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Thread: Pieps Beacons under fire
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10-14-2020, 07:06 PM #1
Pieps Beacons under fire
Big flap about the Pieps beaconson Instagram and among Facebook friends.
It stems from a crash with pro skier McNutt claiming his beacon malfunctioned.
https://unofficialnetworks.com/2020/...-in-avalanche/
Anybody else have issues? Mine seems to be solid, and I’m curious.
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10-14-2020, 07:09 PM #2
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10-14-2020, 07:49 PM #3I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
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10-14-2020, 07:54 PM #4
Sounds more like "ice chunks" under fire to me.
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10-14-2020, 08:37 PM #5
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10-14-2020, 08:40 PM #6
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10-14-2020, 08:50 PM #7
That sounds like Bs.
But... I would be interested in proof that it works that way for a fail safe.
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10-14-2020, 08:54 PM #8
that style switch was more likely to break than function properly in my opinion
I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
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10-14-2020, 09:01 PM #9
I wonder if that’s why the sent me a Powder BT when I sought a repair to my DSP last Spring.
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10-14-2020, 09:03 PM #10
And if the protruding switch (with a hollow back, you know like a scoop) rips off the beacon? Also, how the hell is it supposed to push back into send mode?? It also protrudes in the off mode making it more of a pain in the ass to get out of the harness pouch. I like and trust the beacon, but it's a poorly thought out component of an otherwise good design IMO.
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10-14-2020, 09:11 PM #11
I don't worry much in send mode, plus I'm almost always solo so the odds of it breaking in search mode (or me being found if buried) are pretty small. I do ski with partners occasionally and don't worry too much about it because I am cognizant of the issue. If caught in a secondary avalanche, I would think losing the beacon would actually be a bigger concern than the switch. Still sloppy though.
Maybe you are referring to something besides the plastic breaking though? I have wondered about that switch for patrollers and others that put it through the rigors just because the sliding design. I don't know if a contact might wear out or something?
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10-14-2020, 09:13 PM #12
copy that
I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
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10-14-2020, 09:20 PM #13
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10-14-2020, 09:25 PM #14
I've been travelling the mountains alone for 40 years. If something happens it happens, bfd. I have talked to my kids about knowing that it was exactly what you stated, they are cool with it. I go where I want, when I want, and don't wait on anyone to show up to the party. Any other insight?
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10-14-2020, 09:27 PM #15
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10-14-2020, 09:28 PM #16
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10-14-2020, 09:35 PM #17
3PG
I’m with ya - I do a lot of solo skiing - always have and always willI didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
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10-14-2020, 09:41 PM #18
Thanks mikey b, I get a little crass just because of lectures about travelling solo mostly from people that haven't spent a single night alone in the outdoors. My dad had me doing that and learning how to light a fire in the middle of winter with one match when I was in my early teens.
Also, there is a reason some of the great conservationists and ecologists of our time spent a lot of time alone in the wilderness. You can never soak in and process things in a group the way you can when alone, that's lost on a lot of people though. Plus, I would have spent a lot less time outdoors if I was always trying to plan things with others.
My entire extended family is full of loners, must be genetic, lol. Sorry, rant over, back to beacons.
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10-14-2020, 09:45 PM #19
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10-14-2020, 09:46 PM #20
Point of correction, the switch protruding in search mode was so that THE USER could quickly slap it back into send. Not the avalanche.
Tracker 2 was the same concept.
Now I don't like that switch design but at the time that the OG DSP Pro came out it was probably the most technologically advanced beacon on the market. I don't recall when exactly it came out but well over 10 years ago. There are better beacons now.
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10-14-2020, 09:57 PM #21
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10-14-2020, 11:47 PM #22
That makes more sense from a design perspective at least. I think sometimes it's easy to focus too much on the positive side of a design concept and get wrapped up in the "eureka" moment without taking a step back to re-evaluate the bigger picture of how it might effect other aspects of the design under real world conditions.
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10-14-2020, 11:59 PM #23
It blows me away that any modern beacon doesn't have an auto revert to transmit mode built in, like a decade ago.
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10-15-2020, 12:01 AM #24
^^This
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10-15-2020, 05:26 AM #25
Do they not? The dsp sport and pro both have auto revert to send, at least in the recent iterations.
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