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  1. #17701
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    Only way to effectively restrict would be a 14 day MANDATORY supervised isolation/quarantine for EVERYONE COMING IN FROM EVERYWHERE regardless of citizenship/what their passport says. If this was Ebola that's what they'd be doing (I hope).
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    We have person to person transmission of the new VOC at a mega-mass gathering in the US. There is no need for full quarantine. There is no longer a utility in a travel ban. Just test people.

    I guarantee you it will show up in sequencing in several other US states in the next 48 hours.
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    Good thing kids got 2nd shots today. Now time to find a booster for myself...

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    Just another data point: Done with 24 hours post-Pfizer booster; some minor to moderate mental fog yesterday PM, slept well and felt entirely fine this morning. Yay, I crossed the line completing another lap of Covid avoidance.

    And if this coming Saturday's tempo run is more than a few seconds slower than my par, I'll be sure to let you know.

  5. #17705
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    Omicron in CO.
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Omicron in CO.
    And people call us a cultural wasteland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Omicron in CO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    We have person to person transmission of the new VOC at a mega-mass gathering in the US. There is no need for full quarantine. There is no longer a utility in a travel ban. Just test people.

    I guarantee you it will show up in sequencing in several other US states in the next 48 hours.
    They'll have to keep with the political theater for some time though, just because.

    Daughter had dose 2 on Monday. With all the uncertainty and her absolute insistence in getting the shot asap the decision was made not to extend the interval. Slightly cranky with stomach ache day 1 after completing school day with sore arm. New light stomach ache evening of day 2 and tired after school so we skipped indoor soccer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    besides my mom everyone else at any of the xmas stuff will be unvaccinated.
    Why would you go then?
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    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    What idea are you trying to convey here?
    My feeble memory was relaying what I read this morning in the daily YLE update, she's not into travel bans.

    "Nonetheless, it shouldn’t be a surprise that Omicron in the U.S. Once we identify a variant (even if it was very early like Omicron), it’s already spreading under our radar. We live in a very globalized and connected world.

    We actually saw this prediction with flight patterns. Dr. Dick Brockmann and his team did some interesting calculations based on the world aviation network from August 2021. They estimated the likelihood of a passenger from South Africa or Botswana traveling to another country and exiting the airport (i.e. not a layover). Based on their calculations, U.S. had the second highest probability of a traveler (3.355%) in the world behind Zimbabwe. This means that out of 1000 passengers from South Africa/Botswana, 34 were expected to land in the U.S. You’ll also notice that San Francisco airport made it in this figure too. There are a ton of limitations to this analysis, but interesting nonetheless."

  10. #17710
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    So apparently there's a new theory quickly gaining traction amongst some of the anti-vax crowd that omicron is really just a cover-up of vaccine side effects and deaths...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summer View Post
    So apparently there's a new theory quickly gaining traction amongst some of the anti-vax crowd that omicron is really just a cover-up of vaccine side effects and deaths...

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    What will be their story when they themselves contract omicron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennymac View Post
    What will be their story when they themselves contract omicron?
    idk, probably will be hard to decipher over the ventilator

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    Quote Originally Posted by Name Redacted View Post
    And people call us a cultural wasteland.
    exmidwest anime dorks? Nobody would guess it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennymac View Post
    What will be their story when they themselves contract omicron?
    That's super easy.

    "Sir, you have a case of the Omicron variant."

    Him:


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    Quote Originally Posted by bennymac View Post
    What will be their story when they themselves contract omicron?
    Obviously they'd need to diagnose some fake "omicron" cases to give the coverup more credence.

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    So if Omicron ends up being more transmissible but less virulent than Delta, and vaccines still work reasonably well against it, that would actually be a good thing, right? It would more or less replace Delta

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    So if Omicron ends up being more transmissible but less virulent than Delta, and vaccines still work reasonably well against it, that would actually be a good thing, right? It would more or less replace Delta
    ditto
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    In my barely 12th grade edumacation, that's how I would interpret it as well.

    And "if" that were the case you will not ever hear, Way to go Brandon!
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    That's super easy.

    "Sir, you have a case of the Omicron variant."

    Him:

    This is one of two last words before the intubation possibilityies. It's either this or "I'M SORRY... I WAS WRONG... GIVE ME THE VACCINE GRGL GRGL GRGLLLLLLllllllll!!!!!!!!!"
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Twenty-six hrs past Pfizer #3. Much different - much worse - reactions this time vs. P1&2.

    Sore arm and shoulder an order of magnitude greater than before.
    Sleep: Had trouble falling asleep +2 hrs after shot. Tossed and turned and woke up at +5 hrs. More tossing and turning then got a few hours solid sleep after about 6 am.

    At +16 hrs did some house maintenance/clean up, swept and bagged some leaves, looked at a leaky rain gutter.

    Got very sleepy about noon, 18 -20 hrs past shot. Slept for a few more hours, shoulder still very sore. Very little appetite, am trying to eat a baked potato now, appetite isn't there.

    The most concerning thing is chills and shakes, which started at +18 hrs after shot. Tip of both thumbs was cold and numb. Was still able to sleep for three hours. Upon waking up still have chills but shaking has reduced considerably. After I stare at this half-eaten baked potato a little longer I'm going to sleep hopefully for 12 or more hours.

    Anything sweet -- soda, fruit juice, chocolate -- it totally unappetizing.
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    In defence of the baked potato, they aren't especially appetising with or without a booster on-board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenboy View Post
    So if Omicron ends up being more transmissible but less virulent than Delta, and vaccines still work reasonably well against it, that would actually be a good thing, right? It would more or less replace Delta
    Depends what "less virulent" actually means and also it depends whether your mean "more transmissible" in terms of a higher R0 or if you mean immune evasive. The latter could be bad because then you reinfect people or get breakthrough... there's lots of bad things things COVID does that don't necessarily involve hospitalization, such as the constellation of things that make up Long COVID.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody Famous View Post
    Twenty-six hrs past Pfizer #3. Much different - much worse - reactions this time vs. P1&2.

    Sore arm and shoulder an order of magnitude greater than before.
    Sleep: Had trouble falling asleep +2 hrs after shot. Tossed and turned and woke up at +5 hrs. More tossing and turning then got a few hours solid sleep after about 6 am.

    At +16 hrs did some house maintenance/clean up, swept and bagged some leaves, looked at a leaky rain gutter.

    Got very sleepy about noon, 18 -20 hrs past shot. Slept for a few more hours, shoulder still very sore. Very little appetite, am trying to eat a baked potato now, appetite isn't there.

    The most concerning thing is chills and shakes, which started at +18 hrs after shot. Tip of both thumbs was cold and numb. Was still able to sleep for three hours. Upon waking up still have chills but shaking has reduced considerably. After I stare at this half-eaten baked potato a little longer I'm going to sleep hopefully for 12 or more hours.

    Anything sweet -- soda, fruit juice, chocolate -- it totally unappetizing.
    Sounds like you should get tested. You might have been coming down with it before the jab. The extremity numbness and loss of taste are pretty common symptoms of COVID. I've not heard of anyone experiencing those from the vaccine..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Depends what "less virulent" actually means and also it depends whether your mean "more transmissible" in terms of a higher R0 or if you mean immune evasive. The latter could be bad because then you reinfect people or get breakthrough... there's lots of bad things things COVID does that don't necessarily involve hospitalization, such as the constellation of things that make up Long COVID.
    Well shit. And yeah, I'm way more worried about long covid type stuff for myself than anything else.

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