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  1. #7001
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    Quote Originally Posted by k2skier112 View Post
    I was required to put on clean sheets (and clean cloths, duh) plus spread this shit, hibiclens, on me the night before

    PS- On-Q nerve blocks are awesome
    PPS-cant my pit germs travel to my knee?
    PPPS-armpit masks?!
    Hibiclens, chlorahexadine, is pretty standard home pre op prep these days.




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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    Hibiclens, chlorahexadine, is pretty standard home pre op prep these days.



    Yup. I love Hibiclens.

    Great for cat scratches and other superficial wounds. Also good if you get bumps from shaving just don't get it in your eye. Obviously I'm not using it on my face but once when I was applying it to my underarm I got a splash that ended up in my eye - not good!
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/26/u...mid=tw-nytimes

    VA now requiring vaccination. You go girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2-6 View Post
    Ugh, the most frustrating thing of this entire pandemic: the politicization of personal healthcare decisions and emergency public health management. Fuck 'em.
    The issue of personal rights vs societal benefit is a legitimate topic of discussion. It's long been accepted that people can be quarantined or otherwise restricted or required to undergo treatment for infectious diseases. That doesn't mean it will always be accepted. Unfortunately what we've been enduring for the last year plus is not a discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by k2skier112 View Post
    so are you advocating for unmasked surgeons?
    if so whats the benefit?
    this is a current topic for me as i recently had my supraspinatus & infraspinatus reattached
    the pre surgery cleaning and prep I was required to do was a little over the top, IMO, compared to what was requested of me 2 years ago for my ACL replacement
    More a question of what's the harm. Just like wearing a mask in a store. Wearing a mask in the OR doesn't bother anyone. Most of us would feel naked without it. It doesn't seem worth arguing over. The problem is that while there is no good evidence that they help there is no good evidence that they don't--so given the low cost and risk they are likely to be around for a while.

    Why gloves in the OR? Because William Halsted's scrub nurse (later his wife) couldn't tolerate the carbolic acid hand washing so she wore gloves before she washed. From there the practice spread.

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    Maybe we shouldn't flippantly use the word 'hoax' during a pandemic. Related: dying isn't the only potential negative outcome.

    "An Alabama mom who firmly believed the coronavirus was a hoax regrets not getting her family vaccinated after Covid killed her autistic son."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...Rly?li=BBnbfcL

    "The mom said that after leaving the hospital she could not drive or work until late May and remains on pulmonary therapy. Carpenter told the paper she is still suffering from fatigue, hair loss and 'covid brain.' "

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/26/u...mid=tw-nytimes

    VA now requiring vaccination. You go girl.
    More of this please. Why isn't my kid's high school doing a vax requirement? This is California. Schools around here have been set up to require MMR and other vaxes since forever. Cut the shit already and do what needs to be done; this isn't Texas or Florida or some other run-by-morons state. Offices: Get the knuckledraggers out of there; they WFH'ed for many months and can do it for some more months if they can't get on board with what they need to do. And let the rest of us breathe even easier. Restaurants and bars: Step it up, because if you don't and numbers come back up, your indoor dining's going to get shut down again (or if it doesn't, people will stay home again regardless).

    Oh, and here's Chris Christie, informing us that the snowflakes he speaks for are "willing to be vaccinated... [but don't because] they don’t want to be indoctrinated". Being non-stupid counts as indoctrination these days? I guess it's come to that.

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    The excuse for public schools in CA is supposedly due to the EUA. At least they’re requiring 100% masks at all public schools in CA. Some parent groups are pushing schools boards to go against the state requirement.

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    Ugh, I'm fine with wearing a mask for 10 minutes inside a Safeway, but kids in high school masking all day long? Make the non-vaxed kids wear the masks. Just my opinion; yeah, they already told us about the mask requirement, and yeah, not requiring vax is probably about the EUA.

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    Based on what’s known about the delta variant and the current prevalence in the Bay Area and many other places in the state, there will be many breakthrough cases of vaxed kids in the schools if vaxed kids are unmasked and spread through both some of the vaxed and the unvaxed student body.

    If I’m wrong about that^^^, somebody please correct me. I’d like to be wrong.

    Curious: Who does not have personal connection with a symptomatic breakthrough case? I learned of one this weekend, which may be problematic for a local important business. The friend/person (Pfizer) feels lucky that their younger and unvaxed kids have been gone all month. I was discussing this with another good friend today. That good friend has a friend that’s a symptomatic breakthrough case (Pfizer), who picked it up in Vegas (insert joke here), and is still have blood O2 issues several weeks after initial symptom onset. I believe that means that they’re suffering from long covid.

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    Having the vaccine is protective but it is not the silver bullet, magic pill that allows one to do whatever they want, esp with no-vaxtards all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobz View Post
    Ugh, I'm fine with wearing a mask for 10 minutes inside a Safeway, but kids in high school masking all day long? Make the non-vaxed kids wear the masks. Just my opinion; yeah, they already told us about the mask requirement, and yeah, not requiring vax is probably about the EUA.
    If my four year old and six year old can do it, you can too. I'd say stop being a child, but they've got one up on you here.
    That said - I think public schools should require vax or you have to learn remote (barring legit medical reasons etc.)

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    Sucks that we had the tools to stop this over the spring/summer and we failed. Now the kids will likely have to mask another school year.

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    There is somewhere around a zero percent chance of masks rules being enforced in schools here in rural Idaho this year. The right leaning parents will absolutely not be on board.

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    Hip replacement surgery was hibiclens for 10 days prior.

    Reviewing a possible med/mal case where a fellow got a knee replacement and ended up having a proximal knee amputation due to a raging infection.
    In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).

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    Quote Originally Posted by schuss View Post
    If my four year old and six year old can do it, you can too. I'd say stop being a child, but they've got one up on you here.
    That said - I think public schools should require vax or you have to learn remote (barring legit medical reasons etc.)
    I'm not in high school. I'll wear a mask where I have to. I'm just saying, let kids be kids, and they can if the unvaxxed are taken out of the room (or tested weekly and strictly masked). Take the unmasked unvaccinated out of the schools/ offices/ gyms/ restaurants/ etc., and the rather limited concern about symptomatic breakthrough infections pretty much vanishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    Sucks that we had the tools to stop this over the spring/summer and we failed. Now the kids will likely have to mask another school year.
    Fun fact, the UT legislature voted in a law to never allow mask mandates in schools going forward. Yes, this state is completely ass backwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzworthy View Post
    Fun fact, the UT legislature voted in a law to never allow mask mandates in schools going forward. Yes, this state is completely ass backwards.
    Iowa has that too. Obviously they hate 11 year olds.

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    Similar situation in Montana. Not looking forward to the inevitable controversy masks-in-school will create in our communities this fall. We're going to end up with some kids masked and some not. Great, let's turn the kids into warring political camps just like all the stupid adults in this country.

    Hope it works itself out somehow.

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    This country is truly off the rails. Have people always been this dumb? At this point it seems like people actually revel in their ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    This country is truly off the rails. Have people always been this dumb? At this point it seems like people actually revel in their ignorance.
    I think this country *has* always been this dumb. I think that it used to be the extent of the stupidity was hidden by the fact that these stupid people didn't have an *easy* outlet to expose their stupidity.

    I mean - back in the good ol' days you could write a letter to the editor, but they only generally would publish a handful of those, and at least *someone* with a modicum of education would actually make a decision on which ones to publish.

    Now anyone can publish their own stupid shit all over the place... seen by millions of people worldwide.

    And there are definitely people that revel in their ignorance - see MF if you'd like a real TRG example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobz View Post
    I'm not in high school. I'll wear a mask where I have to. I'm just saying, let kids be kids, and they can if the unvaxxed are taken out of the room (or tested weekly and strictly masked). Take the unmasked unvaccinated out of the schools/ offices/ gyms/ restaurants/ etc., and the rather limited concern about symptomatic breakthrough infections pretty much vanishes.
    Sure, good fucking luck getting republicans not to blow a gasket on their "FREEDOMS" to be a danger to public health and willfully be a disease vector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    I should probably watch this some time...

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    You've seriously never seen it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    You've seriously never seen it?
    Yes, sir. Ain't never seed dat one.

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