Do you ever make a mistake? Reunite me with my 202 Lotus 138s

[TAFKALVS]

I love the pescado and hope to add a pair back to quiver with tech bindings soon.

I just threw down on a new touring setup and was having dreams of lotus and la nina and feel grabbing pescados in the future will be fairly easy and getting touring gear for the wife and have 2 pairs of 118mm underfoot pow skis plus the loti seemed excessive all mounted alpine with the pescado in the mix as well. So cash flow and practicality dictated a slight adjustment.

A pescado with vipecs and nice mohair skin seems like an ultimate deep snow touring rig... on the buy list.

But yeah I have fucking issues.

I will say one ski that has remained a constant through all of this whoredom is the LP105.

[TAFKALVS]

It'll never happen. His quiver ever shifts.

+1 assrapeyplank

[TAFKALVS]

No dig intended - big fan of TAFKNA. His enthusiasm got me to buy a try at team Pescado. Probably a pretty good powder 1, 2 punch in your area.

99% you'll dig em at Stevens, especially in tight woods between tye and big chief.

I'm in a quandary about what I'll grab on a pow day, might end up segmenting the quiver by 2" snow depth increments divided by visibility multiplied by brofactor subtracting tree tightness and factoring for desire to send (dts factor), with an additional variable of likelihood of being tracked out within (x) time scale due to socialmediahype (y2) finally multipling the result by probability of exiting the gate.

Mfree108
Mfree 118
Bodacious
Lotus 138

Let's be honest, I'll probably just grab the lotus because why not.

[Kopi_Red]

A pescado with vipecs and nice mohair skin seems like an ultimate deep snow touring rig... on the buy list.

I haven't ridden on the pescado's yet but whenever they cross my mind this is the spot where I could see them fitting in my quiver.

But yeah I have fucking issues.

Don't we all...

[TAFKALVS]

I haven't ridden on the pescado's yet but whenever they cross my mind this is the spot where I could see them fitting in my quiver.

Yes, this. Such a great tool for wild snow and really light. Was tempted to do that with my current pair but justcuz seemed to be in need.

Don't we all...

I tried to think of all the skis I've bought/sold/traded in the last 10 years.

1.)I couldn't remember all of them
2.)I think it's upwards of 50 pairs (or more)

Yeah I need an intervention, fuck.

[Olympus]

Don't ever.

There were 40 pair of the black bamboo sidewall versions ever made (and IMO the black ones were the crown jewel of the 202 138s).
The only more rare 200+ dps lotus were the 3 pair of blue 202 Lotus 138's made in the summer of 2010 (rocker 3.1).
Piers got a pair, no idea who ended up with the other 2 pairs.

I gave that pair to Dan (and another pair to Flylow Greg) NIP to use it in their tradeshow booth for OR&SIA and then to ski after the shows.
Dan put (I think) jester demos on there (which I may have given him). A little foggy the details now.
Greg tele'd his like a man.

I have a pair of the Black bamboo sidewall version... my single favorite deep pow ski... its a bullet to say the least.

My kids will inherite these... if they are good.

Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk

[Buster Highmen]

So many people rave about the the black bamboo sidewalled loti, why did they change them?

I mean I get switching to more durable sidewalls, but the form of that ski is so sweet.

[Norseman]

So many people rave about the the black bamboo sidewalled loti, why did they change them?

I mean I get switching to more durable sidewalls, but the form of that ski is so sweet.

In politely challenging the statement in your signature, how many skis have you tried since getting the Lotii 15 years ago? Just curious

FWIW, I'm a fan of the 120 class pintail shape.

[Marshal Olson]

So many people rave about the the black bamboo sidewalled loti, why did they change them?

I mean I get switching to more durable sidewalls, but the form of that ski is so sweet.

Man. I feel you. Though there may be some selection bias in “so many people”.

Core Shot put it really well above. For some, the journey outweighs the destination. Or, for true innovators, it can be hard to know when you have arrived until you have already departed - as you are always looking for the next thing.

i really hope DPS realizes that their most valuable options for the small batch powderworks skis already exist, and innovation is not needed nor wanted.

2005 190 Lotus 120
2007 200 Lotus 120
2007 202 Lotus 138
2010 184/190 Lotus 120 Hybrid
2011 192 Lotus 138
2012 192 RPC
2013 185/191 w105 T2

Makes me want to start a little off-shoot brand just with those skis. I’d add some monster 88/98/108 clones in there too, haha

[justcuz]

Man. I feel you. Though there may be some selection bias in “so many people”.

Core Shot put it really well above. For some, the journey outweighs the destination. Or, for true innovators, it can be hard to know when you have arrived until you have already departed - as you are always looking for the next thing.

i really hope DPS realizes that their most valuable options for the small batch powderworks skis already exist, and innovation is not needed nor wanted.

2005 190 Lotus 120
2007 200 Lotus 120
2007 202 Lotus 138
2010 184/190 Lotus 120 Hybrid
2011 192 Lotus 138
2012 192 RPC
2013 185/191 w105 T2

Makes me want to start a little off-shoot brand just with those skis. I’d add some monster 88/98/108 clones in there too, haha

I’ll buy in. Only if the 88s make the cut . Put literally over 300 ski days on some liquid metal 88s.


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

[Kopi_Red]

Yes, this. Such a great tool for wild snow and really light. Was tempted to do that with my current pair but justcuz seemed to be in need.

I tried to think of all the skis I've bought/sold/traded in the last 10 years.

1.)I couldn't remember all of them
2.)I think it's upwards of 50 pairs (or more)

Yeah I need an intervention, fuck.

I picked up a pair of Sakana's this off season as a fun/playful ski. Hopefully it'll prove to be a fun addition to the quiver.

And know that you're not the only one with a problem. So many skis have passed through my hands over the past decade. Hell, I've owned 4 different Praxis Protests and I currently have 3 different LP 105's in the basement...

[mn_teleswede]

Core Shot put it really well above. For some, the journey outweighs the destination. Or, for true innovators, it can be hard to know when you have arrived until you have already departed - as you are always

This^


Sent from my iPad using TGR Forums

[skibrd]

2005 190 Lotus 120
2007 200 Lotus 120
2007 202 Lotus 138
2010 184/190 Lotus 120 Hybrid
2011 192 Lotus 138
2012 192 RPC
2013 185/191 w105 T2

I’d be in for one of these. 202 Lotus 138s with a Spoon tip and tail would be tits.

Could you also make a run of 194 Kaestle MX 98s? They are becoming increasingly rare to find.


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

[Buster Highmen]

2005 190, 200 Lotus 120
2007 200 Lotus 120
2007 202 Lotus 138
2010 184/190 Lotus 120 Hybrid
2011 192 Lotus 138
2012 192 RPC
2013 185/191 w105 T2

Makes me want to start a little off-shoot brand just with those skis. I’d add some monster 88/98/108 clones in there too, haha

FIFY, and I grant the selective bias, but so many great skiers I know have raved up those early Loti and lamented their scarcity.

[SkiLyft]

I’m happy this became a roast on @TAFKALVS. Much luv broseph!


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

[Marshal Olson]

FIFY, and I grant the selective bias, but so many great skiers I know have raved up those early Loti and lamented their scarcity.

Hey B... wait, was there a 200cm L120 in the first year? You would know better than me. If so, thanks for the head up!

but I mean, I totally hear you. I really truly miss the OG first few runs of L120 (and L138) too.

[Doremite]

2010 184cm L120 Hybrids have been on my radar for years. Sorta given up. My white whale.

[Buster Highmen]

Hey B... wait, was there a 200cm L120 in the first year? You would know better than me. If so, thanks for the head up!

but I mean, I totally hear you. I really truly miss the OG first few runs of L120 (and L138) too.

I think I got mine in 2006.

[GBB]

essentially it got COVID’d.
I am going to harass them again after New Years for a summer run.

Yes! I'm not man enough for the two hundies but would very much welcome a pair of the 190 mini sticks.

[shroom]

the black 202 138s auvgeek horded way back when we’re definitely the most ski i have been on

but glorious where worthy


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

[TAFKALVS]

the black 202 138s auvgeek horded way back when we’re definitely the most ski i have been on

but glorious where worthy


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

I was half hoping he'd chime in on this one.

[mc_roon]

great thread - ive got my 192 gen 1 bamboo 138s still going strong with a brand new undrilled backup pair waiting in the rafters if they ever die. Got the other 'marshal special' 192 spoon 150s (wailer RPC topsheets) last season to spice it up a bit too. You will take these skis from my cold, dead, hands.

Never been on the 202 version, but would imagine in the right conditions and terrain there being nothing better.

[Buster Highmen]

great thread - ive got my 192 gen 1 bamboo 138s still going strong with a brand new undrilled backup pair waiting in the rafters if they ever die. Got the other 'marshal special' 192 spoon 150s (wailer RPC topsheets) last season to spice it up a bit too. You will take these skis from my cold, dead, hands.

Never been on the 202 version, but would imagine in the right conditions and terrain there being nothing better.

I advise you not to publish your address.

[Marshal Olson]

great thread - ive got my 192 gen 1 bamboo 138s still going strong with a brand new undrilled backup pair waiting in the rafters if they ever die. Got the other 'marshal special' 192 spoon 150s (wailer RPC topsheets) last season to spice it up a bit too. You will take these skis from my cold, dead, hands.

Never been on the 202 version, but would imagine in the right conditions and terrain there being nothing better.

oh dude, hells yes!
Glad you have those skis.

you may not ski spoons ever day, or all day, but on the days you do...

[dub2]

Anyone know about differences in the rocker profiles over the years? Found a pair of blue topsheet 192s, rocker 3.2 profile and flex 2 that I might have to pull the trigger on...