To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[jono]

I call my father who has been fighting cancer to see how he’s doing. He starts ranting about how Covid is no worse than the flu and he might have it now [didnt get the booster on not believing that the vax helps]. Rants that the deaths are no worse than an avg year of flu, other than in people with multiple comorbidities. 3/4 of fatalities I told him that this was false and that even excluding those it still was more than 10x the deaths of annual flu.

He than asserts that the vax and booster do NOTHING for reducing severity. i tell him go find numbers from any of the states that show the numbers vaxxed vs unvaxxed

I call his BS.

He hangs up on me.


Fucking Trumptarded moron.

Sorry to hear about your dad. All of the people I've known who died of this thing have been a little too attentive to the "it only kills...." conversation to recognize that they were in a high risk group. They could just as easily have chosen to believe their personal political reality and still gotten vaccinated based on that. But the louder voices got them confused.

I don't know if it helps, but it seems like the point is that no one who cares about him is going to have any less grief if he dies of covid+cancer or cancer+covid. It's the dead part that people care about. (Aspiring subhuman jizzmonkeys excepted.) Hoping for the best for your dad.

[highangle]

You should be banned for posting that

fify

[skaredshtles]

fify

Phish?

Speaking of ban-able offenses.

[Tri-Ungulate]

Psst. Science was quickly able to determine the structure of omicron, and of course the virus also uses this same RNA sequence to produce its folded spike trimer, inside the human cell.
We don't have an issue with proper protein folding based on size exclusion chromatography and retention of Mab binding for any of the spikes we have made- now including omicron.

But remember, in order for that mRNA vaccine to work, we actually need to form a Spike trimer on the outside of the cell the mRNA is delivered to, via transit the ER and golgi apparatus. Unfolded and misfolded proteins won't make it through to get placed on the cell surface and are targeted to degradation pathways.

Ie, this is a non-issue.

Thanks for that mofro. I did figure you guys woulda vetted the constructs, so I shouldn't have worried too much about that part, makes sense the proteasome complex eliminates misfolded products.

Remaining question is how much you guys worry about possible autoimmune off effects from epitopes generated by the modified constructs, or things like ADE. I know you guys take this into account, but how prevalent is it?

[NakedShorts]

Keep pretending the Zero Covid story. Morons.

[NakedShorts]

Oh boy those very much crazy Blue Devils are going to study it

[mcphee]

I love it when people post screenshots of headlines but no link to the article. It’s almost as if they believe we just read the headlines like they do.


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[skaredshtles]

I love it when people post screenshots of headlines

You spelled "morans" wrong.

[NakedShorts]

Don't shoot the messanger. You do know that the Pharma companies are the biggest sponsors of TV, print, and our Political woes?

[Mod Team]

If you want to discuss honestly, without misinformation and trolling, come back in a week and do so.

[CarlMega]

Don't shoot the messanger.

Seems legit.

[skaredshtles]

[seano732]

If you want to discuss honestly, without misinformation and trolling, come back in a week and do so.

Lol. Buh bye.

[summit]

Wow so many awesome actors there... back when SNL was tops.

[highangle]

Wow so many awesome actors there... back when SNL was tops.

That's about $6 billion in box office receipts right there...Prob twice that in DVD residuals!

[riser4]

Phish?

Speaking of ban-able offenses.

This. At the risk of being told to take a lap or smell a mule or something.

[Kinnikinnick]

This is gold. Thanks for the new sig. Multiple pages later, and no one cares, or even responds to your fake outrage.

After review, and the reason why this is a nothing burger, the only personal attack in our exchange is YOU calling me a pussy. Act like an internet bully, lose at your own game, cry, then try to get me kicked out?

The Mods won't save you, kid.

Don't play with fire, or you might get burnt.

You’re the one who ran away from answering my question to you and instead latched on to my post in here in a personal attack.

But yeah I wont try to get your sorry ass kicked out. Just asking the question why some personal attacks are allowed and others AOK

Seems to me that you were butthurt because you had no answer so instead vindictively attacked me in here.

But buzz off dipshit.

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[Buster Highmen]

You know, I was always leering of moderations years ago.

But as the l00ny misinformation creep metastasizes and accelerates across all media streams, I've changed my mind. There's just too many gullible or malignant people.

Bravo mods.

[Mod Team]

You’re the one who ran away from answering my question to you and instead latched on to my post in here in a personal attack.

But yeah I wont try to get your sorry ass kicked out. Just asking the question why some personal attacks are allowed and others AOK

Seems to me that you were butthurt because you had no answer so instead vindictively attacked me in here.

But buzz off dipshit.

generally speaking, personal attacks have always been ok. I can call you a fucking asshole/dipshit/whatever without moderation. Threats of violence are not allowed, but that's more than just a personal attack. And racist bs and the like crosses a line too. Can you share what kind of moderator action you are referencing? Misinformation and trolling in the covid threads is not allowed, and Asspen is skating on thin ice there, but he can call you names and not get in trouble, and vice versa.

Admittedly, we're not always 100% consistent, we're human. And we have non-TGR lives so sometimes someone can do something that deserves our attention, but it takes us a while to discuss it, and inertia or other shit or forgetfulness gets in the way and we don't act on something that might have been worthy of action. We do the best we can.

[bennymac]

Oh boy those very much crazy Blue Devils are going to study it

Where is the AIDS you promised me

[ex-powderbroker]

Where is the AIDS you promised me

funny you should ask but some servicemen are given an experimental HIV vaccine. i am not sure if it’s voluntary but the list of vaccines they are given is long, and that is just one of the experimental ones. And yet, I have never heard any protest about ‘experimental vaccines’ for any other illness. Weird, huh?

[skiskiskiskiski]

skiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiskiski be like:

I dont get it. The racist pos, farmer said he was vaxxed.

[east or bust]

I dont get it. The racist pos, farmer said he was vaxxed.

Put down some evidence of this or stfu, since you apparently can’t let it go in the last 3 pages (mobile). Enlighten us JONG

[Garbowski]

I dont get it. The racist pos, farmer said he was vaxxed.

The forcefield that vaccines are supposed to put around your body to prevent you from being sneezed on are NOT WORKING!!! All they seem to do is identify and fight infection once it enters your body. Worthless.

[Kinnikinnick]

generally speaking, personal attacks have always been ok. I can call you a fucking asshole/dipshit/whatever without moderation. Threats of violence are not allowed, but that's more than just a personal attack. And racist bs and the like crosses a line too. Can you share what kind of moderator action you are referencing? Misinformation and trolling in the covid threads is not allowed, and Asspen is skating on thin ice there, but he can call you names and not get in trouble, and vice versa.

Admittedly, we're not always 100% consistent, we're human. And we have non-TGR lives so sometimes someone can do something that deserves our attention, but it takes us a while to discuss it, and inertia or other shit or forgetfulness gets in the way and we don't act on something that might have been worthy of action. We do the best we can.

I wont clutter this topic up any more,

But what does “2) No personal attacks” mean?

There was no content in his post other than personal attack. In multiple posts.




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