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Thread: Whistler/Vail North 2020/2021
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12-11-2020, 11:53 AM #326
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12-11-2020, 03:44 PM #327Registered User
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At least it's cheaper than the island one as you only pay one way.
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12-11-2020, 03:59 PM #328Registered User
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SSC is a mix of rednecks and hippies but has more recently been invaded by townies as they cash out of the city.
All depends on what you're actually looking for there.
Would it be a permanent or just a "place to get away on weekends"?
It's crap for ski access. It's amazing for mountain biking.
Bowen almost functions like a Vancouver suburb these days, personally it's not far enough from the city to "get away" from much.
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12-11-2020, 06:36 PM #329
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12-11-2020, 11:23 PM #330
I would only live there if you are really into mountain biking. If you care about skiing it will suck. Just convince her of Squamish or Pemberton.
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12-12-2020, 09:42 AM #331Registered User
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Thing might have changed since I was a kid, but I was in same school district growing up as the kids on Bowen, and they had to take a ferry to the mainland every morning - that ferry (and making the last one) played a big role in lives. Good kids though, tightknit group and real sense of committee (back then).
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12-12-2020, 10:11 AM #332
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12-12-2020, 03:23 PM #333
Blackcomb alpine opened today ... 7th Heaven.
Last season, it opened Dec 26, two weeks later.
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12-12-2020, 05:44 PM #334Registered User
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12-12-2020, 08:26 PM #335
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12-12-2020, 09:45 PM #336
A mere 15 days for me. Only 2 were pow-less. Good start. Nice to have 7th open today. That steep ass skin to the top was gettin old.
Reserving the weekends before mid-week seems to be best. Next weekend is booked already - I couldn't book it because i blew my days on mon-fri. Lesson learned.
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12-13-2020, 09:07 AM #337Registered User
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It's also into the xmas season, I think from early Jan onward weekends will become easy to book again. I have to say - between the slight inconvenience of having to booking keeping the half-hearted at home, and the caps on capacity, so far this has been ok. I'm starting to think I'd be willing to pay a fair bit more on my pass if they kept the caps (and the reso) system.... Imagine how fast lines would be with the same crowds we're seeing now and no social distancing on the gondi!
That would help justify the Garibaldi resort too, spread the current whistler crowd between two hills.
If was getting to the point that I would avoid the resort on any predicted powders days that landed on Thurs - Sun, just cause the line-ups were too long (sleepers are a different matter).
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12-13-2020, 09:15 AM #338
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12-13-2020, 09:26 AM #339
Sunday 20th has no spaces for us. Duffy day!
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12-13-2020, 10:09 AM #340
A bit of a flare up between SAR and TEAMMS. It got spicy in the comments on South Coast Touring and then was deleted. The discussion is continuing on Reddit and elsewhere on the Fbook
https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouverhi..._sar_services/
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?s...5&id=700535054
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12-13-2020, 11:12 AM #341Registered User
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I dont pretend to understand the nuances of all that stuff, but after being around a couple of different guiding outfits, they were very excited to be able to call Blackcomb Heli and get it all covered.
To me it makes sense if you have an InReach already and are pushing the limits or having paying clients. To me i feel more comfortable calling these guys as its a paid service that i specifically pay into, rather than calling on SAR who are all volleys.
I feel theres a bit of stigma in calling SAR these days, like if you call them its an admission of guilt, and that you were being dumb.
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12-13-2020, 11:32 AM #342Registered User
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On the flip side of that, shit happens. For a paid service, people could feel more comfortable calling that outfit instead of good old SAR. Which is a shame. There's nothing wrong with an admission of guilt, if it's going to save a life. Period. This is exactly why SAR doesn't charge for their services, and the pro climber accident reference in that piece proves their point.
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12-13-2020, 11:50 AM #343Registered User
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I think the northshore/squamish/ whistler needs a dedicated paid SAR,
the gov needs to pay at least some of the SAR we already have as opposed to another seperate groupLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-13-2020, 12:31 PM #344
For the past 3 or 4 years, the BC gov has greatly increased funding to SAR groups. Unfortunately, that funding is not certain, and is disbursed on an annual basis, so long-term planning and investment is still a challenge.
I can not speak to the lower mainland and S2S area, the interior simply does not see that level of traffic. But in the remote interior, we do sometimes struggle with timely response for higher-level expertise. There was talk bout creating a regional model for specialized teams, that could possibly be at least partially paid, to ensure quick deployment to remote areas needing those services. A doubled edged sword as this might remove training funding from the local groups for those specialized services, like technical rope, avalanche response, and swiftwater.
Challenging conversations, not made simpler when volunteer SAR attracts very passionate type A personalities. I wish this particular topic could wait until after COVID-19 passes, though. Just managing training and regular business of keeping our societies functioning at peak capacity is a challenge right now. Which may be another reason the arguments being presented are so passionate.
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12-13-2020, 12:43 PM #345
I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I don’t believe it’s as simple as $50 a year getting you a prompt free rescue.
it’s my understanding that the $50 gets you the phone number to TEAMM. The rescue will be billed at full freight, so likely thousands of dollars. If you also purchase rescue insurance from another US based organization (another $30), then you are covered. But I believe that American based insurance company decides who they will task, and they generally task the local police. So in the S2S that’s the RCMP, who will then likely task SAR.
At the very least it seems that TEAMMS is being slightly disingenuous about how the whole thing works. Throw in long standing volunteers with perhaps some turf to protect, lots of hurt feelings and name calling thrown in to spice it up, and it’s a popcorn worthy shitstorm
Edit to add: there’s definitely a worthy case for TEAMMS in some settings. They’re able to fill a gap for industrial rescue. Also, commercial guides in the area currently can either self rescue or call SAR (or patrol). That’s not really the purpose of either of those organizations. These guides now have another option.
Lots of talented mountain rescue people on all sides of this discussion.Last edited by Clownshoe; 12-13-2020 at 02:04 PM.
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12-13-2020, 03:48 PM #346
You must of caught the millisecond it was available. It’s been unavailable to me all day but I’ve been refreshing periodically. Managed to snag the 19th eventually. Both days actually became available at one point but were gone before I could press confirm.
So Lee, if you really want Sunday, just keep refreshing.
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12-13-2020, 06:53 PM #347Registered User
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I’m in the refresh train for Sunday too. Wish I could swap it for the Saturday
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12-13-2020, 08:27 PM #348
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12-13-2020, 08:30 PM #349
Yup refreshing but not too butthurt if we can't get Sunday
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12-14-2020, 06:36 PM #350
....pray for snow then
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