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    Quote Originally Posted by bennymac View Post
    Although they are both politicians we can, since this is the padded room, leave the politics aside and just focus on the venn diagram of christian evangelical beliefs and anti-science stupidity leading to a prolonged pandemic and the deaths of health care workers who are trying to save the lives of these idiots in denial.



    (Yes - anti science rhetoric is not limited to evangelical christians- nor does believing in a christian god mean you dont believe in science or vaccines or the seriousness of covid. Just trying to stop the regular shit posters already typing up their whataboutism responses)
    Fake Christians.

    The Pearly Gates and St Peter’s judgments must be a steady stream of baffling disappointments for the pseudo Christians coming through.

    “Sure i hated that faggot neighbor and sure I wasnt actual christian towards my fellow man, but I voted against abortion and proclaimed myself a Christian, wasn’t that enough? Wtf?”


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    Keystone is fucking lame. But, deadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick View Post
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    “Sure i hated that faggot neighbor and sure I wasnt actual christian towards my fellow man, but I voted against abortion and proclaimed myself a Christian, wasn’t that enough? Wtf?”
    St Peter: "Nope. Not enough. Hope you enjoy hot weather. On a positive note, I think that Beelzebub has jet skis for the Lake of Fire."

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    Has anyone come across a good poll on vac hesitancy? The only good one I have seen is from CBC in Alberta. Covered , right left, education, age, populist vs not
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tant-1.6024067


    All I have found in searches is more numbers for yes/maybe no for different groups/ages

    thought this was funny
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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    dougW, you motherfucking dirty son of a bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick View Post
    “wasn’t that enough? Wtf?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    21 years later and that scene is still pure gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schuss View Post
    because your antibodies are more narrow-spectrum and may not provide protection from variant mutations. But you're just trolling, so whatever.
    I troll. But NIH is mega trolling


    To better understand immune memory of SARS-CoV-2, researchers led by Drs. Daniela Weiskopf, Alessandro Sette, and Shane Crotty from the La Jolla Institute for Immunology analyzed immune cells and antibodies from almost 200 people who had been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 and recovered.

    Time since infection ranged from six days after symptom onset to eight months later. More than 40 participants had been recovered for more than six months before the study began. About 50 people provided blood samples at more than one time after infection.

    The research was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and National Cancer Institute (NCI). Results were published on January 6, 2021, in Science.

    The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.

    Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied.

    Levels of T cells for the virus also remained high after infection. Six months after symptom onset, 92% of participants had CD4+ T cells that recognized the virus. These cells help coordinate the immune response. About half the participants had CD8+ T cells, which kill cells that are infected by the virus.

    As with antibodies, the numbers of different immune cell types varied substantially between individuals. Neither gender nor differences in disease severity could account for this variability. However, 95% of the people had at least 3 out of 5 immune-system components that could recognize SARS-CoV-2 up to 8 months after infection.

    “Several months ago, our studies showed that natural infection induced a strong response, and this study now shows that the responses last,” Weiskopf says. “We are hopeful that a similar pattern of responses lasting over time will also emerge for the vaccine-induced responses.”
    “Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougW View Post
    Has anyone come across a good poll on vac hesitancy? The only good one I have seen is from CBC in Alberta. Covered , right left, education, age, populist vs not
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tant-1.6024067


    All I have found in searches is more numbers for yes/maybe no for different groups/ages

    thought this was funny
    Forgot "Trump caused this."
    In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    I troll. But NIH is mega trolling


    To better understand immune memory of SARS-CoV-2, researchers led by Drs. Daniela Weiskopf, Alessandro Sette, and Shane Crotty from the La Jolla Institute for Immunology analyzed immune cells and antibodies from almost 200 people who had been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 and recovered.

    Time since infection ranged from six days after symptom onset to eight months later. More than 40 participants had been recovered for more than six months before the study began. About 50 people provided blood samples at more than one time after infection.

    The research was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and National Cancer Institute (NCI). Results were published on January 6, 2021, in Science.

    The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.

    Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied.

    Levels of T cells for the virus also remained high after infection. Six months after symptom onset, 92% of participants had CD4+ T cells that recognized the virus. These cells help coordinate the immune response. About half the participants had CD8+ T cells, which kill cells that are infected by the virus.

    As with antibodies, the numbers of different immune cell types varied substantially between individuals. Neither gender nor differences in disease severity could account for this variability. However, 95% of the people had at least 3 out of 5 immune-system components that could recognize SARS-CoV-2 up to 8 months after infection.

    “Several months ago, our studies showed that natural infection induced a strong response, and this study now shows that the responses last,” Weiskopf says. “We are hopeful that a similar pattern of responses lasting over time will also emerge for the vaccine-induced responses.”
    Are you suggesting that Schuss is incorrect? Because the NIH isn't saying that in what you posted.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Has anyone seen a study comparing the rate of recurrent infection in people who have had Covid to the rate of infection in vaccinated people?
    Has there been any new information on whether previously infected people need both shots of a two shot vaccine? It was previously hypothesized that they might not.
    Regardless, my understanding (from reading Mofro's posts) is that antibody levels after vaccination are much higher than after infection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    21 years later and that scene is still pure gold.
    Reminds me of a joke:

    Vatican City... a Cardinal is rushing down the hall to the chambers where the Pope is preparing the evening sermon. Out of breath he bursts through the door and excitedly exclaims "Your Excellency I have both good and bad news!" Aggitated at the interruption the Pope stops his writing and responds: "Please, the good news first." The Cardinal barely able to contain himself blurts out, "It is Jesus your Excellency, he is on the phone and wishes to speak with you!" to which the Pope responds, "Why that is wonderful news but what is the bad news?" The Cardinal hangs his head and lowering his voice says, "he is calling from Salt Lake City."

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    So I get an email from the Orioles today telling me they're giving away free tickets with free parking if I get poked at Camden Yards.

    Is it healthy to get poked more than once?

    The world is perfect. Appreciate the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    So I get an email from the Orioles today telling me they're giving away free tickets with free parking if I get poked at Camden Yards.

    Is it healthy to go to Camden Yards ?
    Fify
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    You're an extremely white person.

    The world is perfect. Appreciate the details.

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    Well, this is sad. Joel Kallman, software developer at Oracle who helped develop new tracking methods for COVID recently passed away. Died of COVID.
    This guy: https://www.oracle.com/news/connect/...the-cloud.html
    Oracle's Twitter announcementhttps://twitter.com/oracleapex/statu...520520?lang=en
    Oracle's In Memoriam page: https://apex.oracle.com/pls/apex/ape.../joel/memories

    Really sad. And, before you ask. Yes, he was vaccinated: https://twitter.com/joelkallman/stat...21558349565952

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    Are you suggesting that Schuss is incorrect? Because the NIH isn't saying that in what you posted.
    You're implying reading comprehension on his part. Many of us have made that mistake with Core. It's difficult to read in the dark of your own rectum

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    Quote Originally Posted by schuss View Post
    It's difficult to read in the dark of your own rectum
    Sigworthy......
    What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
    -Ottime

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontuckyFried View Post
    Well, this is sad. Joel Kallman, software developer at Oracle who helped develop new tracking methods for COVID recently passed away. Died of COVID.
    This guy: https://www.oracle.com/news/connect/...the-cloud.html
    Oracle's Twitter announcementhttps://twitter.com/oracleapex/statu...520520?lang=en
    Oracle's In Memoriam page: https://apex.oracle.com/pls/apex/ape.../joel/memories

    Really sad. And, before you ask. Yes, he was vaccinated: https://twitter.com/joelkallman/stat...21558349565952
    Only first shot?
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    You're an extremely white person.
    ever buddy on TGR is extremely white
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    Only first shot?
    Unsure. "People" in the Twitter comments are saying it supposedly happened days after his second shot, but who knows if that's true or not? Until I see something more official than some random guy on Twitter, I honestly just don't know. Either way, it's a sad end for a guy who obviously put a LOT of work into trying to help in the effort against COVID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    Only first shot?
    and which matters a little. not a lot, because we aren’t hearing about vaccinated people kicking the bucket. but i would be shocked if it was pfizer or moderna. az or jnj, not so much.
    They got a name for the winners in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml242 View Post
    and which matters a little. not a lot, because we aren’t hearing about vaccinated people kicking the bucket. but i would be shocked if it was pfizer or moderna. az or jnj, not so much.
    dude was from Ohio, so probably not AZ. Looks like he notes that he got the first shot back at the end of March.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    Only first shot?
    Yes, and he dropped off of Twitter 3 days after the shot - given the timeline it seems likely he was infected before receiving the shot, and sadly became seriously ill shortly after. Of course the anti-vax people are going nuts about the coincidence and saying he died from the vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schuss View Post
    You're implying reading comprehension on his part. Many of us have made that mistake with Core. It's difficult to read in the dark of your own rectum
    That gives new meaning to a “shot in the dark”



    Results Among the 52238 included employees [of the Cleveland clinic]. 1359 (53%) of 2579 previously infected subjects remained unvaccinated, compared with 22777 (41%) of 49659 not previously infected. The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection remained almost zero among previously infected unvaccinated subjects, previously infected subjects who were vaccinated, and previously uninfected subjects who were vaccinated, compared with a steady increase in cumulative incidence among previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated. Not one of the 1359 previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated had a SARS-CoV-2 infection over the duration of the study. In a Cox proportional hazards regression model, after adjusting for the phase of the epidemic, vaccination was associated with a significantly lower risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection among those not previously infected (HR 0.031, 95% CI 0.015 to 0.061) but not among those previously infected (HR 0.313, 95% CI 0 to Infinity).

    Conclusions Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.
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    there is a much bigger lab in brazil where the results differed. good luck, cs
    They got a name for the winners in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    ever buddy on TGR is extremely white
    I am literally white as rice.

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