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  1. #1901
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    There's a road in there from old mining activity.
    life ain't guaranteed, love your people while you can

  2. #1902
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    There is one great face on the wilderness side, right next to the huts. We call it "Van Epps Peak". A group of 4 of my friends can pretty much ski it out in a day. After that, you would have to skin pretty far to get to fresh terrain, other than the sledder zones. And the people going to these huts will not be prohibited from using the sledder zones. In fact, Rob's website mostly uses pics of those zones to promote the operation. Some more things to consider, as a potential consumer,: Rob's current plan is to get his customers to the hut using side by sides with tracks. The only way that will work is to tow the people in. It's 10 miles to the drop, on a road that 4 out of 7 days per week is fully whooped out. Once you get to the drop, you will have to skin up 2,000' to the huts with all of your supplies for your trip on your back. He is basically providing a tent and a cot, with a wood stove and cooking stove. If there is an accident, there is no plan. Rob can't even ride a sled to the huts, both due to permit restrictions and his lack of sled skills. The entire zone does not typically come into shape until mid January, and there is absolutely no good mitigated tree skiing anywhere near the huts. We did not ski this zone at all this season until the PWL was no longer a concern, around the beginning of March. (Rob plans to have customers up there as soon as there is enough snow to tow them out there.) You also mention "road access". The permit may be pulled because the quality of the road was not even considered by the FS in granting the permit, again because they relied on the description in Rob's application, that states that he will be able to use side by sides to haul his stuff in and out. Anybody who has traveled that road in the summer will seriously doubt the viability of that plan. And the FS has recently done a field assessment on the road with an engineer. Fingers crossed they announce the permit is pulled quite soon, before he starts fucking it up. When we first raised concerns about these issues with the FS, they put together a call with the local FS head ranger "Kristin" (who independently green lighted the permit and moved on to another position shortly after this controversy began), the local grooming council, state parks winter recreation manager, the WSSA, our group and Rob. The only people in favor of it were Kristin and Rob, and Kristin seemed to be hanging on only to save face. Her decision to waive NEPA requirements backfired, because the application process failed to raise the issues that would have likely doomed the permit. During that call we told Rob that the Teanaway would be a far better location for these huts, both because of the much lower chance of conflict with pre-existing users, but also because it would provide access to good skiing under pretty much every condition. We tend go to the Teanaway when there is too much new snow further west, or when the snow level rises above the elevation of the valley floor at Salmon la Sac (around 2500'). Kristin offered to let him move his permit there (which would have been another violation of law) but Rob said it was "too low". He was wrong (and apparently too dumb to read the tea leaves that his permit was in jeopardy), but that's immaterial now, as that option is out the window. My prediction is that the permit will be pulled quite soon for one or all of these reasons and any future attempt to get a permit in that zone will require a full NEPA analysis.

    BTW - I can think of a better spot for these huts: WA Pass. Good luck with that NEPA Rob.

  3. #1903
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    Sounds like a very poorly planned operation. Not someplace I would want to be rescued and rescue chances are slim as hell back there anyway.

    Dude at last resort was telling me about how he thinks there will be sled/skier collisions on the trails

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  4. #1904
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    Thereís some people in the BC Skiing community that are full of themselves. Iím getting tired of the selfish arguments that Iíve heard of why they should be the only ones to enjoy the mountains, probably some of the most condescending assholes Iíve encountered have been on touring gear. I done ranting.
    ďI have a responsibility to not be intimidated and bullied by low life losers who abuse what little power is granted to them as ski patrollers.Ē

  5. #1905
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoqpass View Post
    Thereís some people in the BC Skiing community that are full of themselves. Iím getting tired of the selfish arguments that Iíve heard of why they should be the only ones to enjoy the mountains, probably some of the most condescending assholes Iíve encountered have been on touring gear. I done ranting.
    Some are almost to the level of road cyclists.





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  6. #1906
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wapow View Post
    BTW - I can think of a better spot for these huts: WA Pass. Good luck with that NEPA Rob.
    Fuck that.
    Well maybe I'm the faggot America
    I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

  7. #1907
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    Quote Originally Posted by plugboots View Post
    Fuck that.
    Seriously.

  8. #1908
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    Anyone lose a ski, skin and crampon near illumination rock at mt. Hood

    https://www.mountainproject.com/foru...find-the-owner

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    Huh.
    Well maybe I'm the faggot America
    I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

  10. #1910
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    likely gonna be some landslides in that burn area this fall.

  11. #1911
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    Yikes, should be interesting to see how it looks next spring!

  12. #1912
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    Hey fellas, I broke my hip on the hill back in March and recovery has been coming along slower than I'd like. Do you have a physical therapist in Seattle that you would recommend?

  13. #1913
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    In addition to a good PT. Find a Rec Center with a lazy river and walk it.
    Then walk it up stream and swim.

  14. #1914
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    Quote Originally Posted by hbfs View Post
    Hey fellas, I broke my hip on the hill back in March and recovery has been coming along slower than I'd like. Do you have a physical therapist in Seattle that you would recommend?
    I've been doing rehab following Achilles rupture surgery with Peak Sports and Spine in Renton and I have been impressed by them. They have a few facilities in the area, not sure if they have one in Seattle though.

  15. #1915
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    Quote Originally Posted by hbfs View Post
    Hey fellas, I broke my hip on the hill back in March and recovery has been coming along slower than I'd like. Do you have a physical therapist in Seattle that you would recommend?
    Sports med @ Husky stadium if you can get in. It'll cost you a bit because of their billing practices but I found all of their people to be top flight. Either well trained or the ones who are doing the training.

    ...No conflicts of interest to disclose.

  16. #1916
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    Ouch! I had a great experience at Real Rehab sports + physical therapy in Northgate. One of their trainers, Nick, is an avid skier and helped me do a minor knee/hip rehab. Hope you are back at it soon.



    Quote Originally Posted by hbfs View Post
    Hey fellas, I broke my hip on the hill back in March and recovery has been coming along slower than I'd like. Do you have a physical therapist in Seattle that you would recommend?

  17. #1917
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    15 years ago this guy brought me back from a herniated disc and sciatica so bad I didn't feel my toes for quite some time. Been through pt alot and this guy was by far the best.

    https://eastsidesportsrehab.com/our-...-t-pilkington/

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  18. #1918
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    life ain't guaranteed, love your people while you can

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    Schneider Springs Fire Afternoon Update 8-12-21
    Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2021 – 3:30 p.m.

    Contact: Fire Information: 509-653-1468

    Today: Heavy smoke continues to blanket the Naches River corridor. Residents and visitors are urged to be especially mindful of changing air and driving conditions on Highways 12 and 410, along with an increase in emergency responder traffic on the roads. The Schneider Fire continues to experience intense heat and growth, with torching, crowning and spotting behavior. More fire response resources have been arriving throughout the day. Due to smoky conditions, aircraft has been unable to assist ground crews today but will fly once conditions improve. Crews and dozers are continuing to build contingency lines where accessible. The majority of the growth is occurring in the western portion of the fire over Old Scab Mountain.

    Evacuations: As of 11:15 a.m. on August 12, the Bumping Road and drainage was moved up to a LEVEL 3 evacuation. This means if you live in the area that you need to evacuate as soon as possible.

    As of about 2:30 p.m. on August 12, Hwy 410 from Eagle Rock north and west to Bumping River Road was officially moved to a LEVEL 2 Evacuation. This means if you live in the area you need to BE SET. Emergency management officials are working on homeowner notifications.

    Due to an increase in fire activity and with a shift in weather patterns over the next couple of days, there is the potential for additional closure orders that could include more of the 410 corridor on BOTH sides of the road. Plan now! Little Naches Campground and surrounding recreational areas and trails could be included in this closure, so if you are headed up for the weekend be aware that you might be turned around. No timeframe has been given for this closure, and it is dependent on weather and fire activity. Stay aware!

    Please check with Yakima County Office of Emergency Management on their official Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/YakimaCountyOEM for updates on evacuation information. Residents and visitors are encouraged to sign up for emergency alerts through Yakima County: https://www.yakimacounty.us/2222/Alert-Yakima


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  20. #1920
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    Flew out of SeaTac on Wednesday and got this viewÖ

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  21. #1921
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    AQI is up to 130ish in Seattle. Hopefully the winds stay slow, itís look alright this week, but the hella heat wonít help.

    AFAIK fires donít spontaneously ignite. Do they ever really root cause these? Sparks from a trucks chains caused a brush fire on I-5 last week. I wonder if most of these are inadvertently human related vs. ďnaturalĒ.

  22. #1922
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    lightning, bro


    Lightning passed through the Naches Ranger District the evening of Tuesday August 3 igniting a fire in the Schneider Springs area

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  23. #1923
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    Maybe Iím late to the party, but just saw on IG that Cripple Creek is continuing their Westward touring shop expansion opening up a store in Fremont. Whatís the vibe for you Seattleites?

    More is better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinevibes View Post
    Maybe I’m late to the party, but just saw on IG that Cripple Creek is continuing their Westward touring shop expansion opening up a store in Fremont. What’s the vibe for you Seattleites?

    More is better?
    The Lot 4 uphill dog park says to fuckin bring it.

    Honestly, the VAST majority of tourons will get out on their $3k setups 2 times per year, and both times it will be out of a ski resort parking lot, or at paradise. The days of easy access wilderness isolation are long gone in this area. So, you get creative and the treasure hunt for new stashes continues. I think 99% of outdoor equipment is way overpriced so i won't be buying anything from that store (unless on summer clearance), but plenty of folks will love the place i bet.

  25. #1925
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    I'm sure the newly arrived to the PNW via CO via some other state with high paying tech job crowd will eat up that Cripple Creek shop. Who actually lives in Seattle these days? Anyone who has been here more than five years has probably already moved to the periphery and rarely travels into Freelard. I've gotten used to not having a brick and mortar backcountry store in the South end.

    On TAY facebook they're debating whether Cripple Creek is the new "local" option because some guy originally from Oregon is running it. Compare to REI (founded in Seattle in 1938) or Evo (started in Seattle buy a guy from Oregon who went to college in Seattle). It's hard to consider a shop with locations in Aspen, Vail, and Denver "local."

    It will be interesting to see if they can hang. Marmot Mountain Works was in Bellevue since 1976. Very high end and in a very affluent location (with free parking) and yet it went under in 2014. Backcountry Supply in Tacoma went belly up in 2010 leaving us with REI and Sturtevants as the only ski shops in town.

    Why did they name their ski shop Cripple Creek? Cripple Creek CO might be the least snowy mountain area in the US. At least name it after a savage mountain range like Valhalla Pure.

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