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  1. #6951
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    Not that he was ever anti mask or anti vax but pre covid ski bro the anesthetist told me he sat behind a screen in the OR monitoring the vitals/ reading a copy of the Guardian to stay awake and didnt wear a mask
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    Not that he was ever anti mask or anti vax but pre covid ski bro the anesthetist told me he sat behind a screen in the OR monitoring the vitals/ reading a copy of the Guardian to stay awake and didnt wear a mask
    But that's Canada. You guys also lube up before you hit the stables.
    It's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.

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    Local peds hospital is (anecdotally) seeing surge of new diabetes diagnoses in kids following covid infections. If true that would poke a massive hole on the whole ďkids do wellĒ with covid. That diagnosis means a lifetime of health issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    I could search and post more. But idgaf

    Ron Jeremy posted some shit. And there are plenty of studies. But we donít believe in science anymore unless itís the ďscienceĒ rammed down our throats by the media.

    Masks are great for surgeons not to sneeze on your wounds

    Masks are helpful for covid sneezers.

    You thinking a mask will filter a virus and save your life?
    Whatevs.
    You couldnít identify science if it hit you in the face.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Keystone is fucking lame. But, deadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick View Post
    continue to believe whatever ignorant bullshit their preselected media and political sources tell them
    Ugh, the most frustrating thing of this entire pandemic: the politicization of personal healthcare decisions and emergency public health management. Fuck 'em.
    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    how many will get a breakthrough case in their lifetime or even a year is higher and depends on prevalence.
    Shit, you're right I completely neglected to mention that. Thanks for clarifying that point.
    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    INCIDENCE (new cases), not PREVALENCE (total active cases). The two words aren't interchangeable.
    Oops. You're right. I definitely meant "incidence" not "prevalence"; I carelessly used the latter as a general synonym and overlooked the technical definition. Thanks for catching this, I fucked that up.
    Quote Originally Posted by digitaldeath View Post
    Hereís the dumbest person on tgr
    "What are you trying to say? I'm crazy? When I went to your ski schools, I went on your church trips, I went to your alpine race-training facilities? So how can you say I'm crazy?!"

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    The world is perfect. Appreciate the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    She trusts her instincts and her own research for now. When asked what would change her mind, she had one word: “Nothing.”
    Just for now, though. Maybe she's the answer to Fermi's paradox. Well, her and a few friends, obviously.
    A woman came up to me and said "I'd like to poison your mind
    with wrong ideas that appeal to you, though I am not unkind."

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    In our small metrowest town, grocery store, etc mask wearing has been pretty much gone for a few weeks now.

    We took the kids into Boston / Harbor Islands yesterday and I was honestly surprised how many masks I saw. I'd say maybe 50%, including outdoors on the moving ferry.

    It was encouraging.

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    You guys do realize that most employees at SNFs and long term care facilities have almost no education?


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    https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

    Hereís a much more relevant study and review of mask useage. The conclusion, masks work. Especially for source control.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    You guys do realize that most employees at SNFs and long term care facilities have almost no education?
    Yes, it's been discussed. The C part of CNA is interesting, though. It really shouldn't be possible to get a license or a certificate saying that you can do a job without demonstrating some knowledge of how to do it safely. Obviously the tests for these things are going to be extremely cursory. But if we can require food handlers to know when to wash their hands we can require CNAs to know that vaccines work. It's fundamental to the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

    Hereís a much more relevant study and review of mask useage. The conclusion, masks work. Especially for source control.


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    Itís a shame that TGR isnít included in the info & metrics section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Just for now, though. Maybe she's the answer to Fermi's paradox. Well, her and a few friends, obviously.
    Can we just recognize the importance of this woman's statement and others like her? They are all essentially saying that they don't believe in the FDA's process for guiding trials, reviewing data and approving or rejecting the rights for a company to market the product. I'd bet $100 that these people couldn't even tell you where the FDA is located, who leads the organization and how a clinical trial is conducted. Straight up hubris based on the belief that they're capable of making their own, informed decisions. Further, that the right to make ANY decision (informed or not) is theirs alone. While that's fine for cancer, diabetes, heart disease, blah, blah, blah, you're feelings, instincts, misguided analysis can get fucked during a pandemic. Pull their job. Prevent them from congregating in public. Isolate them socially.

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    Agreed.

    The carrot didn't work, it might be time for the stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tortoise View Post
    Agreed.

    The carrot didn't work, it might be time for the stick.
    We have the same Problem although not as pronounced. Here it's like 10% hardcore idiots and 15% hmmm I don't know/ lazy people. ( of the adult population)The 10 % can be sorted out by Darwin for all I care, but I'd like the 15% onboard because I don't want overflowing hospitals and closed schools again. Not that we had any hospital situation, but shutting down things costs money and I'm sick of paying for morons.
    It's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Yes, it's been discussed. The C part of CNA is interesting, though. It really shouldn't be possible to get a license or a certificate saying that you can do a job without demonstrating some knowledge of how to do it safely. Obviously the tests for these things are going to be extremely cursory. But if we can require food handlers to know when to wash their hands we can require CNAs to know that vaccines work. It's fundamental to the job.
    I'm actually taking that course this summer because I am curious about healthcare and want to get part time work at the hospital. Depending on what I find (like do I have the stomach for it) I might study to be an LPN or possibly even RN.

    Anyway of the 5 students in the class, 4 have been vaxed and the fifth is 5 months pregnant and waiting till she has her kid. The 2 nurses teaching it (LPN and RN) are both vaxed. They both worked at longterm care facilities through the pandemic. One of them told me the other day she had 5 residents get covid and they all recovered. But she said another half dozen went into noticeable decline when refused visitors and socialization, and they all died. Thought that was interesting.

    Anyway the CNA course is 75 hours culminating in a written test and demonstration of skills (5 randomly selected out of 25 that you practice). For an entry level job it's a lot of training IMO. Most of my classmates intend to go to nursing school and CNA offers flexible hours and pay in the $15-20 range so they can work while in school. CNAs are much needed and pay has been going up some.

    We've discussed vaxxing in the class. One woman in her 30s who just earned a masters in health info systems asked if any of us had ever stuck a magnet to where we got our shot. She said she did it and it sticks. A few days ago she said she did it to her visiting friend who was vaxed in January and it stuck. "But don't do it," she said. "It makes you feel like crap, like you have a hangover."

    Is this magnet shit for real? Anybody ever try it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    Protip: when you see anything associated with "Mercola" the safe assumption is it's all bullshit.
    the times had a story about him the other day, the guy is worth over 100M from hawking supplements and tanning beds by creating doubt and then profiting off it. Heís also lost several lawsuits with the feds, but isnít shut down.
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    [QUOTE=yeahman;6363167

    Is this magnet shit for real? Anybody ever try it?[/QUOTE

    I tried it. No it didn't stick. Please don't work in healthcare.
    A few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    I'm actually taking that course this summer because I am curious about healthcare and want to get part time work at the hospital. Depending on what I find (like do I have the stomach for it) I might study to be an LPN or possibly even RN.

    Anyway of the 5 students in the class, 4 have been vaxed and the fifth is 5 months pregnant and waiting till she has her kid. The 2 nurses teaching it (LPN and RN) are both vaxed. They both worked at longterm care facilities through the pandemic. One of them told me the other day she had 5 residents get covid and they all recovered. But she said another half dozen went into noticeable decline when refused visitors and socialization, and they all died. Thought that was interesting.

    Anyway the CNA course is 75 hours culminating in a written test and demonstration of skills (5 randomly selected out of 25 that you practice). For an entry level job it's a lot of training IMO. Most of my classmates intend to go to nursing school and CNA offers flexible hours and pay in the $15-20 range so they can work while in school. CNAs are much needed and pay has been going up some.

    We've discussed vaxxing in the class. One woman in her 30s who just earned a masters in health info systems asked if any of us had ever stuck a magnet to where we got our shot. She said she did it and it sticks. A few days ago she said she did it to her visiting friend who was vaxed in January and it stuck. "But don't do it," she said. "It makes you feel like crap, like you have a hangover."

    Is this magnet shit for real? Anybody ever try it?
    How many snipe would you say you've bagged over the years?

    Thanks for your perspective on the current state of things with CNAs. Where are you, if you don't mind saying? The need is clear--as is the need to pay. Peanuts get monkeys and all that. When my wife did a CNA cert (a long time ago in Oregon...for like a month or something) she made it sound a bit less involved than your description and I know there are LTC places in WA offering to train themselves, so of course it varies, but if there's a test there's a gate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    I'm actually taking that course this summer because I am curious about healthcare and want to get part time work at the hospital. Depending on what I find (like do I have the stomach for it) I might study to be an LPN or possibly even RN.

    Anyway of the 5 students in the class, 4 have been vaxed and the fifth is 5 months pregnant and waiting till she has her kid. The 2 nurses teaching it (LPN and RN) are both vaxed. They both worked at longterm care facilities through the pandemic. One of them told me the other day she had 5 residents get covid and they all recovered. But she said another half dozen went into noticeable decline when refused visitors and socialization, and they all died. Thought that was interesting.

    Anyway the CNA course is 75 hours culminating in a written test and demonstration of skills (5 randomly selected out of 25 that you practice). For an entry level job it's a lot of training IMO. Most of my classmates intend to go to nursing school and CNA offers flexible hours and pay in the $15-20 range so they can work while in school. CNAs are much needed and pay has been going up some.

    We've discussed vaxxing in the class. One woman in her 30s who just earned a masters in health info systems asked if any of us had ever stuck a magnet to where we got our shot. She said she did it and it sticks. A few days ago she said she did it to her visiting friend who was vaxed in January and it stuck. "But don't do it," she said. "It makes you feel like crap, like you have a hangover."

    Is this magnet shit for real? Anybody ever try it?
    You might reconsider, CNA work is the worst in healthcare. Worse than housekeeping. If you want RNs to dump all the shit work in your lap then itís the right job for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post

    Is this magnet shit for real? Anybody ever try it?
    FFS people are dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    You might reconsider, CNA work is the worst in healthcare. Worse than housekeeping. If you want RNs to dump all the shit work in your lap then itís the right job for you.


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    whats your position in healthcare

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    Quote Originally Posted by k2skier112 View Post
    whats your position in healthcare
    Bent over?
    ďIím a subhuman jizz monkeyĒ

    Thx mods. Itís an awesome signature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    Bent over?
    Making useless plastic see through intubation boxes?
    Last edited by bennymac; 07-25-2021 at 01:05 PM.

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    Buddy takes 100 covid tests for love

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...love-1.6113813
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