Steamboat Powdercats can kindly go fuck themselves

[m2711c]

those all are pretty old... the hitchhikers guide is probably the only one still relevant.











do you know where your towel is?

[Cokey McBlowjob]

I'm not sure that "Go Fuck Themselves" is the appropriate way of opining constructively.

I'm not sure that there is a more raging pseudo intellectual on here than you, but hey, life takes all types

[abraham]

good lord man, laws are important and all but they don't connect to lots of other important stuff, like human decency. If your motto is to follow laws, and you always follow laws, that doesn't make you a good human. I mean, it may be a part of being good but FFS, it shouldn't be your motto.

I feel like that would be covered in some sort of class in law school.

That's what I'm talking about! I think we are in a similar camp. As someone with BS in earth science I would nerd out on maps hardcore. MSU library used to have big topo sales that were awesome.

I got no dog in this fight but inlaws have a place in steamboat and have spent some time there. A bit too coloradbro for my tastes but that's why I live somewhere else I guess.

I struggle with marking up maps and books but I like both. At some point I should mark some of the routes I've done but I kind of like having maps without a trace of me on them.

[Conundrum]

At some point I should mark some of the routes I've done but I kind of like having maps without a trace of me on them.

They're maps, not nudey magazines. Just kidding, mostly.

[altasnob]

The guide appears to drop his inside hand and ski a bit back seat: https://www.steamboatpowdercats.com/...21/bassomatic/

Oh, come on, everyone drops their inside hand. Just look at my avatar. Elitist!

[abraham]

They're maps, not nudey magazines. Just kidding, mostly.

Ha!
Missed that....

[altasnob]

If backcountry skiing guidebooks got things too crowded you should tick off a few routes in this book:

[SoVT Joey]

.....are you telling me that you have to pay to go to the dorset quarries now?!? that is the absolute suck of the suck. i spent most of my teenage summer days there jumping off buzzards point and "kissing the rock" blazing all day every day.......sad state of affairs if so...... sorry for thread drift

thanx dibs

Ya bro. 5 bucks a person. 10 a car. We are harvesting the flatlanders for every penny they are worth. I wouldn’t jump in that water now if you payed me either. Fucking nasty. Oh and the cops patrol the shit out of it. No booze no weed. No snookie.


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[TBS]

I'm not sure that there is a more raging pseudo intellectual on here than you, but hey, life takes all types

But there is
You

[~mikey b]

anyone want these?

[hawkgt]

^^^ if serious, throw them in with the shovel, good to put in camper

[~mikey b]

yeah buddy

[Dantheman]

If backcountry skiing guidebooks got things too crowded you should tick off a few routes in this book:

Heh, I was wondering if Kelsey would come up in this thread. Say what you will about that guy, but he self-publishes everything, is probably still driving and camping out of his '81 VW Rabbit, and is insanely fit.

[muted]

Heh, I was wondering if Kelsey would come up in this thread. Say what you will about that guy, but he self-publishes everything, is probably still driving and camping out of his '81 VW Rabbit, and is insanely fit.

"Officials at Utah's Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument will no longer sell Kelsey's books. His enthusiastic write-up on the Black Box has helped popularize the route; some 70 search-and-rescues have taken place in the past two decades.

"Michael Kelsey makes things look easy," says Barbara Sharrow, assistant manager for visitors at Escalante. "We find that his books mislead the public." At least one early reviewer of the Slot Canyon Guide sees potential potholes. Steve Brezovec, 30, a canyoneer who read a draft of the book for Kelsey, was shocked that it included a little-known Escalante slot that's regularly choked with impassable 20-foot logjams. If a group enters it in the wrong conditions, Brezovec says, "they'll probably die."

[MTslackcountry]

The guide appears to drop his inside hand and ski a bit back seat: https://www.steamboatpowdercats.com/...21/bassomatic/

Sorry, I have nothing else to offer.

Fuck this Bass guy and yes he looks like a fucking gaper in that photo!

[skifishbum]

All's I knows is if the not so straight shooters book never appeared in the shop
I'd be able to zipper line with yeti
And on sumbodys 10% list

[DBdude]

Some of the runs that would be published are extremely dangerous. The patience that the guides use to stay off the slopes until they are ready can not be described in a guidebook. You bet your ass they are doing avy work...just not mitigation.

I've used the publishers other products in CB etc and you can get seriously fucked on some of the lines of you deviate slightly.

Buff Pass is no different. We have rescued a few people already and I would rather it not increase

you buy the publisher's books but when it comes to your turf the author is a dick.... hmmmm

[Dantheman]

"Officials at Utah's Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument will no longer sell Kelsey's books. His enthusiastic write-up on the Black Box has helped popularize the route; some 70 search-and-rescues have taken place in the past two decades.

"Michael Kelsey makes things look easy," says Barbara Sharrow, assistant manager for visitors at Escalante. "We find that his books mislead the public." At least one early reviewer of the Slot Canyon Guide sees potential potholes. Steve Brezovec, 30, a canyoneer who read a draft of the book for Kelsey, was shocked that it included a little-known Escalante slot that's regularly choked with impassable 20-foot logjams. If a group enters it in the wrong conditions, Brezovec says, "they'll probably die."

I have a hard time blaming the guy for other people's stupidity. At this point there's really no excuse for not knowing that serious canyoneering is a very dangerous activity.

[DBdude]

But this all reminds me of the swimming holes in Vermont. Specifically one in Dorset. Now you pay to use what was public. Internet destroyed that for the locals 10 years ago. Now we destroyed it for the out of staters and most of use learned to stop posting the good shit online. That being said... I have a friend that is the owner of a large fly fishing and outdoor company that is local. I don’t take him to a lot of cool places because he won’t do it on purpose but he makes his lively hood off of that.

I think all of the prices on back country everything need to go up. At least for a year or two. And that’s to protect the wilderness. Vermont is trashed from all the out of state people and a lot of instate people that just realized there was a thing called hiking.


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the dorset quarry? are you for real. that quarry is on the quick way to manchester from many towns in the albany / saratoga area. It's just not the internet my friend and this bullshit in vermont if something get's used that is literally next to a major road is so fucking stupid

[brutah]

I have a hard time blaming the guy for other people's stupidity. At this point there's really no excuse for not knowing that serious canyoneering is a very dangerous activity.

no, it kelsey's fault since he insists on using the metric system in all his guidebooks.... I've definitely gotten sandbagged using his books.

[muted]

I have a hard time blaming the guy for other people's stupidity. At this point there's really no excuse for not knowing that serious canyoneering is a very dangerous activity.

C'mon. If you are you going to put a guidebook that could kill someone, try to do it responsibly and with some accuracy. Just like the Buffalo Pass author should. Even it's just for the sake of Search and Rescue.

[goldenboy]

Where's goldenboy?

Lurking. Staying the hell away from this.
Hoping zeedashbo won't shoot me.

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[gimpy]

brittneys kinda hot though.....so they got that goin for them

[telefreewasatch]

My non winter passion has been traversing and looping western ranges using foot, bike, vehicle, thumb, and $ to complete the loop without technology.
Been doing this 40 years now, and usually go to new ranges however obscure; covered a lot of ground.
Only beta I want is how to access public land when pretty much surrounded by private.
The rest is adventure.
No guidebook.
No smart phone.
Map + compass.
True adventure means minimal beta.
All western ranges have absorbed an ever increasing influx of use.
Winter and summer.
Specially near cities.
Guidebooks suck.
Deal with it.
Don't wanna see anyone?
Recommend central Nevada in July / August.
Jimmy

[MakersTeleMark]

https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE...rdb5187824.pdf