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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Who can we blame the most? The ambulance chasing attorneys or the corporate greed? Or just 'merica in general.
    I dunno, the density of ski areas & population helps. If Verbier raises to 200 everyone will just go to Chamonix. Same dynamics that had Vail competing with Winter Park for affordable season passes I guess.

    In the Alps the ski stations just get you up the mountain. Nobody greeting you in the liftline with hot chocolate and no ski patrol securing the boundary. And yep no liability insurance. All that s**t adds up.

    Anyways, young Mikaela will be back...

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    This sounds like the beginning of the end of Mikaela's racing days.

    Quote Originally Posted by wstdeep View Post
    Jordan HAD to take a year off...just sayin
    Says who? Internet rumors?

    Also shame on all you catty fuckers rooting for her downfall. Humans love to build people up then watch them fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Says who? Internet rumors?

    Also shame on all you catty fuckers rooting for her downfall. Humans love to build people up then watch them fall.
    He was very obviously referring to the MJ suspension conspiracy in a joking way.

    As for rooting for Mikaela's downfall, are you referring to a different thread? I don't see a single post suggesting that. Mostly just understanding why she might burn out.

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    This sounds like the beginning of the end of Mikaela's racing days.

    if you’re following ski racing, a young lady I know, Keely Cashman, is starting at Soelden tomorrow

    super cool kid from an awesome family who started out at the mighty Dodge Ridge

    go go Keely!
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    No NBC Gold Snow Pass this year (as of now).

    Just saw this to option to watch Soelden.

    https://live.oesv.tv/

    https://skiracing.com/in-the-nick-of...adcast-option/

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    thanks!
    I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lepowski View Post
    The cultural difference between skiing in NA and Europe is crazy. Lift tickets at the best resorts in the Alps are like 80 bucks. The Euros would freak out if they had to pay 200 bucks to ski. It's an Everyman sport there, like softball is here or something.
    But a season pass at Verbier is 1450 CHF (about $1600). A 4 Vallees pass is 1560 CHF. Engelberg-Titlis is 950 CHF. Seems similar to the US before the advent of cheap Ikon and Vail passes (and other resorts trying to compete with them).

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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    Who said Shiffrin isn't a very nice person and anything short of a model athlete? The Tiger Woods comparison shows that raising a kid from birth to excel at a sport, and putting a kid in $55,000 a year boarding school at the age of 13 where their entire every day existence revolves around excelling in that sport can lead to burnout and general depression. This is not an attack on her character.

    And speaking of Tiger, can you blame any of his transgressions on his overbearing upbringing resulting in mental illness?
    I wouldn't tie the money to the issues you are trying to talk about. Burke even with that price tag is probably only on par with some of the more expensive Northeast/Cali day schools and its a much different place. Its not Loomis or Avon or Deerfield or Lawrenceville. I have met and know BMA people. I also know quite a few 10 schools people... much different people. Agree that the singular focus on sports nowadays is not a good thing.. ski racing, lacrosse, soccer, whatever. But you seem hung up on the school and money... thats not it.

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    Where do they hand out hot chocolate in lift lines??? I need this information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waxman View Post
    didn't all the skiers just do that?
    seriously at this level with no serious injuries she still scores more points than the entire Canadian ski team combined, suck it up and ski, you're getting paid to do a sport that most people have to pay for...
    spoken like a man who has never competed in a sport at a professional level
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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    She should pull a Jordan and take a year off.
    Try softball?

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    On a serious note, I wish her well and she should do what feels right... If she took care of finances, she can ski or write poetry or travel or whatever. When it feels right she might come back or not. Too many people doing something because that is what is expected. If she wants to get off the hamster wheel and figure things out, good for her.

    Crazy sports parents on the other hand I have no patience for. Those who pretend to have all the answers regarding what is right for their kids - nobody has a magic 8 ball.

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    She was one of, if not the most, dominant sports figures in history. She can do whatever she wants.
    She’s the epitome of what sports figures should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredhead View Post
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    She was one of, if not the most, dominant sports figures in history. She can do whatever she wants.
    She’s the epitome of what sports figures should be.
    I don't know. She doesn't have a lifetime .367 average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    I don't know. She doesn't have a lifetime .367 average.
    66 wins in 176 WC starts. .375.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomblibulaX View Post
    66 wins in 176 WC starts. .375.
    good one. But can she hit the curve ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomblibulaX View Post
    66 wins in 176 WC starts. .375.
    That's totally bonkers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomblibulaX View Post
    66 wins in 176 WC starts. .375.
    Stong post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomblibulaX View Post
    66 wins in 176 WC starts. .375.
    That is nothing short of effin impressive! I mean, a racer with 66/175 top tens would have been considered seriously good. Somebody with 66/176 podiums would have been considered an ace. 66/176 WINS is out of this world!

    Edited to add: OTOH, Ingemar Stenmark's 86/230(?) Isn't really bad either..!

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    Just curious how that stat compares to others? Easy to find total world cup victories but I can't find total world cup starts anywhere? Assume the win percentage for tech only skiers like Hirscher and Tomba, or speed event only, like Vonn, may be even higher.

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    Probably his-ski.com

    For by way of comparison LV has 395 starts, 82 wins and 137 podiums
    https://www.fis-ski.com/DB/general/a...68&type=career

    Here is Vreni Schneider: 173 starts, 55 wins, 101 podiums
    https://www.fis-ski.com/DB/general/a...68&type=career
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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    Just curious how that stat compares to others? Easy to find total world cup victories but I can't find total world cup starts anywhere? Assume the win percentage for tech only skiers like Hirscher and Tomba, or speed event only, like Vonn, may be even higher.
    Should all be accessible off of the FIS official site. Select an athlete and career stats are available.

    Anne Marie Moser: 175 starts, 62 wins, 114 podiums.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

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    Just as long as you don't post garbage stats like the ones football announcers love to use to fill dead air time (ie most of a football game.) I don't want to read "most 2nd place finishes in first 37 SG starts".

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    Well, let’s see:

    Most wins in a season by any racer
    Most wins in a single calendar year by any racer
    Youngest Olympic SL champion
    Youngest to 50 WC wins, male or female
    Four consecutive SL world championships, never been done before
    Only racer to win in all six disciplines, male or female (but parallel is new, SG is only since ‘85?)
    Most SL wins, male or female
    Most prize money in a single season
    Highest average points in a season
    Highest average points in career
    Out of only ten women who have ever won ten or more times in a single season, Shiffrin is three of them.

    You mean those kinds of stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomblibulaX View Post
    Well, let’s see:

    Most wins in a season by any racer
    Most wins in a single calendar year by any racer
    Youngest Olympic SL champion
    Youngest to 50 WC wins, male or female
    Four consecutive SL world championships, never been done before
    Only racer to win in all six disciplines, male or female (but parallel is new, SG is only since ‘85?)
    Most SL wins, male or female
    Most prize money in a single season
    Highest average points in a season
    Highest average points in career
    Out of only ten women who have ever won ten or more times in a single season, Shiffrin is three of them.

    You mean those kinds of stats?
    What's about her QBR? WAR? RPM? You know... real stats.

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