To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[bodywhomper]

... but every injury or knock I've had in the last 20 years is hurting.

That sums up my wife’s Pfizer #2 experience.

[My Pet Powder Goat]

Got my moderna #1 on saturday. No side effects beyond being a bit tired today and a sore arm that got much worse after some heavy lifting but subsided within a couple hours.

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[subtle plague]

Pentecost is Greek for Shavuos, the Hebrew spring harvest festival (I learned Ashkenazi pronunciation and I'm sticking with it). The Christians stole the word from us. (And why is there a Greek word for a Jewish holiday you ask? Alexander the Great.)



As I understand it the mRNA stays in the mother's cells and is destroyed by enzymes if any leaks out. Also, mRNA is destroyed within the cell once it has made a protein. So mRNA is not passed from mother to fetus. I believe the nanoparticles containing the mRNA in the vaccine are too big to cross the placenta.
https://theconversation.com/what-is-...accines-158511

I came across this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5545769/
Ignore the contents, look at the date--2017. This is not rushed technology. It is years-old technology waiting for the right disease to come along. And of course people have been working on coronavirus vaccines since SARS 18 years ago. Boasting about the speed of the vaccine development was a major PR mistake--they should have emphasized the years of work that went into the mRNA vaccines.

So I Googled it and it turns out it's 7 weeks after Easter because Jesus came back to his followers (again?) In spirit (with spirits would probably have made them happier ).

Consider me agonistically amused.

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[highangle]

Man that sounds rough.

Nothing that bad but every injury or knock I've had in the last 20 years is hurting.

A little congested and sensitive to light... that might just be because it seems like the first really bright day here in six months.

Any loose teeth or swollen gums? Might I recommend taking the inspissated juice of limes with your daily ration of grog?

[old goat]

So I Googled it and it turns out it's 7 weeks after Easter because Jesus came back to his followers (again?) In spirit (with spirits would probably have made them happier ).

Consider me agonistically amused.

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Agonistically or agnostically or both?

[east or bust]

For those with a sore arm after the first shot, I was assuming most of ya'll were talking along the lines of a tetanus shot. In the past, people have always hyped those up to be worse than other shots but I've never had a sore arm from a tetanus shot.

The day after Moderna #1 felt like I got kicked in the shoulder by a horse. Could barely move my arm for about a 16hr period.

[bobz]

Dull headache for most of a day after Moderna #1. Good thing I already banked it in as a sleep in and fart around plus random chores day! Wasn't too bad, and a day later (today) I did a 5-mile run nicely on pace with before the vax. Sorry to hear a few people had particularly bad experiences. #2 still to come.

[senior researcher]

Day 9 after the, Dolly PARTON vaccine. Now O. K. In 1st hour, strawberry rash between the eyes,
clear steady nose run. Passed out. THEN FELT *any* and all , -------weakness, lungs and sinus,- infections clearing, -inflammation in my body, torn, ligaments ,muscles----- to 11 ------. Ill. ----shingles? Hat and coat indoors, for 2 days. Ear herpes,back shingles. Swollen hard pallet !
55, blood thinners, walking pustule. Forever, Yeast infection , candida . dehydrated ,,booze hound. I will hydrate before shot #2 50 yard fall on skis today. Beater. If you have a Canadian sister, I would like to meet her.

[bennymac]

RIP senior researcher. Your loss will not be in vain.

[senior researcher]

Your Moms taint was bumpy.

[nutmegchoi]

My arm’s okay but over night other symptoms showed up.
Symptoms I had when I had COVID in 1/5 scale.
Headaches, body aches, chills, fever, stomach aches and diarrhea so far.
Going to take some Tylenol and go to work.
But it’s gonna be extra fun Monday.

Not looking forward 2nd shot.

[skifishbum]

My arm’s okay but over night other symptoms showed up.
Symptoms I had when I had COVID in 1/5 scale.
Headaches, body aches, chills, fever, stomach aches and diarrhea so far.
Going to take some Tylenol and go to work.
But it’s gonna be extra fun Monday.

Not looking forward 2nd shot.

4wif
ist shot (phizer)kicked my ass 36 hours after
second did nothing and i felt great
the pneumonia vac sucked and made that arm painful and borderline unusable for a couple days

[subtle plague]

Agonistically or agnostically or both?

Shit. Autocorrect (or early morning?). Agnostically. I believe in atheism for pussies who don't want to forsake all chances on eternal harp concerts on a cloud.

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Edit:
Still no side effects except priapism.

[schuss]

Got first pfizer shot saturday, then spent the day doing yard work/garage clean out with the wife. Hell of a lot more sore from that than the shot.

[ripvw]

Outside of a sore shoulder and a little fatigue, no big ill effects from Moderna #1 a few weeks ago. Had number 2 yesterday afternoon and woke up at 2am with a mild fever and chills. Dropped a couple of Tylenol and just feel low grade shitty this morning. Probably skip the mountain bike ride today, and reevaluate tomorrow.

[concretejungle]

Under fifteen minutes from entering the hospital to getting my first Pfizer shot. Thanks Bozeman Health.


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[MontuckyFried]

China admits its vaccines aren't very good
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...accines-480802

Chinese vaccines “don’t have very high protection rates,” said the director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, at a conference Saturday in the southwestern city of Chengdu.

Beijing has distributed hundreds of millions of doses abroad while trying to promote doubt about the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine made using the previously experimental messenger RNA, or mRNA, process.

Interesting. I would've thought they'd have a leg up on the competition.

[KQ]

For those with a sore arm after the first shot, I was assuming most of ya'll were talking along the lines of a tetanus shot. In the past, people have always hyped those up to be worse than other shots but I've never had a sore arm from a tetanus shot.

The day after Moderna #1 felt like I got kicked in the shoulder by a horse. Could barely move my arm for about a 16hr period.

Tetanus shot had me crying in bed for almost 48 hrs.

Flu shot causes days of discomfort.

1st Covid jab (Pfizer)...... nothing.

[My Pet Powder Goat]

China admits its vaccines aren't very good
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...accines-480802

Interesting. I would've thought they'd have a leg up on the competition.

Why would you think that? Spell it out for us...

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[subtle plague]

Why would you think that? Spell it out for us...

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Because! Chyna?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

it's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.

[My Pet Powder Goat]

it's a war of the mind and we're shooting blanks.

FIFY. (But ya)

I have a feeling it's more conspiratorial for Austin.


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[MontuckyFried]

Why would you think that? Spell it out for us...

Umm... Let's see here. Location of virus origin. Biolab studying coronaviruses there at ground zero in Wuhan where they at least knew of this particular virus's existence before we did. What else do you want? All I'm saying is that they literally had several months of a head start on us, and we should be giving companies like Pfizer and Moderna credit where credit's due.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Umm... Let's see here. Location of virus origin. Biolab studying coronaviruses there at ground zero in Wuhan where they at least knew of this particular virus's existence before we did. What else do you want? All I'm saying is that they literally had several months of a head start on us, and we should be giving companies like Pfizer and Moderna credit where credit's due.

Define several. I don’t think 3-4 months is several. We even knew sooner than that. What’s your point again?


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[Ted Striker]

Agonistically or agnostically or both?

A true agnostic wouldn't care.

[subtle plague]

A true agnostic wouldn't care.

Yes. Yes, he would. deep down in his heart. Agnosticism is the poor man's atheism that leaves a backdoor open.