Whistler/Vail North 2020/2021

[yeahman]

I've found a person who does DNA sampling in Whistler. I'll assume they have protocols

Just kidding. It seems unlikely they'll even need a feces sample to do a DNA test.

Well if you did it, that's pretty shitty, and if you didn't do it, then I'm sorry you have to deal with this shit.

[LeeLau]

Just kidding. It seems unlikely they'll even need a feces sample to do a DNA test.

Well if you did it, that's pretty shitty, and if you didn't do it, then I'm sorry you have to deal with this shit.

Thanks. I'm pretty happy to do what it takes to clear my name even if it seems like going to extreme lengths.

[nickel]

This is a truly crazy story. I have a difficult time finding a set of variables where an intelligent person would basically commit outdoor career sepooku in such a way. I find it more easily satisfies Occam's razor that one of the "stay at home" vigilantes from s2s road conditions did such a thing as a drive by. I don't know shit about fuck though.

[yeahman]

This is a truly crazy story. I have a difficult time finding a set of variables where an intelligent person would basically commit outdoor career sepooku in such a way. I find it more easily satisfies Occam's razor that one of the "stay at home" vigilantes from s2s road conditions did such a thing as a drive by. I don't know shit about fuck though.

Agree. Skiers doing this to other skiers over some snit regarding lines in the bc doesn't quite pass the smell test for me. But like you I don't know shit about fuck. I did notice Sylvie took down her FB post, probably a good idea because inflicting social media backlash on somebody without proof is no joke.

[LeeLau]

Agree. Skiers doing this to other skiers over some snit regarding lines in the bc doesn't quite pass the smell test for me. But like you I don't know shit about fuck. I did notice Sylvie took down her FB post, probably a good idea because inflicting social media backlash on somebody without proof is no joke.

Sylvie blocked me. I didn't know the post had been taken down. That's a shame as I am interested in addressing reasonable questions in public since I am being tried in public

[gramboh]

In the original thread I believe Ted Tempany and possibly others mentioned have vehicles poo smeared in recent years, so this has happened before at least once in the sea to sky. Agree on the smell test (heh), especially because there would’ve been what 30 minutes of time to cool down after the interaction before arriving at parking lot...

Truly bizarre situation.

[LeeLau]

I just hope she takes my offer to provide and test a DNA sample for which I'm happy to pay for. That's the best evidence I can offer

[shafty85]

Only 3 cars total m lot. They know the other vehicle. Lee &Sharon started a shit fight on the skin track. Theirs was the only vehicle gone. Wh would some random 3rd party stop in to do something as nasty as smearing shit on someone’s truck!? Logical deduction

I have no knowledge of this situation, but the idea that there are no crazy people out there who would do this is, well... incorrect. Plenty of crazy, nasty, deranged things happen every day in this strange world.

But it's always a good idea to publicly accuse someone of something based on a 'hunch'. Plus it shows how 'core someone is when you're an internet badass. The hunch could be wrong and someone's life could be irrevocably impacted, but carry on.

[Pseudonym]

More than a "hunch".
Here is the Facebook post from the victim:

[LeeLau]

Why would you need to ask Sharon? Did you not ski out together and remove your gear together at the parking lot?

Forgot to respond. Sharon was ahead. I kept my skins on too long.

[LeeLau]

More than a "hunch".
Here is the Facebook post from the victim:

Speaking more to circumstantial here's another from the victim. Screenshot from someone as I don't follow that group

I also did not talk about spreading poo on Sylvie's vehicle at the Steep Creek parking lot. It's my word against a friend of a friend Of course you will take her word against mine all things being equal.

I'm happy to provide DNA evidence I did not place poo on her vehicle. That offer remains outstanding.

[shafty85]

So, you're 'evidence' is someone's social media post of their hunch that it was Lee based on a previous interaction? Assuming this guy was away from his car for 4-8+hrs for a day tour, there's no-one else who could have done it? There are no people this guy has ever, in his life, had an argument with? I don't know Lee well at all, and I don't know the victim at all and so have no thoughts regarding him, but Lee seems to be intelligent enough to know that he'd be the number one suspect if he did this after the interaction the victim recounts. I'm not saying it wasn't Lee, just that there is no proof it was.

But again - best to be a badass and accuse people on social media without any actual proof.

[Pseudonym]

Assuming this guy was away from his car for 4-8+hrs for a day tour, there's no-one else who could have done it? There are no people this guy has ever, in his life, had an argument with? I don't know Lee well at all, and I don't know the victim at all and so have no thoughts regarding him.

It's actually a HER. And anyone in the whole Sea to Sky community that know her, or have ever had a personal interaction with her, would 100% say that in her lifetime she would not have ever had an argument with someone, or have someone who would have a grudge against her.
As her FB post states, when they were verbally abused by Lee and Sharron on the slope, She an her group stopped, and wanted to discuses the situation with Lee, who never appeared after the verbal abuse.

[LHutz Esq]

Does anyone else have a problem with the SAR card being played here?

I get it the victim and/or victims group are well respected good people. However, every other first responder org I have ever interacted with has a never divulge or talk about the individuals you assist policy. I would be summarily dissmissed from the fire department if I mentioned the name of any of the folks I assisted in the line of duty for example. I realize the victim here may not be the SAR person - but I think Mr. 11 may be and the same rule should apply should it not?

Full disclosure I have skied and biked with Sharon and Lee and shared some scotch with Sharon. I have no knowledge of the veracity of the claim. I only speak up because being the subject of a SAR event should not be a mark on ones character. And once having performed your duties in a first responder role your duties include shutting up about the persons involved outside that information required for the debrief does it not?

[shafty85]

It's actually a HER. And anyone in the whole Sea to Sky community that know her, or have ever had a personal interaction with her, would 100% say that in her lifetime she would not have ever had an argument with someone, or have someone who would have a grudge against her.
As her FB post states, when they were verbally abused by Lee and Sharron on the slope, She an her group stopped, and wanted to discuses the situation with Lee, who never appeared after the verbal abuse.

Well, there ya go - like I said, I don't know the victim. Anyways, long story short is there are more accusations than proof at this time.

Social media 'justice' is rarely warranted and ever more rarely just. If you have a valid/legitimate complaint against someone/people either take it up with them personally or with the appropriate authorities.

[The AD]

Yeah, I'm gonna go with innocent until proven guilty here. I agree the circumstantial evidence is strong, but Lee says it wasn't him or his wife. It seems like a really stupid thing to do within a tight knit community. Also it's fucking disgusting.

[Pseudonym]

Well, there ya go - like I said, I don't know the victim. Anyways, long story short is there are more accusations than proof at this time.

Social media 'justice' is rarely warranted and ever more rarely just. If you have a valid/legitimate complaint against someone/people either take it up with them personally or with the appropriate authorities.

Not once has the victim said any names on social media, its all the other people who have had negative encounters with this couple that have called out their names. Anywho it's in the hands of the RCMP now, so we will see how it shakes out in the legal system.

[shafty85]

Not once has the victim said any names on social media, its all the other people who have had negative encounters with this couple that have called out their names. Anywho it's in the hands of the RCMP now, so we will see how it shakes out in the legal system.

Well, apparently enough was said for those people to identify the alleged perpetrators and they were called out by other people. Both in the wrong, in my opinion, but YOMV.

Easy for yourself to say 'oh well, let it go' - you haven't been accused of something without proof and had your name dragged through the mud on social media. Typical social media warrior attitude - you've made your accusation and now want everyone to back off holding you accountable for any proof of said accusation. What happens if the RCMP identify someone else who did it? Or find there's no proof of who did it? Will you ensure that everyone who read the online accusations is made aware of the outcome? Will you somehow fix the damage to the accused's reputation?

And curious - from a legal perspective, how would peoples' previous interactions in any way influence the current legal proceedings? Would positive encounters offset negative ones? Unless there is a history of poop smearing, this seems bizarre, to my non-legal mind. "One day, in summer camp, Lee budged in line in the cafeteria. Your honor, this proves he is a poop smearer. The prosecution rests."

[Skier of the Hood]

Not once has the victim said any names on social media

It’s apparent she has told others who have done it for her. Don’t know any of the parties just a city breezy stuck at home due to a thick rain crust, but this sure reads too circumstantial to drag someone’s name through the mud. Could just as easily been a skid who rolled through and felt more like smearing poop then smashing windows that day. There is perhaps some underlying whis loc vs Vancouver invader tension here as well.

[Dee Hubbs]

There is perhaps some underlying whis loc vs Vancouver invader tension here as well.

Knowing both parties, this has nothing to do with local vs Vancouver.

[teamdirt]

Just putting it out there-Steep creek is a sacred place for many a Pemberton/Whistler locals that have lost friends...there has always been a territorial issue over this zone

[Dee Hubbs]

Just putting it out there-Steep creek is a sacred place for many a Pemberton/Whistler locals that have lost friends...there has always been a territorial issue over this zone

Dirt, this happened at the salt sheds trailhead to Rhor.

[Pseudonym]

Just putting it out there-Steep creek is a sacred place for many a Pemberton/Whistler locals that have lost friends...there has always been a territorial issue over this zone

Many on here are well aware of the sacred nature of areas in that valley.
Lee has had different issues in Steep Creek area, many years ago certain groups have asked him not come back to huts in those areas.

[teamdirt]

Dirt, this happened at the salt sheds trailhead to Rhor.

Thx for clarification- missed that detail. I wasn’t interested in reading the whole novel was waiting for the movie...

[grinch]

No dog in this fight but its best to take your daily crunch after morning joe at home. Sometimes thats just the precursor and im running for the bush not too long after i start up the skintrack(old age). Rarely if ever have a crunch to give at the end of the day. Those calories are used up

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