Vail Resorts RESERVED SKIING! It's gonna be EPIC!

**doebedoe** · 09-22-2020, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Hott Butt Mud

Alterra = RTP One (aka Active) for the most part, not really Skidata. Skidata is just the gates that scan the RFID. The backend database infrastructure system is RTP One. Ikon Pass is a conglomerate of all of the resorts (Alterra owned and partners). Ikon Pass partner resorts all have their own systems for the backend infrastructure and all have an Ikon Pass appliance at the resort which integrates the Ikon Pass with the resorts system. Each time someone visits an Ikon Pass partner resort, their customer information is shared with the resort from Alterra.

Good to know -- I don't know their stack, just gleaning what I can from things that have hit my inbox.

**old goat** · 09-22-2020, 11:05 AM

Who knew you had to hire a CPA in order to go skiing or not.

**Jtlange** · 09-25-2020, 09:27 AM

Well, Epic pass sales are up 18% from last year at this time. I think the reservation system is going to be interesting. Also, they dont have a breakdown of pass type bc a 4 Day Epic pass counts in that number.

https://coloradosun.com/2020/09/24/v...s-coronavirus/

**The SnowShow** · 09-25-2020, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Jtlange

Well, Epic pass sales are up 18% from last year at this time. I think the reservation system is going to be interesting. Also, they dont have a breakdown of pass type bc a 4 Day Epic pass counts in that number.

https://coloradosun.com/2020/09/24/v...s-coronavirus/

Really surprised. I think people are going to lose their shit when reality hits and they can’t make weekend reservations whenever they want. Maybe I’m wrong.

**Jtlange** · 09-25-2020, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by The SnowShow

Really surprised. I think people are going to lose their shit when reality hits and they can’t make weekend reservations whenever they want. Maybe I’m wrong.

There is going to be a revolt that first big weekend powder day that people wont be able to ski like they want to. Then the aggro bros who didnt get a spot are gonna be all aggro in the BC, and then something is going to slide.

**paulster2626** · 09-25-2020, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Jtlange

Well, Epic pass sales are up 18% from last year at this time. I think the reservation system is going to be interesting. Also, they dont have a breakdown of pass type bc a 4 Day Epic pass counts in that number.

https://coloradosun.com/2020/09/24/v...s-coronavirus/

I bet a lot of people bought in to preserve their credits from last season (I did), and if they don't get their 7 reservation dates by December 7, will opt to roll over the purchase price until next winter (I will).

A lot of people just buying to save the sunk cost, I imagine.

**The SnowShow** · 09-25-2020, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Jtlange

There is going to be a revolt that first big weekend powder day that people wont be able to ski like they want to. Then the aggro bros who didnt get a spot are gonna be all aggro in the BC, and then something is going to slide.

Guaran-fucking-teed.
There could be fights in the lift line. Aggro millennials don’t like being told no, you can’t access the mountain today, even though there’s 18” fresh.

**old goat** · 09-25-2020, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by The SnowShow

Guaran-fucking-teed.
There could be fights in the lift line. Aggro millennials don’t like being told no, you can’t access the mountain today, even though there’s 18” fresh.

If there's an RFID gate they're not getting through. If not and they start a fight with a lift op they'll lose their pass and probably be banned for life. If they refuse to leave a closed RFID gate there will be hundreds of skiers with reservations to deal with. If they try to uphill to an unmonitored lift and caught --banned. If they show up expecting to lift ski and then leave for the BC, the parking will be gone when they get there. There might be a few bad actors but word will get around quick.
If the only skiing you love is powder you aren't a skier.

Nobody loves this pandemic, except maybe Xi. If people can't deal with a screwed up ski season maybe they'd prefer to be in a 2 bedroom apartment in Queens with a wife, 4 kids, their parents and inlaws, taking the subway to their essential job. Fuck 'em.

**galibier_numero_un** · 09-25-2020, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by old goat

Who knew you had to hire a CPA in order to go skiing or not.

Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo;

As your attorney, I advise you to take a hit out of the little brown bottle in my shaving kit.

https://youtu.be/m6kFCNsnQpQ

**old goat** · 09-25-2020, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un

https://youtu.be/m6kFCNsnQpQ

Which one am I supposed to be?

**Greenstateofmind** · 09-25-2020, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by old goat

If there's an RFID gate they're not getting through. If not and they start a fight with a lift op they'll lose their pass and probably be banned for life. If they refuse to leave a closed RFID gate there will be hundreds of skiers with reservations to deal with. If they try to uphill to an unmonitored lift and caught --banned. If they show up expecting to lift ski and then leave for the BC, the parking will be gone when they get there. There might be a few bad actors but word will get around quick.
If the only skiing you love is powder you aren't a skier.

Nobody loves this pandemic, except maybe Xi. If people can't deal with a screwed up ski season maybe they'd prefer to be in a 2 bedroom apartment in Queens with a wife, 4 kids, their parents and inlaws, taking the subway to their essential job. Fuck 'em.

This is pretty good you ole’ goat

**galibier_numero_un** · 09-25-2020, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by old goat

Which one am I supposed to be?

Well, since you're in search of professional consultation to navigate the Epic terrain, you must not be the lawyer ;-)

... Thom

**old goat** · 09-25-2020, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un

Well, since you're in search of professional consultation to navigate the Epic terrain, you must not be the lawyer ;-)

... Thom

And my hairline is the same as "Hunter's".

**Ottime** · 09-25-2020, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by paulster2626

I bet a lot of people bought in to preserve their credits from last season (I did), and if they don't get their 7 reservation dates by December 7, will opt to roll over the purchase price until next winter (I will).

A lot of people just buying to save the sunk cost, I imagine.

But it value that rolls over. Not the pass. You are not saving anything in 21/22.

You paid $X for 20/21, and then defer $X toward a 21/22 pass. The pass itself does not defer to next season. Just what you paid.

**~mikey b** · 09-25-2020, 11:32 PM

wait what?

makes zero sense

**Ottime** · 09-26-2020, 09:30 PM

They will defer the amount of money paid for your pass toward your pass purchase in 21/22. You did not pay the “credit” amount. That does not defer. No matter what, you pay full price in 21/22

**paulster2626** · 09-27-2020, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Ottime

They will defer the amount of money paid for your pass toward your pass purchase in 21/22. You did not pay the “credit” amount. That does not defer. No matter what, you pay full price in 21/22

Nope. It’s right there on their website.

If you receive a refund and used your Pass Holder Credit from the 2019/20 season, you may be eligible to rollover that credit (or a portion thereof) and apply it towards the purchase of a pass of equal or greater value for the 2021/2022 ski and ride season

Like said, in order to lock in any credits for 21/22, I had to buy a pass this year.

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**Canada1** · 10-02-2020, 10:12 AM

does anyone know (first hand) if family of the employee is exempt from sign up. I read that earlier here, but have been unable to confirm?

**gimpy** · 10-02-2020, 10:23 AM

^^^ only if they are a dependant of the employee pass holder.

**Canada1** · 10-02-2020, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by gimpy

^^^ only if they are a dependant of the employee pass holder.

Perfect! Thanks!

**ChaseBrooklyn** · 10-02-2020, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by old goat

If the only skiing you love is powder you aren't a skier.

Unless you’re a powder skier.

**BC.** · 10-02-2020, 07:37 PM

I am getting emails from them about my credits and having to “accept” credit terms and agreements....I’m getting pissed at all this “small print” bullshit they are piling on here at the last minute. I opened up the link, and there was nothing to click to “accept” anything....so I am becoming very skeptical of the whole thing.

I have a feeling I’m/ we are going to get screwed here.....and they are not going to follow through with these credits they offered....and I’m gonna get charged full blast in November.

Anybody else feel they are making it so confusing, that we are all gonna get screwed in the end?....or am I just paranoid?

At this point, this small print shit has me wishing I totally should of just cancelled back in September.....

/rant

**Benny Profane** · 10-03-2020, 09:04 AM

Well, you know the ski experience will suck this winter after they laid off those 60 marketing people. How will the ski hills operate without them?

**Ottime** · 10-03-2020, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by paulster2626

Nope. It’s right there on their website.

Like said, in order to lock in any credits for 21/22, I had to buy a pass this year.

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Well fuck then. I was told the opposite in a chat. I would have bought them.