This sounds like the beginning of the end of Mikaela's racing days.

[lepowski]

Who can we blame the most? The ambulance chasing attorneys or the corporate greed? Or just 'merica in general.

I dunno, the density of ski areas & population helps. If Verbier raises to 200 everyone will just go to Chamonix. Same dynamics that had Vail competing with Winter Park for affordable season passes I guess.

In the Alps the ski stations just get you up the mountain. Nobody greeting you in the liftline with hot chocolate and no ski patrol securing the boundary. And yep no liability insurance. All that s**t adds up.

Anyways, young Mikaela will be back...

[neufox47]

Jordan HAD to take a year off...just sayin

Says who? Internet rumors?

Also shame on all you catty fuckers rooting for her downfall. Humans love to build people up then watch them fall.

[TahoeJ]

Says who? Internet rumors?

Also shame on all you catty fuckers rooting for her downfall. Humans love to build people up then watch them fall.

He was very obviously referring to the MJ suspension conspiracy in a joking way.

As for rooting for Mikaela's downfall, are you referring to a different thread? I don't see a single post suggesting that. Mostly just understanding why she might burn out.

[~mikey b]

if you’re following ski racing, a young lady I know, Keely Cashman, is starting at Soelden tomorrow

super cool kid from an awesome family who started out at the mighty Dodge Ridge

go go Keely!

[uglymoney]

No NBC Gold Snow Pass this year (as of now).

Just saw this to option to watch Soelden.

https://live.oesv.tv/

https://skiracing.com/in-the-nick-of...adcast-option/

Saturday, Oct. 17, Women’s Alpine GS: Run 1 – 4:00 AM EST / Run 2 – 7:00 AM EST
Sunday, Oct. 18, Men’s Alpine GS: Run 1 – 4:00 AM EST / Run 2 – 7:15 AM EST






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[~mikey b]

thanks!

[teledad]

The cultural difference between skiing in NA and Europe is crazy. Lift tickets at the best resorts in the Alps are like 80 bucks. The Euros would freak out if they had to pay 200 bucks to ski. It's an Everyman sport there, like softball is here or something.

But a season pass at Verbier is 1450 CHF (about $1600). A 4 Vallees pass is 1560 CHF. Engelberg-Titlis is 950 CHF. Seems similar to the US before the advent of cheap Ikon and Vail passes (and other resorts trying to compete with them).

[SlidewaysShooter]

Who said Shiffrin isn't a very nice person and anything short of a model athlete? The Tiger Woods comparison shows that raising a kid from birth to excel at a sport, and putting a kid in $55,000 a year boarding school at the age of 13 where their entire every day existence revolves around excelling in that sport can lead to burnout and general depression. This is not an attack on her character.

And speaking of Tiger, can you blame any of his transgressions on his overbearing upbringing resulting in mental illness?

I wouldn't tie the money to the issues you are trying to talk about. Burke even with that price tag is probably only on par with some of the more expensive Northeast/Cali day schools and its a much different place. Its not Loomis or Avon or Deerfield or Lawrenceville. I have met and know BMA people. I also know quite a few 10 schools people... much different people. Agree that the singular focus on sports nowadays is not a good thing.. ski racing, lacrosse, soccer, whatever. But you seem hung up on the school and money... thats not it.

[billyk]

Where do they hand out hot chocolate in lift lines??? I need this information.

[margotron]

didn't all the skiers just do that?
seriously at this level with no serious injuries she still scores more points than the entire Canadian ski team combined, suck it up and ski, you're getting paid to do a sport that most people have to pay for...

spoken like a man who has never competed in a sport at a professional level

[eug]

She should pull a Jordan and take a year off.

Try softball?

[eug]

On a serious note, I wish her well and she should do what feels right... If she took care of finances, she can ski or write poetry or travel or whatever. When it feels right she might come back or not. Too many people doing something because that is what is expected. If she wants to get off the hamster wheel and figure things out, good for her.

Crazy sports parents on the other hand I have no patience for. Those who pretend to have all the answers regarding what is right for their kids - nobody has a magic 8 ball.

[Shredhead]

She was one of, if not the most, dominant sports figures in history. She can do whatever she wants.
She’s the epitome of what sports figures should be.

[old goat]

She was one of, if not the most, dominant sports figures in history. She can do whatever she wants.
She’s the epitome of what sports figures should be.

I don't know. She doesn't have a lifetime .367 average.

[ZomblibulaX]

I don't know. She doesn't have a lifetime .367 average.

66 wins in 176 WC starts. .375.

[old goat]

66 wins in 176 WC starts. .375.

good one. But can she hit the curve ball?

[Danno]

66 wins in 176 WC starts. .375.

That's totally bonkers.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

66 wins in 176 WC starts. .375.

Stong post.

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[waxoff]

66 wins in 176 WC starts. .375.

That is nothing short of effin impressive! I mean, a racer with 66/175 top tens would have been considered seriously good. Somebody with 66/176 podiums would have been considered an ace. 66/176 WINS is out of this world!

Edited to add: OTOH, Ingemar Stenmark's 86/230(?) Isn't really bad either..!

[altasnob]

Just curious how that stat compares to others? Easy to find total world cup victories but I can't find total world cup starts anywhere? Assume the win percentage for tech only skiers like Hirscher and Tomba, or speed event only, like Vonn, may be even higher.

[schindlerpiste]

Probably his-ski.com

For by way of comparison LV has 395 starts, 82 wins and 137 podiums
https://www.fis-ski.com/DB/general/a...68&type=career

Here is Vreni Schneider: 173 starts, 55 wins, 101 podiums
https://www.fis-ski.com/DB/general/a...68&type=career

[Mofro261]

Just curious how that stat compares to others? Easy to find total world cup victories but I can't find total world cup starts anywhere? Assume the win percentage for tech only skiers like Hirscher and Tomba, or speed event only, like Vonn, may be even higher.

Should all be accessible off of the FIS official site. Select an athlete and career stats are available.

Anne Marie Moser: 175 starts, 62 wins, 114 podiums.

[old goat]

Just as long as you don't post garbage stats like the ones football announcers love to use to fill dead air time (ie most of a football game.) I don't want to read "most 2nd place finishes in first 37 SG starts".

[ZomblibulaX]

Well, let’s see:

Most wins in a season by any racer
Most wins in a single calendar year by any racer
Youngest Olympic SL champion
Youngest to 50 WC wins, male or female
Four consecutive SL world championships, never been done before
Only racer to win in all six disciplines, male or female (but parallel is new, SG is only since ‘85?)
Most SL wins, male or female
Most prize money in a single season
Highest average points in a season
Highest average points in career
Out of only ten women who have ever won ten or more times in a single season, Shiffrin is three of them.

You mean those kinds of stats?

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Well, let’s see:

Most wins in a season by any racer
Most wins in a single calendar year by any racer
Youngest Olympic SL champion
Youngest to 50 WC wins, male or female
Four consecutive SL world championships, never been done before
Only racer to win in all six disciplines, male or female (but parallel is new, SG is only since ‘85?)
Most SL wins, male or female
Most prize money in a single season
Highest average points in a season
Highest average points in career
Out of only ten women who have ever won ten or more times in a single season, Shiffrin is three of them.

You mean those kinds of stats?

What's about her QBR? WAR? RPM? You know... real stats.