Making a sleeping bag warmer (backpacking)

[PeachesNCream]

Recommendations on making a sleeping bag warmer for backpacking? I've got a 15 degree bag and I'm trying to make it warmer for late season backpacking. Not planning on being on snow but it could get pretty chilly (like low teens). Any recommendations for good weight-to-warmth additions? I've seen quilts and liners. I already layer up pretty good

[stealurface831]

a down hood and booties coupled with a good quality liner rated to maybe +5 degrees will do wonders.

[GoSlowGoFar]

Down pants and a down jacket?

[brutah]

Get a therm-a-rest bag liner

wear clothes to bed. I've also stuffed extra layers into my bag or draped a insulated jacket over my bag. Also, nice to have warm clothes when you wake up.

Also, a good sleeping pad will go a long ways. The ground can suck warmth out of you. For winter camping I usually use two pads: an insultated inflatable pad with a thermarest egg carton pad under it.

Another option is a tent foam floor which you can get pretty cheap from 40below.com

[3PinGrin]

A quality 15 degree bag should be pretty warm for what you describe, but I know everybody's heat runs different. Hell, my winter bag is only rated to 10F (Moonstone PCT 800) feels more like a 0F bag to me though. Maybe a better bag? Do you have a good pad?

[fleaches]

+1 down pants and jacket, and sleeping pad with higher R value. Liner helps a little but don't expect it to do wonders. Sleeping bag ratings vary a ton, but make sure your sleeping bag is properly lofted and down isn't clumping. Another option is to add a summer quilt to your system. Use it alone during the summer or strap it over your winter bag on cold trips.

Go to bed well fed and if it's cold out throw a hot water bottle in the sleeping bag with you to get warmed up initially.

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[MakersTeleMark]

I have a 0 degree western mountaineering bag and a 20 degree enlightened equipment quilt. Super light for the amount of warmth.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

It's all about the pad. Lot's of farts help too.

[Cocximus]

I have the Alpinelite(20f I think?) from WM. Biggest difference is made by dual sleeping pad, inflatable and the foamie on top. Next was sleeping with my ticker fleece base layer pants. With base layers and mid layers up top I comfortably slept down to -17f on the thermometer. The only issue was the face. It can get pretty uncomfortable at around 0f.

[stealurface831]

I had a Tensor from NEMO with a reflective film inside the pad to return body heat. Warmest sleep I've ever had.

[stealurface831]

I have a 0 degree western mountaineering bag

I've been looking at WM bags for awhile. Is the extra cost worth it in your experience?

[PeachesNCream]

Thanks for all the input. Couple things I'll add. I sleep super cold. While I'm awake I run hot but for some reason when I sleep I get really cold. Also I've got a 1 year old 15 degree big agnes bag that has been properly stored with an insulated pad and I slept with a down jacket on, fleece pants, and wool socks. I'll look into down pants and maybe do an egg carton pad too. Looking for something not too expensive, otherwise I'll just get a zero degree bag.

[stealurface831]

what part of you gets the coldest?

[Meadow Skipper]

http://www.westernmountaineering.com.../sleep-liners/
http://www.westernmountaineering.com...es/hotsac-vbl/
http://www.exped.com/usa/en/product-...at-hl-winter-m
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[AK47bp]

It's all about the pad. Lot's of farts help too.

Dammit.


I came here to say farts and you beat me to it.


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[MakersTeleMark]

I've been looking at WM bags for awhile. Is the extra cost worth it in your experience?

Absolutely. Wm or ff ftw.

[hatchgreenchile]

A few swigs of whiskey should do the trick


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[3PinGrin]

I have a 0 degree western mountaineering bag and a 20 degree enlightened equipment quilt. Super light for the amount of warmth.

Are you saying you double those up, or is the quilt more of a stand alone thing? That quilt costs more than my bag did by quite a bit! (the one I saw on the website anyway) What's the weight on your quilt if you know? (never mind, somehow missed the weights earlier)

[MakersTeleMark]

Are you saying you double those up, or is the quilt more of a stand alone thing? That quilt costs more than my bag did by quite a bit! (the one I saw on the website anyway) What's the weight on your quilt if you know?

I double up. My quilt is custom made 950 fill. Both bags are not cheap, almost a grand total, but I sleep cold. The weight on the EE I think is about 20 oz.

That is for the winter mind you.

[Peruvian]

CCF pad goes above or below the inflatable pad?

[stealurface831]

CCF pad goes above or below the inflatable pad?

above

[Danno]

I have heard people refer to LSD as the worlds tiniest sleeping bag.

Significantly lighter, and may preclude the need for sleep entirely.

quality suggestion

[EWG]

Get a girlfriend. Warmer sleeping bag. It’s not rocket surgery.


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[rideit]

Have they come out with lightweight, reliable electric sleeping bags yet?
Just a matter of time and battery technology.

[MakersTeleMark]

Get a girlfriend. Warmer sleeping bag. It’s not rocket surgery.


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BS. I find they rob my heat, unless I'm moving. Not comparing directly, but a good dog is much more preferable.