THE OFFICIAL 20/21 TAHOE SKI & SNOWBOARD THREAD. PANDEMIC SCHMANDEMIC!

[powpig]

28 isn't shut down south of Sand Harbor - I've driven through there multiple times in the last few days, most recently yesterday evening. There is a check point to keep people from going to South Lake but the road is open to Carson.

That may be how it is on the ground, a soft closure, but the signs on 431 say 28 is closed at Sand Harbor and NVRoads.com shows the same.

[powpig]

I’m curious to hear what traffic on 431 267. And 89 looks like all weekend. Sand harbor. Incline, through sunny side
I’m thinking it’s going to be a Zoo. At a new level
Unless they close more random shit to keep the communities from making any money. On the big weekend

My guess is this will be the lightest Labor Day we've seen in decades.
The smoke, while better than the worst it's been the past 6 weeks, will still persist and keep the hordes down the hill where the air is friendlier.

[old_newguy]

Man, for a community that would have been wiped out if the “man” hadn’t shown up to stop the fire you sure are whiny.

[GoSlowGoFar]

Man, for a community that would have been wiped out if the “man” hadn’t shown up to stop the fire you sure are whiny.

Government overreach, it would've been contained a week ago if the man would've just left it up to the locals. /s

[LongShortLong]

Highway 50 to Carson City. Shut down this morning
No access to area’s that are not even under a warning

Having a tough time visualizing how that’s gonna work

Overreach.

Gee, what could go wrong? A record large wildfire in and around a populated area popular with tourists on a big tourist weekend. Every available emergency personnel tied up on one of several large wildfires, some also record size.

There's nothing spare for new starts or new evacuations or directing tourons to coffee shops.

I feel you that you want to do your harmless activity. I want to do mine too. If we're all out there, some of us are doofuses who will start fires. All of us create demand on those LEOs and fire people we don't have enough of. Life sucks sometimes. With little to no infrastructure damage in SLT, repop should come quickly after containment. It'll get better soon.

If your activity is truly essential, like hauling gas or food to the fire, or pumping or cooking same, I'm sure they'll let you in. If not, check out Nevada, it's a large state - many awesome places, good people too.

[emcee]

I feel so much for the community affected, and this fire has been stressing me out to no end. I have property in kirkwood and my family has a home in tahoe city so there's definitely skin in the game... but I am so fortunate that I have had my warm bed each night and am not one of those evacuated, nor have I had anything of value destroyed (yet). The reason why tahoe is safe for now is because massive amounts of resources from around the state were mobilized to fight it; and I've been so impressed at the generosity of people here on TGR and in the wider community supporting evacuees.

This megafire stretched from the central valley to the basin and is now on its way to the desert. This snake of fire ties so many regions together showing it's clear we're all interconnected-- like it or not we're all in the climate disaster boat together.

Can we finally, finally give up the 'locals only' 'bay go home' 'no new residents' bullshit?
Give up the covid fingerpointing and shouting "we don't have hospital capacity for you!" while you send it off a cliff and risk being a patient yourself
Give a rest to the "I know the backcountry and how to be safe, I should be allowed in the forest but these kooks shouldn't"
Take a break from the "go home to the bay" protests at the TC Y organized by NH transplants who have been working at christie hill for a season and suddenly the lake belongs to them.

People have been migrating around the region since the washoe would summer up in tahoe and winter down in the hills, since the goldminers rolled thru and back out again, since sinatra owned the cal neva. Just because you happen to exist in a particular spot during a particular cycle of history does not mean you own it nor have the ability to freeze the wheel while you're on top..

On a micro scale it's the same in the bay with say, Bolinias residents: "stay out! go home! but please keep sending our amazon packages and eaze deliveries and we're gonna shop at costsco and rush to the ER at marin general and all the other interconnected infrastructure we need to enable our bucolic existence but don't want to acknowledge."

Our fate is all connected in a megaregion stretching from the coast across the valley and up into the mountains - the ship floats and sinks together, help comes from all sides, and the entire populace shares the burden of paying for all the good we get out of this incredibly unique and beautiful region.

[MTT]

Man, for a community that would have been wiped out if the “man” hadn’t shown up to stop the fire you sure are whiny.

You mean the fire 30 miles away on the other side of a lake?
Open a map and read at bit

I still can’t figure out a good reason for doing this shit other than ruining the economy and livlyhoods of people on the North shore

Probably power drunk. Definitely stupid

[GoSlowGoFar]

I feel so much for the community affected, and this fire has been stressing me out to no end. I have property in kirkwood and my family has a home in tahoe city so there's definitely skin in the game... but I am so fortunate that I have had my warm bed each night and am not one of those evacuated, nor have I had anything of value destroyed (yet). The reason why tahoe is safe for now is because massive amounts of resources from around the state were mobilized to fight it; and I've been so impressed at the generosity of people here on TGR and in the wider community supporting evacuees.

This megafire stretched from the central valley to the basin and is now on its way to the desert. This snake of fire ties so many regions together showing it's clear we're all interconnected-- like it or not we're all in the climate disaster boat together.

Can we finally, finally give up the 'locals only' 'bay go home' 'no new residents' bullshit?
Give up the covid fingerpointing and shouting "we don't have hospital capacity for you!" while you send it off a cliff and risk being a patient yourself
Give a rest to the "I know the backcountry and how to be safe, I should be allowed in the forest but these kooks shouldn't"
Take a break from the "go home to the bay" protests at the TC Y organized by NH transplants who have been working at christie hill for a season and suddenly the lake belongs to them.

People have been migrating around the region since the washoe would summer up in tahoe and winter down in the hills, since the goldminers rolled thru and back out again, since sinatra owned the cal neva. Just because you happen to exist in a particular spot during a particular cycle of history does not mean you own it nor have the ability to freeze the wheel while you're on top..

On a micro scale it's the same in the bay with say, Bolinias residents: "stay out! go home! but please keep sending our amazon packages and eaze deliveries and we're gonna shop at costsco and rush to the ER at marin general and all the other interconnected infrastructure we need to enable our bucolic existence but don't want to acknowledge."

Our fate is all connected in a megaregion stretching from the coast across the valley and up into the mountains - the ship floats and sinks together, help comes from all sides, and the entire populace shares the burden of paying for all the good we get out of this incredibly unique and beautiful region.

I'm with ya and get where you're coming from but the Washoe would winter in the Carson and Washoe Valleys, not on the coast.

[TahoeJ]

Man, for a community that would have been wiped out if the “man” hadn’t shown up to stop the fire you sure are whiny.

Seriously. Some of you need to be thankful and STFU. How ridiculous.

Yeah, CalFire wants to ruin the local economy on the north shore. That's definitely it.

[emcee]

I'm with ya and get where you're coming from but the Washoe would winter in the Carson and Washoe Valleys, not on the coast.

Lol yeah I realized right after I wrote it that Washoe and coast Mi wuk probably had the same fights over localism

[GoSlowGoFar]

Lol yeah I realized right after I wrote it that Washoe and coast Mi wuk probably had the same fights over localism

Ha, I work with Tribes and they're definitely not exempt from that train of thought. Although, that's probably more an outcome of white men trying to draw jurisdictional boundaries where they never existed.

[ShakeMeUp]

MTT’s hot takes are the absolute worst. You miss the part where we were about 15 minutes from having yet another roaring wildfire in Truckee on Monday?

[teledad]

That may be how it is on the ground, a soft closure, but the signs on 431 say 28 is closed at Sand Harbor and NVRoads.com shows the same.

Not just "on the ground" - that's the intent. From https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents/20...-639afb28d654/

Nevada Department of Transportation – Road Closures:
The following are soft road closures, meaning the roads are open to residents and employees who must enter the area to access their home or work.
• US 50 going west bound (into the Tahoe Basin) at Spooner Jct. (S. Carson St & 50)
• SR 207 west bound at Foothill Rd (intersection at the bottom of Kingsbury Grade)
• SR 28 and US 50 Jct. West Bound on 50

[LegoSkier]

Remember that come Monday some 20-30K spun out tired-assed hippies (including presumably Splat) will be returning from the Renegade Burning Man. I would guess it best to not send them through a wildfire zone or on side roads as much as possible and make sure they all stay on 80.

[MTT]

Seriously. Some of you need to be thankful and STFU. How ridiculous.

Yeah, CalFire wants to ruin the local economy on the north shore. That's definitely it.

Cal Fire can’t do that. It’s coming from somewhere else

[gimpy]

There’s an abundance of stupidity going on here……I think the authorities took charge and did what needed to be done…..sure there may be some stuff that wasn’t really “necessary” but we all have to remember that there are tons of dumbfucks that will be doing stupid shit if not for the closures. Yeah it’s sucks for us who know how to recreate responsibly but as usual…..there are idiots who don’t

[El Chupacabra]

Cal Fire can’t do that. It’s coming from somewhere else

It's being directed by George Soros, Jeff Bezos, and the golem from Hillary's pizza parlor child porn ring, all from their secret command center on the underside of this flat earth.

[Ottime]

^^^^ thank you for actually making me chuckle out loud. That shit I great. Never though about the underside of the flat earth before.

I feel so much for the community affected, and this fire has been stressing me out to no end. I have property in kirkwood and my family has a home in tahoe city so there's definitely skin in the game... but I am so fortunate that I have had my warm bed each night and am not one of those evacuated, nor have I had anything of value destroyed (yet). The reason why tahoe is safe for now is because massive amounts of resources from around the state were mobilized to fight it; and I've been so impressed at the generosity of people here on TGR and in the wider community supporting evacuees.

This megafire stretched from the central valley to the basin and is now on its way to the desert. This snake of fire ties so many regions together showing it's clear we're all interconnected-- like it or not we're all in the climate disaster boat together.

Can we finally, finally give up the 'locals only' 'bay go home' 'no new residents' bullshit?
Give up the covid fingerpointing and shouting "we don't have hospital capacity for you!" while you send it off a cliff and risk being a patient yourself
Give a rest to the "I know the backcountry and how to be safe, I should be allowed in the forest but these kooks shouldn't"
Take a break from the "go home to the bay" protests at the TC Y organized by NH transplants who have been working at christie hill for a season and suddenly the lake belongs to them.

People have been migrating around the region since the washoe would summer up in tahoe and winter down in the hills, since the goldminers rolled thru and back out again, since sinatra owned the cal neva. Just because you happen to exist in a particular spot during a particular cycle of history does not mean you own it nor have the ability to freeze the wheel while you're on top..

On a micro scale it's the same in the bay with say, Bolinias residents: "stay out! go home! but please keep sending our amazon packages and eaze deliveries and we're gonna shop at costsco and rush to the ER at marin general and all the other interconnected infrastructure we need to enable our bucolic existence but don't want to acknowledge."

Our fate is all connected in a megaregion stretching from the coast across the valley and up into the mountains - the ship floats and sinks together, help comes from all sides, and the entire populace shares the burden of paying for all the good we get out of this incredibly unique and beautiful region.

um, go home bay boy. Next thing ya know, you'll want to come to Santa Cruz and leave the designated tourist zone of the Boardwalk. No way homee.

/snark (just in case)

[k2skier112]

Government overreach, it would've been contained a week ago if the man would've just left it up to the locals. /s

let me guess, you were gonna go rake it...

[NakedShorts]

Ottime - That was my exact plan. Stay in the hood and piss in the pool!

[emcee]

Hey I spend my good money on hot dogs and cotton candy. Your little beachside resort wouldn't exist if not for all us valley folk propping up the kitsch economy! Oh and extra mayo on my chilli dog, please.

[NakedShorts]

Again with the gripes on reporters.
Why does this show up in a Silicone Valley publication before ours.

Brian Newman, Cal Fire operations section chief, said Friday that it would be at least three or four days “at a minimum” until most evacuees would be allowed to come home, quashing any hope that residents and visitors would be able to return during the long holiday weekend.

https://www.siliconvalley.com/2021/0...mpression=true

[GoSlowGoFar]

let me guess, you were gonna go rake it...

Hell no, I'd be out there with dual battery powered leaf blowers.

Just for clarification, my initial comment was sarcasm.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Again with the gripes on reporters.
Why does this show up in a Silicone Valley publication before ours.

Brian Newman, Cal Fire operations section chief, said Friday that it would be at least three or four days “at a minimum” until most evacuees would be allowed to come home, quashing any hope that residents and visitors would be able to return during the long holiday weekend.

https://www.siliconvalley.com/2021/0...mpression=true

If you’re an evacuee you really should be watching the daily Cal Fire community briefings for up to date info. No reason to be relying on reporters for that, Bay Area or local:

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/7801/

And if you’re paying attention to that, you’ll know that people are just beginning to return to the west side of the fire, where it started, and would have no expectation to return to South Lake over the next few days.

[teledad]

um, go home bay boy. Next thing ya know, you'll want to come to Santa Cruz and leave the designated tourist zone of the Boardwalk. No way homee.

It's getting kind of smoky here, it's OK if I bring my SUP down to Steamer Lane and catch some waves right?