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08-17-2021, 02:14 PM #2276
Living here is still better than what, 70-80% of the rest of the country, in terms of quality of life and access to the outdoors. But yeah, it’s pricey…
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08-17-2021, 02:25 PM #2277
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08-17-2021, 03:07 PM #2278
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08-17-2021, 04:26 PM #2279
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08-17-2021, 09:05 PM #2280
Speaking of the Land Trust, and its effect on the tax base of Teton County, my biggest client paid
property taxes in 2019 (8000 sq foot house completed): $ 10,977.79
After working with the Land Trust, pretty sure, in perpetuity, the tax bill is: $ 537.17
Source: Teton County GIS land and tax records.
I think the Land Trust is a boondoggle that cuts the county off at the knees and gives the uber
wealthy the feelies.
Edit for clarity, 2020 tax paid in full is $537.17, assume that is in perpetuity. Yea open spaces!
Edit for further clarity: 379 acres, a crown jewel in the Land Trust portfolio.
Source: JH Land Trust website.Last edited by SuperGaper; 08-17-2021 at 09:47 PM.
The market is dominated by fat skis largely because young toughs want what they see in videos: organ donors hucking into heliski bowls. -Seth Masia
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08-17-2021, 09:17 PM #2281Registered User
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That's amazing on the land trust. There's a bunch out in the hoback and I was trying to figure out the why. Makes a lot of sense now. Side note big fan of the greenwood map servers. A lot better than the arcgis products other counties in different states use in my eyes.
Also anyone know what happened with the deceased hiker coming off of Gannet peak? Going to guess a fall of some sort. Was a Dr. in Cheyenne
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08-17-2021, 09:24 PM #2282
Right on Djongo! You and RaisingArizona would be like 2 peas in a pod- Raising- you were Darryl's star a few years running at Storm Show Studios, I made it into a movie walking through the turnstile for last tram once, kinda like Djongo's call out up thread, me getting off the tram.
I don't actually ski, just ride trams!
Also, my good buddy and erstwhile co worker Shro, was one of Raising"s first huck buddys.
In any case, dying of smoke, traffic, no skiing and all that stuff.
Can't wait to make some turns!The market is dominated by fat skis largely because young toughs want what they see in videos: organ donors hucking into heliski bowls. -Seth Masia
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08-17-2021, 09:44 PM #2283
From the Teton County GIS, self reporting my taxes-
.23 acres, 1100 sq foot Boise Cascade prefab circa 1971
Year of purchase: 2013, $ 2,364.78
Taxes Paid 2020: $ 4,900.79
In 7 years more than doubled, my clients, the .001% evade their share at level almost inconceivable to the
average Joe. I know poly asshat, but everybody dig a little in your local GIS. If you know where to look, you will see some "stuff".
I am happy to pay my taxes, and want to participate in the common good of my community- just wish all the tax dodging estate planning rich fucks had a moral compass. /millionairewildernessThe market is dominated by fat skis largely because young toughs want what they see in videos: organ donors hucking into heliski bowls. -Seth Masia
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08-17-2021, 09:46 PM #2284
Annnnd just finishing my bottle of wine- to all, a goodnight!
The market is dominated by fat skis largely because young toughs want what they see in videos: organ donors hucking into heliski bowls. -Seth Masia
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08-17-2021, 10:12 PM #2285
Gaper, can you post a link to where I can see property owner’s names? I looked on the county, but no names showed up?
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08-17-2021, 10:29 PM #2286
https://maps.greenwoodmap.com/tetonwy/mapserver/
Amazing the amount of trusts and trustees! or not.The market is dominated by fat skis largely because young toughs want what they see in videos: organ donors hucking into heliski bowls. -Seth Masia
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08-17-2021, 10:29 PM #2287
It's a rabbit hole, man.
Go to the greenwood map server and choose the ownership map. You should have a question mark for a cursor. Find the property you're interested in, zoom in and click on it.
There's way too much info there.
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08-17-2021, 10:30 PM #2288
For LLC's you have to go the Secretary of State for more info.
I'm not savvy on that stuff.The market is dominated by fat skis largely because young toughs want what they see in videos: organ donors hucking into heliski bowls. -Seth Masia
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08-17-2021, 10:31 PM #2289
Aha, I’m trying to figure out who owns a property, I thought that was public if not an Llc.
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08-17-2021, 10:40 PM #2290
Would also like to add I am a huge fan of Mr. and Mrs. Suit, we got our first shots of vaccine this spring at the same time! Totally coincidental, but affirming of a small town vibe! Known em' for years and are so great.
The market is dominated by fat skis largely because young toughs want what they see in videos: organ donors hucking into heliski bowls. -Seth Masia
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08-17-2021, 10:41 PM #2291
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08-17-2021, 10:45 PM #2292
I thought you were drunk already. And asleep.
My property taxes more than doubled over your time range, too. I suck at tax avoidance.
I've become more ambivalent about the Land Trust over the years. On the one hand, I love the open space. Thanks to the JHLT, Nature Conservancy, and GTNP, my home is never going to change. On the other hand, the argument that Land Trusts have become a tool for billionaires to protect their selfish interests is pretty compelling.
It's a technical point but that $537 number doesn't sound right. Conservation easements don't work that way. If you look at the conservation easements map and find a parcel that has an easement but also has one or more homesites on it, they're generally assessed and taxed similarly to any other lot that has a home on it.
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08-17-2021, 10:48 PM #2293
Mutual admiration society, Mr. SuperGaper. It was funny when we went for the second shot we ran into a bunch of people we know. One of them was directing traffic in the parking lot -- we caught up with her until we felt bad about backing up traffic. The person who stuck me with my second shot was an old friend, too.
Edit to add -- I'm also drunk, because I had a beer.
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08-17-2021, 11:23 PM #2294Banned
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I can't wait to shred a steep mountain again.
What kind of crowds are expected around New Years now? That's the only time I have off with school, trips are already booked. Last time I spent time in the Tetons, it was pre-what you guys are talking about, even during holidays. Somehow, the impression that I get, I feel like I'm leaving Squaw crowds for more Squaw crowds.
I'm ready for whatever though, worst case I'll meet some shredders in the lines.
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08-17-2021, 11:46 PM #2295
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08-17-2021, 11:48 PM #2296Banned
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At least my toes only go numb now, in my boots, instead of my whole foot. I mind lines less now.
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08-18-2021, 08:09 AM #2297
I'd add that if any of those days are Ikon blackout days, it is noticeably quieter.
And we can make fun out of anything. Those huge people days are typically huge snow days too, so there's that.
I got some crazy gis searching skills, oh you betcha.
Been looking at who owns what for a long time. Cripes, there are some gems out there that far away families have been sitting on for decades; in Kelly for instance...
Look at some of the big properties and notice the tiny parcel cutout and belonging to the Trust. Lock up your 35+ acres and pay tiny taxes by donating one acre.
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08-18-2021, 09:07 AM #2298
The way I understand land trusts, in general, is you give up your right to develop the land for the rest of time, which is binding on future owners, and in exchange, you don't pay property tax on that land. How is this a boondoggle? It is a rich person taking private land away from future development to maintain habitat for wildlife or agriculture land. And they pay a huge price for doing that (not being able to develop it, so the value of the land drops astronomically). Yes, billionaires prefer to put a land trust buffer around their castle but even without land trust, they could always just buy up all the surrounding land and let it sit without developing it. The only difference is with land trust they get a tax break on that surrounding land and in exchange, it will remain undeveloped in perpetuity.
Would you locals prefer if all the land trusts around Jackson were packed with row homes and Walmarts? Can you imagine what Jackson would look like if Wyoming didn't have a land trust law? All the green in this map would be developed into homes by now:
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08-18-2021, 09:48 AM #2299
I imagine a place where locals can afford to live, with plenty of green space afforded by two gigantic national parks, a national wildlife refuge, and a couple million acres of national forest.
Live Free or Die
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08-18-2021, 09:48 AM #2300
It would be extremely unfortunate to see some of those plots of land have affordable housing for low income workers and "gasp".......brown colored folk.
By protecting lands around their properties doesn't that increase the value of their real estate? So it's not like it's some sort of altruistic charitable move.
If you ask these folks that are donating to the LT if they would help create affordable housing what might be their response?
When I spent a winter in Telluride the rich woman I worked for lead the effort to protect the open space in the mouth of the canyon. I would half jokingly tell her I'd like to get a Walmart in there so I could get affordable groceries and other goods because Telluride was pretty stupid to live in for working class people. F I loved seeing the look on her face.dirtbag, not a dentist
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