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    Netflix: The social Dilemma (2020)

    Did anybody watch this.

    The algorithm suggested this documentary to me. first time i watched something from the algorithm suggested... and it told my how bad the algorithm is and how well it knows me.....
    buhh


    so is this flick propaganda or reality???
    What do you think. it is scary and understandable.

    It talks about that the internet/smartphone is a passivier and polarizes....


    It is a good and scary watch. basicly it tells kids: toss your phones and get a life.

    just we adults have to show them how it is done. even if it makes us look old fashioned.



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    I thought it just reinforced my opinion about social media and the internet in general. Itís not propaganda, all the folks interviewed are heavy hitters in the tech world. I think it should be required viewing for anyone that wants a smartphone or computer.


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    The Social Dilemma, by contrast, doesnít offer a terribly convincing portrayal of life without its fictional Facebook clone. It assumes that if you werenít scrolling through your feed, youíd be drawn to spontaneous tÍte-ŗ-tÍtes or reading Zuboffís 700-page sociopolitical tome The Age of Surveillance CapitalismÖ instead of tabloids, telephones, movies, television, shopping centers, pornography, talk radio, internet forums, or any of the million other activities that were previously blamed for killing good books and conversation.
    https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/4/21...dia-algorithms

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    Definitely required watching.


    For everyone


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    So are you saying that these social media platforms do more good than harm?


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    Good recommendation.

    I hate to think where this takes us all in 20 yrs. it canít be good.


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    Ha. Watched this last night with the wife. Weíre both kinda freaked out now. Scary to think where this could all lead from multiple angles.
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    Do they mention TGR, specifically the Padded Room, at any point?
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    The scary shit is that people are just fed news stories thatís tailored to their views so they are becoming more polarized and entrenched in their views.

    They used climate change example I think. Based on your likes and comments, what you are viewing, and friends they already know you may be a climate denier so you are just fed stories and news articles enforcing this view.

    Then the people who support and believe in climate change are fed their own news.

    Both Those groups thinks everyone gets the same information and canít understand how someone canít be on their side with all the proof. Why is the other side so stupid!?!? Then the anger and division sets in.

    The above is all well known but to hear the inside workings is interesting.

    Civil war may be too much of a stretch but it definitely explains a lot of the unrest in the world.

    Zuckerburgh should be held accountable in some way for Myanmar. I mean what CEO can be directly connected to genocide and not even get a slap on the wrist?

    Fucked up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    The scary shit is that people are just fed news stories thatís tailored to their views so they are becoming more polarized and entrenched in their views.

    They used climate change example I think. Based on your likes and comments, what you are viewing, and friends they already know you may be a climate denier so you are just fed stories and news articles enforcing this view.

    Then the people who support and believe in climate change are fed their own news.

    Both Those groups thinks everyone gets the same information and canít understand how someone canít be on their side with all the proof. Why is the other side so stupid!?!? Then the anger and division sets in.

    The above is all well known but to hear the inside workings is interesting.

    Civil war may be too much of a stretch but it definitely explains a lot of the unrest in the world.

    Zuckerburgh should be held accountable in some way for Myanmar. I mean what CEO can be directly connected to genocide and not even get a slap on the wrist?

    Fucked up.


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    I like the clip where Zuckerturd says the way to fix the problem is more AI.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    I like the clip where Zuckerturd says the way to fix the problem is more AI.


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    This guy controls the news 2 billion(?) plus people see. Fuck.


    https://youtu.be/E5yyInwI7tw?list=PL...O1n1DL72GUGB2W


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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post

    Zuckerburgh should be held accountable in some way for Myanmar. I mean what CEO can be directly connected to genocide and not even get a slap on the wrist?

    Fucked up.

    Bayer aspirin is still on the shelves everywhere.

    That being said, I would love nothing more than to see that dweeb drawn and quartered.
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    if people are stupid enough to not understand the importance of how to consume news it is not the fault of social media. It is the fault of our education system. If the Bill of Rights came up for a plebiscite in the United States it is unlikely it would pass.

    There is no easy answer for this. The social media/AI genie is not going back in the bottle. I think it relates to the social divide in the country in regards to college and not college educated and rural vs non rural america.

    Trump isn't the cause of the divide in this country but the end result. There is a anti science and fact element in this country he has ridden to power

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    I'd love to get ride of Facebook, but how would I sell my random shit? I guess we could all go back to garage sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post

    That being said, I would love nothing more than to see that dweeb drawn and quartered.
    Yeah but who don't you want to see drawn and quartered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nordekette View Post
    Did anybody watch this.

    The algorithm suggested this documentary to me.
    Haven't seen it but the irony is real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
    if people are stupid enough to not understand the importance of how to consume news it is not the fault of social media. It is the fault of our education system. If the Bill of Rights came up for a plebiscite in the United States it is unlikely it would pass.

    There is no easy answer for this. The social media/AI genie is not going back in the bottle. I think it relates to the social divide in the country in regards to college and not college educated and rural vs non rural america.

    Trump isn't the cause of the divide in this country but the end result. There is a anti science and fact element in this country he has ridden to power
    Did you watch the movie?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Did you watch the movie?


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    Probably not.


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    Probably part of the Extreme Middle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    I like the clip where Zuckerturd says the way to fix the problem is more AI.


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    I guess we know what he's seeing in his feed.

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    Excellent.

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    Meh - people used to choose what newspaper they read, what radio station to listen to, etc based on how it reported on the info that reflected their values or trusted either ABC, NBC, or CBS to tell them the 6 oíclock news. 24 hour cable news exacerbated this.

    Financial powerhouses have manipulated elections and politics in countries for years.

    Everyone thinks the time the live in is the absolute best and absolute worst that has ever existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    Meh - people used to choose what newspaper they read, what radio station to listen to, etc based on how it reported on the info that reflected their values or trusted either ABC, NBC, or CBS to tell them the 6 o’clock news. 24 hour cable news exacerbated this.

    Financial powerhouses have manipulated elections and politics in countries for years.

    Everyone thinks the time the live in is the absolute best and absolute worst that has ever existed.
    While true, and I agree, the social networks have magnified, in most cases, the worst of humanity. We're constantly baited to stay engaged and the algorithms, while not specifically designed to shove shit in our face, the human condition does that for us and the algorithms follow suit, roughly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    Meh - people used to choose what newspaper they read, what radio station to listen to, etc based on how it reported on the info that reflected their values or trusted either ABC, NBC, or CBS to tell them the 6 oíclock news. 24 hour cable news exacerbated this.

    Financial powerhouses have manipulated elections and politics in countries for years.

    Everyone thinks the time the live in is the absolute best and absolute worst that has ever existed.
    You watched the movie right?

    Itís way more than what news stories are fed to people.

    The shit is changing human behavior at its core.

    170% increase in pre-teen girl suicide attempts since 2009 for example.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    You watched the movie right?

    It’s way more than what news stories are fed to people.

    The shit is changing human behavior at its core.

    170% increase in pre-teen girl suicide attempts since 2009 for example.


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    I watched the movie last night but don't remember it referencing a single, peer-reviewed study to support that correlation.

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