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07-21-2021, 07:25 AM #6726
You are being wildly optimistic if you think 1/3 of the population have natural immunity. Only in the worst hit areas is it that high.
The Wuhan Wild Type had a much lower R0. The math could work for herd immunity with that. Not with Delta and worse...
You won't ever hit herd immunity with a R0 of ~7 until you have true immunity of 85-90% or more for the entire population, and there would still be clusters due to uneven distribution of immunity in the population. You will never achieve that with a Ve of 88% and only 75% of the population eligible for vaccination and 15-50% of them unwilling.
The Pandemic ends when the prevalence vs consequences decrease to the levels of a bad seasonal influenza, and then we will say COVID is an endemic (seasonal respiratory virus) instead of pandemic illness.Last edited by Summit; 07-21-2021 at 08:01 AM.
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07-21-2021, 07:47 AM #6727
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To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues
Great (long) thread on booster shots, breakthrough cases and efficacy against variants: https://twitter.com/celinegounder/st...223843333?s=21
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07-21-2021, 08:16 AM #6728
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07-21-2021, 08:18 AM #6729"We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch
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07-21-2021, 08:20 AM #6730
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07-21-2021, 08:37 AM #6731
Just thinking of things like the crowds recently at sporting events makes me think the vaccines are working pretty well. If we took a similar approach last summer I suspect the spike in cases would have been much greater, for example. I know you weren't saying last summer is the same as this summer but wanted to point out that it's a much different situation these days.
Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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07-21-2021, 08:44 AM #6732
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07-21-2021, 08:47 AM #6733
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07-21-2021, 09:39 AM #6734
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07-21-2021, 09:51 AM #6735Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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07-21-2021, 09:54 AM #6736
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07-21-2021, 09:56 AM #6737
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07-21-2021, 09:58 AM #6738
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07-21-2021, 09:58 AM #6739
So, does everyone who could get a vax, chooses not to, then dies of Covid automatically get a spot in the Darwin hall of fame?
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07-21-2021, 10:00 AM #6740
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07-21-2021, 10:50 AM #6741
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07-21-2021, 10:57 AM #6742
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07-21-2021, 12:40 PM #6743
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07-21-2021, 01:19 PM #6744
They should put microchips in the vaccine that broadcast a small signal that can be read by others with a microchip, and get an either red or green light in the implanted visual aid to appear above the head of the people in field of view. Green? Good to fuck, red stay away.
sent from Utah.sigless.
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07-21-2021, 01:42 PM #6745
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mix the vax in with the tattoo ink
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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07-21-2021, 02:53 PM #6746
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07-21-2021, 03:45 PM #6747
I agree. The CDC is generally a well-respected scientific organization, but their duty is to contain this disease, not to be a clearing house for virus research.
And the fuck is with all this mask and CDC heated debating the past 2 or 3 pages? When the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines came out, CDC recommended the vaccinated continue to wear masks. Because of this, they got a lot of heat for deincentivizing vaccination. Then they changed their guidelines to permit the vaccinated to go maskless in nearly all situations. I think this was the right call, and probably what they should've gone with once the data for the mRNA vaccines was released, because of how awesome the vaccines are. They provide so much greater protection to the individual compared to masking and social distancing, and are the only way this pandemic ends at a public health level. Although, masking indoors still makes sense for those with comorbidities, even if vaccinated; although it's probably belt and suspenders.
Now more than ever before, "my mask is to protect you (unvaxed)" is the truth.Last edited by CS2-6; 07-21-2021 at 07:21 PM.
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07-21-2021, 03:54 PM #6748
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