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  1. #19901
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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    For now the biggest obstacle to controlling the virus as we have controlled diseases like measles and chickenpox is not scientific but the pigheadedness of the populace.
    Have you been paying attention to the vaccination rates in Africa and Eastern European countries? Is Africa's 5% vaccination rate because they are all pigheads?


    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-tracker.html

    I'll fix it for ya

    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    For now the biggest obstacle to controlling the virus as we have controlled diseases like measles and chickenpox is not scientific but the pigheadedness of world leaders who have the means to vaccinate the world but only seem to care about their small corner of the globe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiJ View Post
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    Figure 2 from the abstract cited above - I believe this is important information and shows the importance of boosters -

    the right column of Chart C shows the benefit of the booster - I have been seeing numbers that show antibody response with the booster is 37% to 54% better than an initial vaccination series alone ;

    to those who figure omicron is 'not that bad' and are just going to take your chances with omicron,
    Please remember delta is still out there, And omicron is putting people in the hospital.


    Thank you for the link, jono --

    tj
    - drenchman, I think I understand your point, and I do not understand what your goal is -

    With booster rates under 25%, And waning immunity known since at least October, it is no surprise to me that omicron has spread - especially given it was quickly recognized to be 70% -80% More transmissible And immunity evasive.
    from my perspective, the idea that 99% of the positives serotyped are omicron, does not mean the threat of delta is less given the exponential spread of covid, by a variant that is characterized as "immunity evasive. "

    I will continue to promote vaccination - and any additional precautionary measures you choose -
    I stand by my claim,
    maintaining immunity through vaccination is important - That's my goal.

    Please get your booster -
    please Be well...

    tj
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  3. #19903
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    Well we just got back from the great state of AZ………Absolutely zero fucks given with regards to Covid. No masks, no SD, nada…….The Mags who posted upthread some iteration of “this is over” are right, in a way. The assholes that DGAF will continue to not give a fuck, no matter what. Oh and the day we arrived, AZ passed 25000 dead and counting…….
    What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
    -Ottime
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    AZ seven-day rolling average is more than 18,000 new cases of covid daily -

    remember what is required for the development of new variants ?

    new cases and a susceptible population.

    I hope I am not living in "fear"
    ( I don't think I am, but I am much more cautious than average.

    new cases nationwide - more than 700,000 daily ( seven day average also more than 700,000 ) )

    That's crazy.


    tj

  5. #19905
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiJ View Post
    - drenchman, I think I understand your point, and I do not understand what your goal is -
    My point is that Delta is still around, but barely. That's it.

    Yes, get boosted and vaccinated. If everyone would just do that, we'd be in a different situation at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkendrenchman View Post

    Yes, get boosted and vaccinated. If everyone would just do that, we'd be in a different situation at the moment.
    Why do you hate freedom?
    What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
    -Ottime
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    To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

    Quote Originally Posted by seano732 View Post
    Well we just got back from the great state of AZ………Absolutely zero fucks given with regards to Covid. No masks, no SD, nada…….The Mags who posted upthread some iteration of “this is over” are right, in a way. The assholes that DGAF will continue to not give a fuck, no matter what. Oh and the day we arrived, AZ passed 25000 dead and counting…….
    And nationally, we’re still having a 9/11 every few days. I will never understand why so many DGAF.

  8. #19908
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    The "If everybody was just jabbed and boosted" is full on DUMB!

    It is in other animals and they are not getting the jab. So just blame it on people who think different than you. Not to mention the jab does not prevent spread or getting it.

    Not sure why we would be mandated to get something that works so poorly.
    I'm cool with this, as long as you Kirkwood Bro Brah's stay away from Heavenly when 88 closes- TahoeBc

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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedShorts View Post
    The "If everybody was just jabbed and boosted" is full on DUMB!

    It is in other animals and they are not getting the jab. So just blame it on people who think different than you. Not to mention the jab does not prevent spread or getting it.

    Not sure why we would be mandated to get something that works so poorly.
    Buh bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedShorts View Post
    The "If everybody was just jabbed and boosted" is full on DUMB!

    It is in other animals and they are not getting the jab. So just blame it on people who think different than you. Not to mention the jab does not prevent spread or getting it.

    Not sure why we would be mandated to get something that works so poorly.
    Quoted for idiocy.
    What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
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    Omicron could have just as easily arisen in an unvaccinated population in the US. Wonder how the rebellion would feel in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedShorts View Post
    The "If everybody was just jabbed and boosted" is full on DUMB!

    It is in other animals and they are not getting the jab. So just blame it on people who think different than you. Not to mention the jab does not prevent spread or getting it.

    Not sure why we would be mandated to get something that works so poorly.
    These is nothing factual about the statement in bold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    Buh bye.
    Fuck. Where to begin with NS's post...just all around misinformed and this person is obviously an imbecile.

    I guess I'll just say I don't care if you think differently than me on a variety of social issues...but if you can't understand basic math, that 90%+ deaths and severe disease are in the unvaccinated, then what more is there really to discuss? it's not a matter of NS thinking differently, it's a matter of not having the intelligence to understand that a vaccine saves lives, reduces spread, and is one of the tools we need to use to get out of this pandemic. FFS
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    Fuck. Where to begin with NS's post..
    Where to start?? Right here, champ:

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    Or he’s a fucking troll……
    What we have here is an intelligence failure. You may be familiar with staring directly at that when shaving. .
    -Ottime
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Where to start?? Right here, champ:

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    LOL. I don't have anyone on ignore, but I will ignore him going forward...thanks Champ.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by seano732 View Post
    Well we just got back from the great state of AZ………Absolutely zero fucks given with regards to Covid. No masks, no SD, nada…….The Mags who posted upthread some iteration of “this is over” are right, in a way. The assholes that DGAF will continue to not give a fuck, no matter what. Oh and the day we arrived, AZ passed 25000 dead and counting…….
    i was in North Carolina for work and, at least in Charlotte, there was a lot of mask wearing and it seemed to be required for most establishments. Of course, outside of the city there were zero fucks given.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    We should just pretend that Masks work, you all would feel so much better. Then we can pretend the Vax actually stops the spread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    LOL. I don't have anyone on ignore
    I think I see your problem...

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    I had all of my feelings really badly hurt by all the twits on ignore...said nobody EVER
    I'm cool with this, as long as you Kirkwood Bro Brah's stay away from Heavenly when 88 closes- TahoeBc

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    Haha, sure. Nice tell. When I put you on ignore I own you. I can peek or not.
    A few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.

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    .gov free covid tests, it's live and functioning

    https://special.usps.com/testkits

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    I think I see your problem...
    Is there a difference between asking people to ignore and asking for a ban?

    Different strokes and all, just curious since ban talk usually gets full hand wringing treatment.

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...es-11642448736

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...teau-new-york/

    We are plateauing on the east coast. Shits over. Omnicron is ending this pandemic.

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    Putting people on ignore just because you're tired of hearing things you don't agree with is not all that different than hiding in echo chambers of like minded people. Same goes for banning. Ignore is a personal choice.. banning should only be reserved for legit threats and harassment that's over a clear line of civility.
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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