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  1. #17851
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    You mean like trying to overthrow a fair, legislated, 62 fold court evaluated democratic election?
    More importantly, we're all losing sight of the totalitarian leaders wanting to rollout untraceable, uncontrollable digital currency for some reason. That's why the entire world is doing this - not practical mitigations during a collective health crisis. It's about da bitcoin. JFC... dummies with brain worms.

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    So...it's Hilary again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Do you think your call out makes any difference?

    The ones you are calling out get a woody from being called out.


    The rest of us were smart enough to either use the ignore function or just plain let it go because we understand that no one believes this shtick any more.

    Austin/Cono etc are not worth your time.

    Only on TGR, is the PRC, in a discussion on Covid, a protected entity. Wow.

    Back on topic, and based on this news, we will be getting jabbed for the rest of our lives.


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    Pretty sure Small Pox was a respiratory illness pretty much eradicated by vaccines. If anyone thinks vaccines haven't GREATLY reduced the risk and carnage of those threats listed you are beyond hope..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb0ldDad View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any of those have been eradicated. Maybe Diphtheria was close but then wasn't there a resurgence? And isn't that caused by bacteria?
    Also how many of those have existing prophylactics and/or treatments that are safe?
    Flu is the closest thing (respiratory virus) and probably won't ever be eradicated.
    And the moron doubles down on the dumbfuckery.

    god damn, fucking street people in India look at you morons and say what the fuck?

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    One infectious disease got eradicated 50 years ago.

    So youre saying covid is gonna be like every other infectious disease but one.

    Cool. Thanks.

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    Can anyone name one that vaccines are completely ineffective against that's wreaking havoc on society world wide?
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    So weve got the zero post troll spreading bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb0ldDad View Post
    Can anyone name a respiratory virus with known animal reservoirs that has been successfully eradicated?
    To date, only one infectious disease that affects humans has been eradicated.* In 1980, after decades of efforts by the World Health Organization, the World Health Assembly endorsed a statement declaring smallpox eradicated. Coordinated efforts rid the world of a disease that had once killed up to 35% of its victims and left others scarred or blind.

    https://www.historyofvaccines.org/co...se-eradication

    The point raised is stupid by virtue of it raising an issue for which there is an example of measure zero.

    Or maybe because virtually no diseases have ever been eradicated, we should just give up.

    Fucking stupid argument, fractional stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb0ldDad View Post
    Smallpox, like whooping cough, has no known animal reservoirs and that's a big reason why those vaccines are as effective as they are.
    I can see you are an expert on many things. My question for you is: Are you interested in buying some commemorative gold bullion coins? It's the currency totalitarian despots don't want you to know about! Own the libs with your purchase - PM Rontele for more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb0ldDad View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any of those have been eradicated. Maybe Diphtheria was close but then wasn't there a resurgence? And isn't that caused by bacteria?
    Also how many of those have existing prophylactics and/or treatments that are safe?
    Flu is the closest thing (respiratory virus) and probably won't ever be eradicated.
    Awesome. Consider this a pyrrhic victory for you. If total eradication is the only measure of success then you are probably correct. Most of us would consider vaccines to still be considered effective if they keep disease at bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb0ldDad View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any of those have been eradicated. Maybe Diphtheria was close but then wasn't there a resurgence? And isn't that caused by bacteria?
    Also how many of those have existing prophylactics and/or treatments that are safe?
    Flu is the closest thing (respiratory virus) and probably won't ever be eradicated.
    Who said eradication? Most vaccine preventable illnesses have not been eradicated. Only Smallpox. Potential for eradication is not the reason we have vaccines. But it is a good thing because then you don't need the vaccine anymore.

    Vaccines reduce transmission, morbidity, and mortality.
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    I think a lot of us would settle for Covid not killing a few million people per year worldwide.

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    did you go to sleep in a different century and just wake up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb0ldDad View Post

    The reason I bring this up is that I think a lot of people have unreasonable expectations of what a covid vax is capable of and might be used to push for mandates and/or vax passports.
    Yes, the stupid is strong.
    It doesn't help to hold up eradication as a rationale.

    I don't think anyone who's been paying attention to anything other than Fox would think so. Virtually every other news source and the government stressed simply trying to buffer the effect so the strain on the health system is spread out. I don't think there's been any other serious argument.

    Lots of the stupid though.
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    Dumb dad should be banned. Why isnt his post count going up? Hes only here to sow mistrust and spread misinformation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    Dumb dad should be banned. Why isn’t his post count going up? He’s only here to sow mistrust and spread misinformation.


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    Russian troll farm?
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    yeah (yes), I will give him credit for the (subtle) troll...

    drop in a couple of terms like 'eradicate' and 'prophylactic' , and then
    backpedal, claiming he wasn't claiming vaccination requires eradication...

    well, there have been half a dozen earlier who have claimed w/o similar effectiveness, ...


    as above,
    Reduced morbidity, Reduced mortality ( And reduced transmission ) --

    so the proverbial pot gets stirred...


    I do admire the restraint several of you show in responding to so many of these posts - Thank you. ! MUnicorn, LSL, Multi- ( you, too, Summit )


    with Respect. tj

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    I'm right around hour 48 post moderna booster. Hours 24-48 were brutal - incredibly uncomfortable. My armpit felt like I had a giant boil in it; even just moving my arm would leave me wincing in pain. Fever of 101, nausea, hotflashes and chills, just awful.

    Still, I'm glad I did it. 100% worthwhile.

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    Shit. Just hit hour 28. Car wreck status kicking in. Will report back in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml242 View Post
    did you go to sleep in a different century and just wake up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiJ View Post
    yeah (yes), I will give him credit for the (subtle) troll...
    tj
    Give him credit for further disinformation?
    No, full stop. No more giving any of this shit credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb0ldDad View Post
    ..........
    I saw what you did there. You are not as cute as you think. And a waste of time here.
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    Anyhoo. I listened to a nice update synopsis by the good doctor. We'll know something in a week to ten days. And he's not a fan of border closures. Counter productive security theater.

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/0WV...Ssi34fcdUcS4Bg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumb0ldDad View Post
    The reason I bring this up is that I think a lot of people have unreasonable expectations of what a covid vax is capable of and might be used to push for mandates and/or vax passports.
    I agree with you about the importance of the points you've brought up. Specifically, animal reservoirs (along with the total level of spread and contagiousness) basically guarantee that everyone will be exposed, probably multiple times.

    So we agree that you will be exposed. And we know that the vaccines reduce your chance of a severe result when that happens by about 10-100x and carry a smaller chance of any severe reaction to the shot (1 in 1000-10,000, pessimistically). Reducing your chance of infecting someone you care about comes along for free.

    So any rational person can see that the best decision for him or herself is to get a vaccine. A good one. A free one. And maybe add a mask sometimes because masks have even less downside than vaccines--and more potential upside, as evidenced by the phenomenal reduction in flu the last couple years (even with the animal reservoirs).

    Given that, the fact that some people are demonstrating their irrationality with respect to their own welfare is definitely going to be used by all the totalitarians of the world to create the infrastructure needed to control (and eventually oppress) the masses. All these demonstrably irrational people will be "protected" from themselves the same way we try to protect them from heroin, mental illness and heavy impacts with steering wheels. Where will it end? Seriously, think about that some more--if the tools get built to punish stupidity, we both know they'll be overused, right?

    Further, the CCP is already using our vaccine hesitancy (and fueling it, because it helps them) to gain an advantage on the world stage. Russia, too. They're doing everything they can to prevent us from protecting ourselves, including promoting everything from batshit crazy to simple division.

    Luckily, free thinking, rational Americans can solve all of those problems in one fell swoop: get a vaccine. Do it now, while no one is forcing you. Hurry, so that the infrastructure of oppression never gets built. Make it silly to worry about the last few percent of us by upping the numbers until passports and proof become a waste of time (like with MMR and other childhood vaccinations that we mostly take for granted). Make the uselessness so obvious that even George Soros has to admit this won't be the door to mind control he's been hoping for. Kill this thing off so our hospitals can function and the CCP stops enjoying the advantage they've gained by our anemic response to this pandemic.

    Or keep working for the enemy. Maybe spend some of Putin's money on a sweet set of day trekkers for the day after. Are you an American or an American't?
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    his claim was,
    ' name a (human) respiratory virus with animal reservior(s)(sic) that has been eradicated '


    my education was a long time ago, but I can't think of a human respiratory virus ( repeat. A virus ) that has been eradicated.

    If we are to believe that covid19 coronavirus is being isolated from white-tailed deer, I will accept the possibility that someone could be infected by a deer they killed, But
    I have not seen those studies
    ( cross-reactive to a virus of deer ?
    (Much) more likely than covid being zoonotic between white-tailed deer and people. )

    ( I will try to come back and link the article I found that says,

    "There is little information on covid19 and animals. "

    and

    "There is no known case of transmission from deer to people. " ND•TV.com

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/covi...canada-2634828

    also - https://www.kare11.com/article/news/...6-a46f6ebd1f5c )


    I try not to be provoked by some of this junk.
    in the midwest, it is deer hunting season...
    it is stunning, and no longer surprising, the things that are written with the conclusion,
    ' This merits further study. '

    ... perhaps 'sports(people)' will fund a study. or their family members will be afraid to eat venison.

    I did /// I went back and read about SARS and MERS ( after my time, I am sorry to say... )

    still., I would emphasize while it is believed by many that covid19 originated in an animal host, animal-to-human transmission ,,, ( I do not find it documented.
    to me, that's ( really) important. )

    so if someone wants to ask about a zoonotic respiratory viral diseases being eradicated. . . cats in Asia (2002). camels in the mideast in 2012.


    Unvaccinated people are a much more significant reservoir of covid than white-tailed deer.

    Good grief.
    ... good night. tj
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