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  1. #651
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    2021 Bikes That Make Your Shorts Tighter.

    I’m hoping in the next few seasons I can get up to Gifford Pinchot and get some deep megavert days ... for which a Spur-class bike would be perfect.

    Down here in the south / upper Willamette we have some longass deep rides where that class of bike is great, like the O Leary Ridge to King Castle epic, or the Old Cascades Crest Pyramids loop, or full Bunchgrass to Oakridge, etc.

    That being said, my 28 lbs 2015 Bronson v1 *practically* has the weight and geo (saddle slammed forward and angleset installed of course, with flat bars too) of new downcountry bikes, just with longer travel
    And the dual position fork I run (130/160) allows it to climb with an XC/trail geometry and descend with an (outdated) enduro geometry. So ... pre-boost frames do have some weight advantages ...
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    "Strapping myself to a sitski built with 30lb of metal and fibreglass then trying to water ski in it sounds like a stupid idea to me.

    I'll be there."
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    *takes note of rides mentioned*

    FWIW my spur is 28lbs. The way it rides though I've no doubt it is faster on the ups than a bronson. It blows my mojo3 out of the water.

  3. #653
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio View Post
    Down here in the south / upper Willamette we have some longass deep rides where that class of bike is great, like the O Leary Ridge to King Castle epic, or the Old Cascades Crest Pyramids loop, or full Bunchgrass to Oakridge, etc.
    Man, I miss riding that sort of stuff. Been a long time, and bikes have changed soooooo much.
    Florence Nightingale's Stormtrooper

  4. #654
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    You always have a place to base out of here if you want to visit, Scrubby!
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  5. #655
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    Evdog and anyone else, if you are ever planning an Oregon trip send me a PM and I’m happy to throw some beta your way.

    I don’t know anything firsthand about Southern WA (Gifford Pinchot) though, so you gotta ask other mags about that.
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    I'll be there."
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    You always have a place to base out of here if you want to visit, Scrubby!
    Noted, and thanks.

    Really meant the stuff Schralp mentioned - I grew up around there, and it's where I started riding.
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  7. #657
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    Ah, I didn’t know that. I knew you were in Denver for a while...
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  8. #658
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Ah, I didn’t know that. I knew you were in Denver for a while...
    Grew up just south of Eugene. Only left OR in 2000.
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  9. #659
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio View Post
    Evdog and anyone else, if you are ever planning an Oregon trip send me a PM and I’m happy to throw some beta your way.

    I don’t know anything firsthand about Southern WA (Gifford Pinchot) though, so you gotta ask other mags about that.
    Haha, in OR as we speak. Camped above Florence right now. Rode a couple days in Grants pass staying with a friend but had to jet up to Portland. Headed north from there based on the forecast. Got in a couple rad days riding in Port angeles then drove down the coast in rain. Forecast looks great for numerous stops heading south. I plan to be back in OR and WA this summer though and will be looking for cool and big backcountry rides.

  10. #660
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    2021 Bikes That Make Your Shorts Tighter.

    Awesome Ev!

    Camped at/near Horse Creek Camp?
    I don’t know how those trails drain after a rain, but the upper part of Cummins Ridge can handle moisture really well and is a sick, albeit super super short, trail. I’ve ridden it on a hardtail with 150mm fork - but it’s got a lot of steep rolls so slacker bikes will do better there. Siltcoos Lake trail is very close to Florence but I have no idea how it handles moisture and have never ridden it.

    Further inland, Alsea may be riding okay right now ... and Whypass (Carpenter Bypass) is built to handle winter rains.

    Down south by Grants Pass, Taylor Creek trail is a real treat! The Jedi section west of Windy Pass is suuuuuuuper easy (did it with a 1 year old the handlebars) but a delightful stroll through a Ponderosa and sugar pine ridgeline.

    Enjoy!
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    I'll be there."
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    This video of Yoann and Remy showing off their process for tackling new slab and jump features on their new bikes (GG and Propain) seems like it was tailor-made for the 160-170mm bike geeks on this thread! I always had an idea Remy was a sick rider, but watching him throw his Propain sideways with such quickness and precision blew my mind ... (long video but all the fun happens in the middle around 12-14 mins in)

    https://youtu.be/JXm1vWgcFxc
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    "Strapping myself to a sitski built with 30lb of metal and fibreglass then trying to water ski in it sounds like a stupid idea to me.

    I'll be there."
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    Yup, horse creek. Fun trails! Heading down to Coos Bay but may need to jump back to Portland tomorrow, so I might be able to fit one of those other suggestions in. Any beta on Lower Rogue River Trail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio View Post
    This video of Yoann and Remy showing off their process for tackling new slab and jump features on their new bikes (GG and Propain) seems like it was tailor-made for the 160-170mm bike geeks on this thread! I always had an idea Remy was a sick rider, but watching him throw his Propain sideways with such quickness and precision blew my mind ... (long video but all the fun happens in the middle around 12-14 mins in)

    https://youtu.be/JXm1vWgcFxc
    Remy jumping into the vid was awesome.
    I never realized how small he is.

    Both these guys are great.

  14. #664
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    2021 Bikes That Make Your Shorts Tighter.

    About to start the long hunt for a frame for Mrs Hubbs.
    Needs:
    -27.5 wheel size. (Size small, so if they only do 27.5 in small, that’s cool)
    -Carbon.
    -Built for 140 fork.
    -130 rear.
    -Frame set only?
    What frame am I?
    PM me for photos. Or I’ll PM you photos if your suggestion is helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    About to start the long hunt for a frame for Mrs Hubbs.
    Needs:
    -27.5 wheel size. (Size small, so if they only do 27.5 in small, that’s cool)
    -Carbon.
    -Built for 140 fork.
    -130 rear.
    -Frame set only?
    What frame am I?
    PM me for photos. Or I’ll PM you photos if your suggestion is helpful.
    Ibis Mojo?

  16. #666
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    A 2021 Orbea Occam M10 showed up at the bike shop today. It made me wet. The standard employee deal here is cost plus 10% up to $100, so cost plus $100. Assuming the boss doesn't reneg on that deal and the numbers I found in the system are correct, I'm going to make it mine tomorrow.



    https://www.orbea.com/ca-en/bicycles.../cat/occam-m10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    About to start the long hunt for a frame for Mrs Hubbs.
    Needs:
    -27.5 wheel size. (Size small, so if they only do 27.5 in small, that’s cool)
    -Carbon.
    -Built for 140 fork.
    -130 rear.
    -Frame set only?
    What frame am I?
    PM me for photos. Or I’ll PM you photos if your suggestion is helpful.
    Evil Calling, Intense Primer 275, Mojo, SC 5010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    About to start the long hunt for a frame for Mrs Hubbs.
    Needs:
    -27.5 wheel size. (Size small, so if they only do 27.5 in small, that’s cool)
    -Carbon.
    -Built for 140 fork.
    -130 rear.
    -Frame set only?
    What frame am I?
    Evil Calling
    Ibis Mojo
    Santa Cruz 5010
    Trek Fuel EX (S = 27.5)

    Intense Primer 275 (140/150)
    Giant Trance (140/150)
    I think there are a few more once I start looking into the 140/150 category. Trying to keep a 140 fork on it, with it's intended geometry.

  19. #669
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    SB140
    I would suggest something from Rocky, but that all appears to be vaporwear...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    SB140
    I would suggest something from Rocky, but that all appears to be vaporwear...
    YetiBro is SB is 140/160

    Rocky's only 27.5 offering are:
    Thunderbolt Alloy 140/150
    Instinct 140/150
    Altitude 160/170
    Reaper 27.5 (Youth Alloy)

    I figured the only way for my "Mystical 2021 Yet To Be Released New Rocky" to appear, is to over extend my self and purchase a bike for the Mrs.
    Last edited by Dee Hubbs; 03-02-2021 at 09:04 AM.

  21. #671
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    Evil Calling
    Ibis Mojo
    Santa Cruz 5010
    Trek Fuel EX (S = 27.5)

    Intense Primer 275 (140/150)
    Giant Trance (140/150)
    I think there are a few more once I start looking into the 140/150 category. Trying to keep a 140 fork on it, with it's intended geometry.
    Does Santa Crux not sell Frames only? Has that always been the case, or is this just new with current times/inventory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    Does Santa Crux not sell Frames only? Has that always been the case, or is this just new with current times/inventory?
    They've always sold just the frame. Looks like it does come with a shock. It's listed under the bike pricing in a fine print.
    Frame Only Pricing:
    5010 CC with Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate - $3299 USD

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    I see that now. I swear I looked everywhere on the site yesterday for a frame only pricing.

  24. #674
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    I see that now. I swear I looked everywhere on the site yesterday for a frame only pricing.
    It's not where the builds are, and is a little weird.
    www.dpsskis.com
    www.point6.com
    formerly an ambassador for a few others, but the ski industry is... interesting.
    Fukt: a very small amount of snow.

  25. #675
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    This new Alchemy looks very promising.

    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-...one-frame.html
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