To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[Buster Highmen]

I have Covid and chronic asthma. Not breathing well. Not terrible, but not normal either.

I'm fully vaxxed with Pfizer. Meds make my regular asthma symptoms close to non-existent. But when I'm sick my lungs tend to freak out a bit.

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++++ my heart goes out to you. ++++

[Buster Highmen]

Just because someone politicized a message doesn't mean it should be invalidated..

By now, anything associated with Bannon or Trump should be subject to dismissal.

They __are__ the assholes initially politicizing COVID and vaccines.

[Self Jupiter]

Hope you’re feeling better soon, ISBD ++vibes++

[MagnificentUnicorn]

That's fine you can all have your opinion and I won't call you a moron or a troll, make false equivalencies, etc.

When the co-inventor of mRNA vaccines was practically begging everyone in charge NOT to undertake a mass vaccination campaign, because it's the wrong tool/methodology for the job, it makes me wonder a bit. I'm trying to keep an open mind but like I said the numbers aren't looking good.
If this pandemic was instead due to variola major with a 30% death rate (not to mention a virus that is actually able to be eradicated via old-school attenuated virus vaccine) then I would likely have a different take on all this.
Like I've said before this whole situation sucks and we should be focusing on whether or not gain of function research is allowed, preserving people's right to decide if they want a vaccine or not, etc.
Best of health to all of you!

You’re right about the numbers not looking good

From today


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[skaredshtles]

You’re right about the numbers not looking good

From today

[MTT]

Seems appropriate for this thread

[bennymac]

You’re right about the numbers not looking good

From today


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Yeah but some old guy who did mRNA research in the last century says those vaccines are the real problem.

[tgapp]

I have Covid and chronic asthma. Not breathing well. Not terrible, but not normal either.

I'm fully vaxxed with Pfizer. Meds make my regular asthma symptoms close to non-existent. But when I'm sick my lungs tend to freak out a bit.

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Damn ISBD, I don't spend too much time in this thread (mostly because I have low tolerance for arguing with smooth brains) but I am so sorry to hear that. Hope you recover quickly. Sending vibes.

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[funkendrenchman]

This is getting ridiculous.

Man in Italy uses fake silicone arm to try to get vaccine certificate
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/03/europ...cli/index.html

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Seems appropriate for this thread

Yeah, unless most people get vaccinated we’re stuck in pandemic limbo forever.


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[KQ]

did you see that one of the US Omicron cases was fully vaxxed and boosted? Kinda a bummer. I know that the vax/boost help lessen the symptoms and I'd rather be vaxxed/boosted than not but still..... where's the light at the end of the tunnel?

[MagnificentUnicorn]

did you see that one of the US Omicron cases was fully vaxxed and boosted? Kinda a bummer. I know that the vax/boost help lessen the symptoms and I'd rather be vaxxed/boosted than not but still..... where's the light at the end of the tunnel?

How sick were they? Maybe it’s just me, but if people aren’t getting hospitalized and dying because they’re vaccinated that’s what we’re aiming for.


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[uglymoney]

I have Covid and chronic asthma. Not breathing well. Not terrible, but not normal either.

I'm fully vaxxed with Pfizer. Meds make my regular asthma symptoms close to non-existent. But when I'm sick my lungs tend to freak out a bit.

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My wife has a similar asthma.

Get well and keep us up to date.

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[KQ]

How sick were they? Maybe it’s just me, but if people aren’t getting hospitalized and dying because they’re vaccinated that’s what we’re aiming for.

News just said "mild" and I get that still wishing for a different result

[ticketchecker]

News just said "mild" and I get that still wishing for a different result

agreed

[teletech]

Here is an article from Jan 2021. Headline is “The corona virus could end up mild like the common cold”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7825868/
In time, virologists predict, the virus will become more benign, following an evolutionary pathway previously taken by four other human coronaviruses that today cause nothing more than the “common cold
So mild might be good.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Here is an article from Jan 2021. Headline is “The corona virus could end up mild like the common cold”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7825868/
In time, virologists predict, the virus will become more benign, following an evolutionary pathway previously taken by four other human coronaviruses that today cause nothing more than the “common cold
So mild might be good.

In the meantime, vaccines are protecting people from an unpredictable, debilitating and often deadly disease. Keeping it mild for the most part.


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[SeatownSlackey]

Ok


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[Cono Este]

We shouldn't have been dependent on China. We had our own front line pandemic threats intelligence gathering resources there until...


Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak

China had nothing to do with our being blindsided... Trump cut that shit without any other resource replacing it.. We should have been vigilant on our own about these threats..

Dude, this shit was coming no matter what. Covid, delta, now this shit after we’ve all been jabbed 3x.

Can we stop blaming eachother and address the root of the problem?

Ever here of divide of conquer? Probably invented by the Chinese. It apparently works.

You know, put the politics on hold before we all die?


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[frorider]

I have Covid and chronic asthma. Not breathing well. Not terrible, but not normal either.

I'm fully vaxxed with Pfizer. Meds make my regular asthma symptoms close to non-existent. But when I'm sick my lungs tend to freak out a bit.

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Also chiming in to say we wish you a good recovery.

[The SnowShow]

did you see that one of the US Omicron cases was fully vaxxed and boosted? Kinda a bummer. I know that the vax/boost help lessen the symptoms and I'd rather be vaxxed/boosted than not but still..... where's the light at the end of the tunnel?

Fuck.

Headed to NYC in two weeks and am now wondering if we should go. Fully vaxxed and boosters FWIW.

[dunfree]

Dude, this shit was coming no matter what. Covid, delta, now this shit after we’ve all been jabbed 3x.

Can we stop blaming eachother and address the root of the problem?

Ever here of divide of conquer? Probably invented by the Chinese. It apparently works.

You know, put the politics on hold before we all die?


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Utterly shameless.

[AK47bp]

I’m tapping out.

Got 3 Moderna’s in me and 2 shots in my kid. I’ll keep wearing my mask indoors when needed but I’m done giving a shit.




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[SumJongGuy]

Fuck.

Headed to NYC in two weeks and am now wondering if we should go. Fully vaxxed and boosters FWIW.

did you see that one of the US Omicron cases was fully vaxxed and boosted? Kinda a bummer. I know that the vax/boost help lessen the symptoms and I'd rather be vaxxed/boosted than not but still..... where's the light at the end of the tunnel?

On top of that, most of those folks were wearing masks. Either part of their costume or medical or both..

[bennymac]

Dude, this shit was coming no matter what. Covid, delta, now this shit after we’ve all been jabbed 3x.

Can we stop blaming eachother and address the root of the problem?

Ever here of divide of conquer? Probably invented by the Chinese. It apparently works.

You know, put the politics on hold before we all die?

Says the guy who a week ago started a thread titled Biden beats Trump in Covid killing

Concern troll is now Cant we all just get along troll.

Sorry for the polyass. Back to talking about vaccines vs omicron.