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  1. #101
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    I'm neither a dentist nor a forest resources management guy, but my understanding is we've been too effective at suppressing wildfires, so when they do take off there's a lot more fuel, and they burn hotter and spread more than would have been the case 200 years ago. So these particular fires likely wouldn't have occurred without human intervention.

    Stay safe Oregon mags! Masking tape and plastic drop cloth has helped with smoke proofing some of the key spots (windows, fireplace) in my drafty old bungalow. I have a furnace filter taped to a box fan and the fucker is running for all it's worth, and it's helping -- I now have just a hint of delicious smoke aroma inside the house. Good thing because it would be hard to get through my busy day of TGR posting if I constantly smelled barbecue :-/

    Also, if you're in the PDX metro area and you haven't signed up for phone alerts from your county, this might be a good time to do that - you can signup here: https://www.publicalerts.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pdx View Post
    Also, if you're in the PDX metro area and you haven't signed up for phone alerts from your county, this might be a good time to do that - you can signup here: https://www.publicalerts.org/
    thx for that
    i didn't know about it

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    I feel like I'm smoking a pack of Camels an hour and that's inside the house. What's next. Oh right a Nov. election.
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    might be time to use a n95 at home if you have one
    i've had headaches & I'm pretty far from the real trouble here
    i fueled up today -- it was self serve because of air quality

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    Unlikely I'll sit in my house with a mask on. Went outside and it didn't take long for a headache and watering eyes. Temp is staying cool with the lack of solar radiation.
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    AQI map shows Sisters is a hellhole atm

    hope you guys are safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_pdx View Post
    I'm neither a dentist nor a forest resources management guy, but my understanding is we've been too effective at suppressing wildfires, so when they do take off there's a lot more fuel, and they burn hotter and spread more than would have been the case 200 years ago. So these particular fires likely wouldn't have occurred without human intervention
    Fire suppression tactics are a factor. Climate change equally or more of a factor. See Wildfire 2020 thread in Padded Room for good discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by ::: ::: View Post
    AQI map shows Sisters is a hellhole atm

    hope you guys are safe
    It's just a little slice of Paradise. A view of 3 Sisters (7-9 miles to SW) at 1030 from the Elk Farm/Cole Ranch on Hwy 242. (Cross post from Wildfire 2020 thread)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post
    Fire suppression tactics are a factor. Climate change equally or more of a factor.
    Science does not agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Needles View Post
    Science does not agree.
    Science sez you are a trolling clown
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post
    Science sez you are a trolling clown
    It also says you are obese.

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    THIS MESSAGE IS HIDDEN BECAUSE SHARON NEEDLES IS ON YOUR IGNORE LIST.
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    TBSsux rising from the ashes like a shit phoenix?

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    No, but TBS is a thing skinned individual.

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    Watching the AQI climb is a poor fucking substitute for sitting at the monitor and checking on snowfall totals. 738 PPM in White Salmon last time I looked. Come on winter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by river59 View Post
    Watching the AQI climb is a poor fucking substitute for sitting at the monitor and checking on snowfall totals. 738 PPM in White Salmon last time I looked. Come on winter!
    Yes, the fun and games we are reduced to. You win this round i believe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by river59 View Post
    Watching the AQI climb is a poor fucking substitute for sitting at the monitor and checking on snowfall totals. 738 PPM in White Salmon last time I looked. Come on winter!
    Ah the simple things in life.
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    stay safe everyone. smoke gets in your eyes so you have a good excuse if you have been tearing up lately. praying for everyone who is not as fortunate as me. huge thank you to everyone working day and night to hold the line around Silver Falls and my hometown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Needles View Post
    Science does not agree.
    a newbie troll agw denier, how cute and original

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    Sorry shorty but climate change is very real.

    And yes the frequency of favorable fire weather will continue to rise.

    But weather is not the determining factor when it comes to fire size. Fuel is.

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    But weather is not the determining factor when it comes to fire size. Fuel is.

    That's not completely true. You can have all the fuel needed for a fire but without favorable weather parameters, no bueno.
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    Steep
    instead of being an intentionally provocative asshole
    how about sharing a bit about the proximity of fires in the eug/springfield zone?
    are you in zone 1?

    [this is not the climate change thread, but itís at least the local OR thread]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Needles View Post
    Sorry shorty but climate change is very real.

    And yes the frequency of favorable fire weather will continue to rise.

    But weather is not the determining factor when it comes to fire size. Fuel is.
    that's not true in the slightest. you're right about fuels in that is plays a big part, but weather is the real driver of what a fire is actually going to do. low humidity, warm temps and the right wind make = bad. that's why you have red flag warnings just the ones that lead up to this event and before eagle creek fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Needles View Post
    Sorry shorty but climate change is very real.

    And yes the frequency of favorable fire weather will continue to rise.

    But weather is not the determining factor when it comes to fire size. Fuel is.
    buh bye cunt chunks, troll away chicken shit

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