THE OFFICIAL 20/21 TAHOE SKI & SNOWBOARD THREAD. PANDEMIC SCHMANDEMIC!

[2_1_3]

some stoke, please!

run tres, tres bien


Not that anyone cares, but a fun science note re: "Greenhoused pow". This term is a misnomer for the exact same reason that the "greenhouse effect" of global warming is not actually correct to say (see great discussion in the book "Clouds in a Glass of Beer").

The first order function of a greenhouse is to trap heat by inhibiting convective (turbulent) mixing, not by absorbing and re-radiating longwave (LW) energy back to the surface, which is what clouds, trees, and water vapor (or other 'greenhouse' gases) do. This absorption and re-radiation result in warming of the snow (or troposphere). If your greenhouse windows allow shortwave radiation to pass through but are more opaque to longwave radiation, then this term would work, but it is still a second order function of the greenhouse with respect to the windows being open or closed under normal circumstances. Of course, in the mountains, we have all the processes going on, turbulent mixing, radiation, rocks, trees, slopes, etc. Not that I have a better term or phrase, other than "snow's fahkd by the Ldub!" We got majorly hosed by this last year on Maggies with clouds and high RH, hudge roller balls and evil sludge on N aspects in mid Jan while friends on the n shore had clear skies and blower pow. doh!

[liv2ski]

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I look at photos of long lines and think "fuck that". With the Covids out there I may need to just pass on this season unless I get a few shots real soon.

[meter-man]

Bailed on cp plans this am cuz wind/windslab......friends went to tallac instead but I opted to just stay local and hit heave slack...... but upper lifts all on windhold.....doh!
At least the winds aren’t from the east/ne......yet.......sigh

There was major wind slab at Alterra Mountain Resort this morning. I counted 23 fracture lines, on all aspects - 7 or 8 on Tower 16 (SE), Slot, Hogsback, North Bowl, Kitchen Wall - there were many.

Careful out there in the BC peeple!!

[janky]

Wow, reading that SF Gate article brought on PTSD from last weekend....

heh, we should all be grateful skiing is even there to be complained about this year, this is a perspective offered by MashedPotatoes. The fact that it's one of the few things going during the pandemic certainly compounds the problem along with all the other factors. Made the local news..

https://www.sfgate.com/travel/editor...d-15915557.php

[CC_skier]

Alright, I was def driving the political stuff so here's a short vid from Saturday. I haven't been getting into anything very steep at all, persistent problem has had me sketched out. Skis I have are built for cruising deep/creamy snow though so it's still been fun out there.

[Dark Energy]

Some fun country club pow days at SB last week. During the weekend, SB seemed to be managing the crowds ok, and when the lift lines got too busy for my taste, solitude and soft turns were found in the side country if willing to break trail.

[TahoeJ]

That early evening moisture plus the wind really did a number on the snow overnight. Definitely some patches of survival skiing at Squaw today, at least lower down (didn't have time to go up top). After going nearly bell to bell yesterday and tiring out my legs, I could barely ski through the steeper manky / styrofoam spots, but was comforted by the amount of carnage going on around me. Got easier once it was fully chopped up, but didn't stick around for long.

[Ottime]

There was major wind slab at Alterra Mountain Resort this morning. I counted 23 fracture lines, on all aspects - 7 or 8 on Tower 16 (SE), Slot, Hogsback, North Bowl, Kitchen Wall - there were many.

Careful out there in the BC peeple!!

Several at Alterra South.

[Consigliere]

That early evening moisture plus the wind really did a number on the snow overnight. Definitely some patches of survival skiing at Squaw today, at least lower down (didn't have time to go up top). After going nearly bell to bell yesterday and tiring out my legs, I could barely ski through the steeper manky / styrofoam spots, but was comforted by the amount of carnage going on around me. Got easier once it was fully chopped up, but didn't stick around for long.

Granite chief opened noon-ish, was fun, but definitely not blower. Parking lot mostly full, surprising for a Wednesday. Good turns on hogsback/headwall face later in the day - was getting refilled by the wind blowing over the ridge.

[summit]

What is the status of buying a day ticket if you have pass to another ski hill that had mtn collective mtn half price tix as part of the pass?

[gone2alpine]

That early evening moisture plus the wind really did a number on the snow overnight. Definitely some patches of survival skiing at Squaw today, at least lower down (didn't have time to go up top). After going nearly bell to bell yesterday and tiring out my legs, I could barely ski through the steeper manky / styrofoam spots, but was comforted by the amount of carnage going on around me. Got easier once it was fully chopped up, but didn't stick around for long.

Pretty much the same report from Schralpine Ghettos

[meter-man]

run tres, tres bien


Not that anyone cares, but a fun science note re: "Greenhoused pow". This term is a misnomer for the exact same reason that the "greenhouse effect" of global warming is not actually correct to say (see great discussion in the book "Clouds in a Glass of Beer").

The first order function of a greenhouse is to trap heat by inhibiting convective (turbulent) mixing, not by absorbing and re-radiating longwave (LW) energy back to the surface, which is what clouds, trees, and water vapor (or other 'greenhouse' gases) do. This absorption and re-radiation result in warming of the snow (or troposphere). If your greenhouse windows allow shortwave radiation to pass through but are more opaque to longwave radiation, then this term would work, but it is still a second order function of the greenhouse with respect to the windows being open or closed under normal circumstances. Of course, in the mountains, we have all the processes going on, turbulent mixing, radiation, rocks, trees, slopes, etc. Not that I have a better term or phrase, other than "snow's fahkd by the Ldub!" We got majorly hosed by this last year on Maggies with clouds and high RH, hudge roller balls and evil sludge on N aspects in mid Jan while friends on the n shore had clear skies and blower pow. doh!

How about "hotboxed pow"?? Kinda like the car with the windows rolled up...everything that comes out feels like sludge.

[powdork]

What is the status of buying a day ticket if you have pass to another ski hill that had mtn collective mtn half price tix as part of the pass?

I assume it has to be done online

[guermo]

Pretty much the same report from Schralpine Ghettos

That early evening moisture plus the wind really did a number on the snow overnight. Definitely some patches of survival skiing at Squaw today, at least lower down (didn't have time to go up top). After going nearly bell to bell yesterday and tiring out my legs, I could barely ski through the steeper manky / styrofoam spots, but was comforted by the amount of carnage going on around me. Got easier once it was fully chopped up, but didn't stick around for long.

Huh, i had one of my best days of the year today bell to bell on KT. To each his own I guess.

[TahoeJ]

Huh, i had one of my best days of the year today bell to bell on KT. To each his own I guess.

I didn’t have time to wait in the KT line so opted for Oly Lady. Curious where specifically you were skiing off KT? One of your best days of the year, really? After the last 2 weeks?

[ripvw]

Pretty windslabby at Sierra this morning as well. There was some good cream cheese in a few areas of wind sheltered trees, but plenty of leg breaker snow elsewhere. Surprisingly busy for a Wednesday. Fast pass for the win.

[emcee]

If you squint, you can see me having inbounds fun this past weekend

[guermo]

I didn’t have time to wait in the KT line so opted for Oly Lady. Curious where specifically you were skiing off KT? One of your best days of the year, really? After the last 2 weeks?

Yeah I really really enjoyed it. Great day with friends and great snow.

[Ottime]

Pretty much the same report from Schralpine Ghettos

Especially the it got better the more it was skied. Scott Chute was great around 3pm. I take what I can get. Had a lot of fun out there today especially when everyone left around 11am.

[old goat]

That's the thing about breakable wind crust--it gets better when it gets skied. I've skied crust so nasty that the best skiing was on avy runouts. Wonder if the snow will dry out tonight--or freeze?

[dookeyXXX]

SRBSRH was interesting yesterday between 1:30 and 4.
About 11 vehicles parked between the 4 "lots", yet didn't see a soul on the slope the whole time until we made our exit.
It was foggy and windy; the fog droplets froze to our goggles.
Snow was variable, running the gamut from wind scoured at the top of Donner Ridge, to breakable crust, to youthful Sierra cement.
It was thigh deep in places.
No visible or audible signs of sliding, though we steered clear of the open bowl area that has slid in the past.

[jorion]

Which one of you let waze get you stuck in the snow for a week?

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...es-snow-sierra

Honestly sounds nice other than the embarrassment of needing to be rescued. Hopefully he gave a fake name.

[CC_skier]

It was pretty crusty on the east shore this morning. Still skiable, for sure, but you could definitely feel the crust. If you found the right line, there were some good pockets of wind blown that were still skiing well.

Views were nice, slight wind coming in from the east. SO pow dork for pointing out this great pre-work spot.


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[lepistoir]

Which one of you let waze get you stuck in the snow for a week?

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...es-snow-sierra

Honestly sounds nice other than the embarrassment of needing to be rescued. Hopefully he gave a fake name.

I wish the reporter could give a little more commentary. It must look extra kooky to somebuddy in L.A.

[reid]

y'all see the Synchronized Jumping effort yesterday?