post the comparison data?
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11-17-2021, 05:50 PM #17032
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11-17-2021, 05:56 PM #17033
The rate with COVID or the rate in the general population would help if that's all you wanted.
Remainder of that link has a very upbeat assessment, though:
"Leading immunology experts in Germany largely rule out the possibility of people becoming ill years later as a result of COVID-19 vaccinations. The human body reacts to the vaccine immediately after receiving the shot or a few weeks later — and can then develop vaccine reactions or more severe symptoms.
In the worst cases — which are, however, very rare — these can be cerebral venous sinus thrombosis or heart muscle inflammation, for example, which can also have a longer-term effect on a person's health. Since more than 7 billion doses of vaccine have already been administered worldwide, even very rare side effects have been discovered. Scientific studies on possible long-term effects are not yet available.
But long-term or late effects that do not show up for the first time until years after inoculation, as some vaccine skeptics fear, are not possible, according to the immunologists we interviewed, and are also not known from other vaccines.
This is because vaccines are rapidly broken down in the body and thus cannot trigger any lasting reactions."
The story of what it takes to hide mRNA so it survives in the body for even a short period of time makes this whole notion of long-term unforeseen issues ridiculous. It's kind of nice that the Germans aren't mincing words.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw....ems/a-59667465
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11-17-2021, 05:58 PM #17034
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11-17-2021, 05:59 PM #17035
Easy. Get Tucker, Hannity, all other faux news talking heads to start talking about how great the vaccine is. I honestly believe these guys would prefer the virus to rage so they can say that Biden isn’t doing any better than Trump. If Trump would’ve won, there’d probably be a higher vaccination rate. Despite concern from Dems that Trump was trying to rush it’s deployment, most dem voters would’ve looked at the science and taken the shot. That’s how utterly disgusting the whole GOP is, they’re willing to willfully mislead people to their death just so they can pass more tax cuts.
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11-17-2021, 06:41 PM #17036
Truth. Though in fairness, Hannity has been very pro-vaccine the times I've listened to his radio show. Of course he couches it in freedumb talk, but he definitely makes no secret of the fact that he's vaccinated and believes in the science. Plus he knows he's losing his audience to covid, so...
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11-17-2021, 06:59 PM #17037Registered User
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11-17-2021, 07:19 PM #17038
An Anecdote! What more evidence does anyone need!?
I missed the claims that Pfizer vax was 100% free of serious side effects.
Numbers I’ve seen say less than 1% rate of serious side effects.
Or about the same as dying in a car crash.
So out of 256 million Pfizer doses administered in US, we can expect to see fewer than 2.5 million severe reactions.
I think there have been more than 2.5 million severe adverse reactions from getting Covid.
All of this has been covered, many.fucking.times, in this thread. I might suggest you search for and read the posts from mofro, summit, triungulate, and multiverse for a start (sorry if I didn’t mention the other medical pros who have contributed).
Or, just STFU…
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11-17-2021, 07:21 PM #17039
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11-17-2021, 07:21 PM #17040
Summer - title and author of that book please.
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11-17-2021, 07:24 PM #17041“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
Kindness is a bridge between all people
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11-17-2021, 07:29 PM #17042
To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues
Nevermind. Late to the party.
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11-17-2021, 07:29 PM #17043
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11-17-2021, 08:13 PM #17044
He says on his Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/greg.luyssen.77 (Sept 14) that he’s retiring from bike racing after docs found some heart problems following second Covid shot.
Greg van Avermaet - noted Classics racer, including Gold medal in road race in Rio Olympics - had a crappy reaction to the jab as well, but not to this extent. And it’s not clear that he didn’t overtrain thru the immune reaction - getting a cold at the wrong time will set these guys back weeks.
Anecdotes…
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11-17-2021, 08:22 PM #17045
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11-17-2021, 09:40 PM #17046Registered User
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consider if you had any reacton at all to a vax
its your faultLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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11-18-2021, 02:53 AM #17047
the vaxxrate in europe is very strange: from country to country and within the states. red vs blue nord vs south good health care system vs bad health care system and gov payouts vs no payouts
i guess austria and germany and switzerland is to rich and people give a shit about the society.
i am thinking the same... but it puzzles my mind.
also country with vaxxmandates and low rates
and country with voluntary program and high rates
this thing is so complicated... but people live in there own bubble and news bubble
but antivaxx discussions on tv by vaxxed politicians just to gaining votes and sympathy is ridicules
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11-18-2021, 08:10 AM #17048
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11-18-2021, 08:15 AM #17049
To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues
Yeah…no
People continue to ignore the provocative problem that was Trump. He wasn’t just a rambunctious lil stinker who was cute in his odd mannerisms. He was actively taking measures to undercut the legal system for his own purposes. Voting, free speech, personal enrichment, etc…he didn’t give a shit and tried to act like a king. He was a menace and should be remembered as a dangerous experiment we barely survived. His dangerous shadow lingers still and needs active rebuttal still.
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11-18-2021, 09:59 AM #17050
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