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10-18-2020, 09:23 AM #76Registered User
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https://www.piquenewsmagazine.com/op...UMggjvqPBQwoMA
A good artical connecting all the dots by Vince ShuleyLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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10-18-2020, 09:44 AM #77“We are working on the solution, but right now the data is telling us we don’t have a recallable device according to the standards set for the industry,” explained Dicuollo. “But we’re listening to the community and we know that it’s not necessarily just about data … it also has to do with confidence. We’re interested in the safety of all backcountry skiers and we’re taking it very seriously.”a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
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10-18-2020, 09:57 AM #78
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10-19-2020, 02:59 PM #79Registered User
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10-19-2020, 03:24 PM #80
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10-19-2020, 03:30 PM #81
I’m pretty convinced quite a few people don’t know the difference between the models but they’re OUTRAGED anyway.
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10-19-2020, 03:38 PM #82Registered User
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A couple days ago there was a FB link to global news so average folks could watch the story while they were eating dinner
and now we got a class action with a Vangroovy law firm
so much for the story just fading awayLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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10-19-2020, 04:09 PM #83
Ambulance chasing, winter edition...
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10-19-2020, 06:05 PM #84Registered User
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I acused L hutz esq of being an ambulance chaser to which he replied
" I am volenteer FD so we get there before the ambulance "Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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10-19-2020, 07:25 PM #85
I do not think he connected all the dots. Did the dead skier or Mcnut check to see if their beacons were working after the beacon test before they dropped in. Was Mcnut the last perform to go on search when doing the beacon check? I mentioned that I skied the entire day with my beacon off. We performed beacon check and I am sure I pressed the lock when going back to search and inadvertently went into off mode. This is very easy to do with this beacon. I am not a professional but am fairly experienced backcountry skier and I made this mistake. Since the beacons were inspected and found to be working fine I tend to think this could be the issue.
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10-19-2020, 07:45 PM #86
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10-19-2020, 08:34 PM #87Registered User
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I thot Vince did a good job of putting it all in one spot from a connecting the dots perspective,
I will ask the dead guy when I see him on the other side ehLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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10-20-2020, 11:04 AM #88"Your wife being mad is temporary, but pow turns do not get unmade" - mallwalker the wise
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10-20-2020, 11:17 AM #89Registered User
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any indication if McNutt's beacon smacked the tree(s) he was so violently swept into?
also, might have missed it, but was his switch facing into his body or to the outside?
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10-20-2020, 11:21 AM #90
A few folks have posted that a beacon should be worn in the harness with the screen facing in. This also happens to be how I wear it. But this is NOT how it is shown in the DSP manual:
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10-20-2020, 11:52 AM #91
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10-20-2020, 12:24 PM #92
It actually fits in the harness best when inserted like this:
I've fiddled with this thing some more now. With very light pressure on the lock I can slide it from send to off. Too light, I think. In fact, if I place it in the harness as shown in the manual and put a bit of pressure on the buckle (which is exactly where pressure is most like to be exerted in a crash) I can easily slide it from send to off.
Here is a vid: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NmimUP7US83Sfvny9
If you place the beacon in the harness facing the other way this is also possible, albeit with more pressure. I'm pretty sure I'm done with this beacon. As I mentioned earlier, without pressing on the lock, mine stays in firmly in send, but the amount of pressure need to "unlock" the switch is much too light. Put me in the anti-Pieps camp.
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10-20-2020, 12:52 PM #93
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10-20-2020, 01:09 PM #94Registered User
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I wear mine screen in too, but the other way around. Then you can see the flashing red light to visually confirm its in send mode while it's in the harness.
The buckle over the lock button if you wear it screen out does seem problematic - never occurred to me to wear it that way because of the curvature of unit and harness but apparently other people do.
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10-20-2020, 01:56 PM #95Registered User
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Pieps Beacons under fire
At least in the US, they’re regulated by the Consumer Product Safety Commission. The CPSC was involved with the Ortovox beacon recall a couple of years ago:
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2018/or...communications
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10-20-2020, 02:02 PM #96Registered User
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10-20-2020, 02:07 PM #97
I will say Ortrovox handled my S1 recall very well and provided a new beacon.
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10-20-2020, 05:09 PM #98Gel-powered Tech bindings
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In that video, the user has inserted the beacon into the harness face out so that the lock switch is easier for him to depress, then he simultaneously moves the switch.
Such a series of deliberate actions could achieve a similar result with many other switch designs.
And his actions in that video are not a realistic simulation of what could actually happen in real use.
I'm not saying that the switch design is infallible, but that video is extremely contrived.
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10-20-2020, 05:13 PM #99Gel-powered Tech bindings
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That is indeed really messed up in a major way. Even more so for this model...
I would never let my touring partner or one of my avy course students do that, with any beacon model. I've even pointed that out to strangers that they might want to consider changing the orientation when I see a glimpse of a screen.
Bizarre that a user manual shows that!
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10-20-2020, 05:32 PM #100
I agree.
Looks like the Marketeers got into the manual.I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
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