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09-08-2021, 08:09 AM #11651
As long as it stays mostly airborne and not surface transmitted, wearing a good mask should continue to be mostly effective protection and evolving vaccines should reduce severity of infection where GOOD masks and vaccines are available. Places like here in Murika it will be the deniers and freeDUMBers who will keep dropping like flies because they aren't protecting themselves. Bummer for the healthcare workers who have to clean up the carnage. I do suspect that health insurance providers and employer mandates will "encourage" the reluctant to step up when not taking a jab hits them in their wallets HARD.. We definitely need to get the kids vaccinated though.. Once we're there no excuses beyond idiocy.
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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09-08-2021, 08:12 AM #11652
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09-08-2021, 08:16 AM #11653
To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues
I don’t really think you understand what science is. It’s not about your emotional response to “information” that you are spoon fed on the internet and then posting your opinion about your interpretation.
In the last post I quoted you were agreeing that mitigation measures against Covid would bring the pandemic under control but just hours before you were posting that no matter what we do, it wouldn’t matter and we were headed for some type of zombie apocalypse.
As far as masks go, I don’t need a study to show they work. I could explain to a first grader that a mask is a physical barrier that stops some of the exhaled droplets and aerosolized particles from your mouth and nose. I could explain that they’re not 100% effective but masks do reduce your risk of spreading and possibly contracting respiratory disease. I guess you can’t comprehend this.
The more mitigation efforts we put into stopping the pandemic is the only way we stop it. Vaccines, and masks until more people are vaccinated are our best shot. I don’t think there is really any debate about this from a scientific standpoint, it’s only from an emotional and political POV. You can bloviate all you want but it won’t change the facts.
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09-08-2021, 08:30 AM #11654Head down, push foreword
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Unicorn touches something I take issue with—> the blame ultimately falls on those who refuse to get vaccinated but WTF was the CDC etc thinking when they stop encouraging masks at a time when Delta was raging overseas?
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09-08-2021, 08:37 AM #11655
“I can’t wait to get vaccinated so I can take this fucking thing off”
That’s why. It was a real and powerful motivator.
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09-08-2021, 08:39 AM #11656
Out of context and wrong on so many levels. Learn some reading comprehension, bud. I was agreeing that certain things DO help, ie vaccination. That doesn't negate the fact that something gnarlier may still be coming down the pike and it IS inevitable that it will spread around the world, see: Delta. Also, I wasn't saying we'd have a zombie apocalypse, dumbass. I was using 28 Weeks Later as an analogy to say that as long as ONE person out there on the planet has it, the virus has the potential to spread all over again. Especially if it's a new mutation. Back in University, hopefully you read your medical text books better than you do our posts. Sheesh.
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09-08-2021, 08:42 AM #11657
IIRC they said if you are vaccinated you don't have to wear a mask anymore. Of course we all knew how this would end up, being emotional creatures who understand the nuances of public behaviour. Problem is those CDC jobbers can only speak in science and make recommendations as such - I think.
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09-08-2021, 08:47 AM #11658
What exactly ARE your points, though? Maybe just clear it up instead of talking in circles.
Are vaccines effective?
Are vaccines safe?
Should everyone who is able to do so get vaccinated?
Is COVID serious?
Should people who are generally young and healthy take measures to protect themselves from COVID?
Are masks an effective piece in the transmission mitigation puzzle?
It's okay to change your mind as you learn new data. I've been wrong about a lot of shit in the past 18 months. It's all good man.
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09-08-2021, 08:47 AM #11659
I thought that the mask mandate change was too early but I suppose that they assumed more people would continue to get vaccinated because it’s really a no brainer, right?
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09-08-2021, 08:49 AM #11660
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09-08-2021, 08:49 AM #11661Banned
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09-08-2021, 08:50 AM #11662
Here's the issue you're having:
in one statement you're saying that vaccines and safety protocols (SD'ing, masks, etc.) work.
in the next statement you're saying if there is just one person roaming around with COVID-19 in the world that we'll never get over the pandemic.
I hope you can see how those two statements are at odds with one another.
HTHsDamn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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09-08-2021, 08:50 AM #11663Head down, push foreword
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09-08-2021, 08:52 AM #11664
If everyone in this country is vaccinated against MMR there would be no outbreak. Vax hesitant and anti vax people are ruining it for everyone
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09-08-2021, 08:56 AM #11665Head down, push foreword
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“ KEY POINTS
Covid-19 is likely “here to stay with us” as the virus continues to mutate in unvaccinated countries across the world and previous hopes of eradicating it diminish, WHO officials said.
“People have said we’re going to eliminate or eradicate the virus,” Ryan said. “No we’re not, very, very unlikely.””
Am I wrong to think that this absolutely hurts the cause? People will think-> what’s the point?
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09-08-2021, 08:57 AM #11666Banned
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so does this mean the vaccinated are to blame? I cant keep up with this shit anymore. Time to move off the grid..Fuckers up in places like Kiwalik AK aint dealing with this shit....
https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/...ed-infectivity
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09-08-2021, 09:01 AM #11667
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I remember “How to translate rambling internet posts 101” from my university days.
I also remember them teaching us how to communicate our points clearly.
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09-08-2021, 09:11 AM #11669
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09-08-2021, 09:11 AM #11670
Wow, it’s like most dumbasses like me interpreted Montucky’s posts the same way I did. Maybe there’s something to that. Maybe Austin is the smartest guy in the room?
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09-08-2021, 09:16 AM #11671
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09-08-2021, 09:51 AM #11673
What part of the fact that 28% of the world is fully vaccinated (remarkable achievement actually), leaving about 6 BILLION more hosts, are you not comprehending?
Yes. Lower odds. I get that. Doesn't negate the fact that another variant isn't going to come along to throw a wrench in all of our progress. Like the Moderna CEO is saying, like it or not, we're stuck with this thing. For the last freaking time, I AGREE that getting your shots is still one of the best ways to protect yourself! (funny how you all keep missing that component) Well, that and actually getting your freaking health under control, but I digress as that's a whole other can of worms that is somehow "controversial" these days too.
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09-08-2021, 09:51 AM #11674
How come?
you keep moving the goalposts, this time it's from "one case in the world means pandemic goes ape shit like a zombie movie" to this new "6 billion hosts". You're the one that's making weird statements and then moving the goalposts when you're shown to be wrong over and over and over. Stop it.
Yes, we, as in the people on planet Earth, need to get more people vaccinated to control this pandemic and maybe end it. this is one of those things that is a big fat "duh!" thing to to realize. And yes, people who are generally unhealthy seem to have issues with COVID more than others...again, duh! you're acting like people are disagreeing with these blatantly obvious statements, but they're not. again, stop it.Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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09-08-2021, 09:53 AM #11675
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