$600 a week

[rod9301]

I think it makes sense for people to stay home instead of going to work. Is their health and not their fault that we are in pandemic.

And at the low end of the wage they don't have the option of working remotely, so they are more likely to get sick, then infect other people

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[prsboogie]

The Fed should have given up to 600 per week based on your take home pay. If your Unemployment Benefit was 210 and you normally cleared 400, you get an extra $190 etc... I'm Massachusetts your max UB is $800 so if you are lucky enough to make more than $1400 take home than $600 would be needed to keep them from potentially defaulting on loans/ mortgages etc.

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[Skidog]

Well, given unemployment is likely something he paid into and we want people to spend money and stay home - whatever. Better than wasting money on profitable banks and rich people, they don't spend shit.

Oh they paid in.

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[jono]

I think it makes sense for people to stay home instead of going to work. Is their health and not their fault that we are in pandemic.

And at the low end of the wage they don't have the option of working remotely, so they are more likely to get sick, then infect other people

I said it snarkier, but that is the answer. A body's ability to crank out viruses does not change with income level. Paying more to higher wage earners so they'd be more likely to stay home is just more expensive, not more effective.

If anything, higher wage earners should have less incentive to avoid working. PM Bobby Stainless for why we know they're more essential, but the tl/dr is if you needed them that bad you'd have been paying them more in the first place. The lowest bidder is very seldom equipped to make you money.

[riser4]

dude. you need to move.

come to upstate. work on the canal. we're hiring. $16.92 start, steps to $25.00. easy promotions from there. we are short handed.





think about it.

Good place to work if you can find it.

[schuss]

Oh they paid in.

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Then what's the problem and how is it scamming? Regardless of income level you should be able to utilize the systems you paid into for times like this.

[schuss]

Also - high wage earners are likely still working as most work in spaces easily replicable digitally.
Exceptions would likely be certain high end sciences and trades, but those spaces likely can get good PPE/separation implemented to keep going.
I know my corp has 50k working remotely with few hiccups (honestly biggest drain is lack of childcare for parents).

[k2skier112]

The Fed should have given up to 600 per week based on your take home pay. If your Unemployment Benefit was 210 and you normally cleared 400, you get an extra $190 etc... I'm Massachusetts your max UB is $800 so if you are lucky enough to make more than $1400 take home than $600 would be needed to keep them from potentially defaulting on loans/ mortgages etc.

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^this. It should be on a sliding scale, but our leaders are completely out of touch with the real world

A friend was bitching that the $1,200 welfare check stopped at $90k $(99?). And I told him that if you make 90k a year, you shouldn't need 1,200. He thought that was absurd, he made more than 100k and was just pissed he didn't get a handout

[ill-advised strategy]

Damn that's crazy.

Is there any hope for promotions or pay increases?

My wife is climbing her ladder. So that’s helping.

The number on the top of my scale will change with new CBA’s, but I am now at a level where I don’t get increases just for staying. I get more paid leave, and my safety award is now accounting for 8 years of no at-fault accidents, so it’s like a few hundred $$.
The biggest thing with increasing seniority is I snipe our schedule like a fucking precision laser guided, gravy-seeking missile.

Anyway, the fact that the stay-homers (in fact, henceforth I shall apply the term and nickname “Homer” for them all) are making more than us workin suckers has been a source of not-insignificant bile around my work culture. I suspect that’s not just here.

I’m making a point (to whom? Good question...) with it though..The conservatives at work moan about socialism and go on and on about work ethic and all that.....if I’m a socialist, I mean, it starts with FROM EACH according to his ability. Ask not what your country can do for you... I feel those things in my core. Did we all forget about that part? Pretty god damn important part.
So, hey, whatever, I’m not Homer. I drink my little coffee and I ride my little scooter to work and I eat a little sandwich at lunchy time and I listen to a little music and say a little bad word or three while I fight a little traffic. Then I scooter home at sunset and walk my little dog to the beach and talk about our workies with my little lady and have a little old drink swatting little flies by the little old campfire. It could be so much worse. Really, I’m not grinding it out in the rat race, I put ketchup on everything...these are the good times.

[glademaster]

That last paragraph could damn near be lyrics to a James McMurtry song.

ETA: Nice Prairie Home Companion reference there at the end, Yeti.

[sirbumpsalot]

All these people who are refusing to work because they make more on unemployment must realize this is just temporary, right? Seems pretty short sighted.

My friend is gambling this will be extended thru end of year....and I bet he is right.

And a side note....the $600 a week Fed payment is NOT an UE fund that people paid into and they are just taking the benefit...its essentially free money from the printing press

[schuss]

My friend is gambling this will be extended thru end of year....and I bet he is right.

And a side note....the $600 a week Fed payment is NOT an UE fund that people paid into and they are just taking the benefit...its essentially free money from the printing press

Yes, but the reference was to the other UE funds. $600 a week to those most impacted is more stabilizing than other uses. Alternative is mass scale mortgage defaults and evictions/rent issues.

[doebedoe]

...Alternative is mass scale mortgage defaults and evictions/rent issues.

The latter is going to happen, with or w/o the $600 a week.

[schuss]

Yes, but it helps no one to have it happen faster.

[MontuckyFried]

All these people who are refusing to work because they make more on unemployment must realize this is just temporary, right? Seems pretty short sighted.

Exactly. I took a low paying but honest day's living over unemployment. That gravy train ain't gonna last forever, then all those lazy pukes are going to be fighting over crumbs. Everyone at my factory is damn thankful for the work right now. All hard workers who are smart enough to know what's up. Sure enough, hiring stopped right after I came onboard and they haven't brought anybody on in like a month+. Glad I jumped on the opportunity when I finally scored ANY job after months of searching. It's only going to get worse if unemployment runs out and perhaps it SHOULD if that many people are willingly choosing to chill at home on my dime over work while I work my ass off for freaking peanuts.

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[Core Shot]

Lol. 98% of my employees came back to work even if it was less than they were making on funenjoyment

They like to work. And they like my biz.
Office work pays $18
Field work pays $25

But I would like to hire two trainees and a skilled worker. No dice.

I ranted about the $600 in the small biz thread. Started this thread when I heard congress wants to extend the funny money.

It’s bizarro world.

Just drove a third across USA. Rest stops had half the biz closed. My thought was not covid, but covid funny money to not work. I’m sure those jobs are minimum wage. And minimum wage ain’t enough to live, and making more not working is great

But it’s an odd situation.

I think it’s a slippery slope to the guaranteed minimum government pay. The idea that if everyone made $1k a week, they would do jobs they want.
But who’s going to suck the shit out of your septic or pick up your trash for “fun” or something to do. Lol

PS. Know a dude that won’t ever go on payroll. Always works hard for cash. He’s getting the $600. But no unemployment

[liv2ski]

Yes, but it helps no one to have it happen faster.

That response sounds like it is inevitable, so just pull the band aid off and let the healing begin. I mean approve any bailout amount as it doesn't even matter anymore how many Trillions the politicians add to the deficit, as the reckoning for how stoopidly we wasted money over the last 40 years has to be around the corner.

[dunfree]

Whole lot of anecdata here.

[Dantheman]

^this. It should be on a sliding scale, but our leaders are completely out of touch with the real world

The bill was written and passed in days, it would have taken far longer to implement effective means testing. Shit, I've never stopped working, didn't need the stimulus checks, but between myself, the wife and kid I got $2,900. Haven't spent a dime of it yet. I'm far from alone there.

[The AD]

Lol. 98% of my employees came back to work even if it was less than they were making on funenjoyment

Yet you're still bitching about it?

[wooley12]

He's so full of shit.

[Core Shot]

Yet you're still bitching about it?

Wow. Reading comprehension is low.

Not bitching about my employees. Very proud of the team.


Bitching that I can’t hire more folks until august. Or whenever they stop the funny money if it gets extended.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Feeding children
Paying rent
Buying toilet paper
Buying shoe polish
Buying hair spray
Buying a magazine
Buying a new shirt
Buying.....
Buying ......Buying..........Buying

To save the economy and avert large scale human suffering.

You're welcome.

I guess you didn’t really read the post. People having as little as 4 hours a week cut in Washington are getting an extra $600 a week on top of their unemployment benefits. We participated in Shared Work at the hospital and my benefit would have been $695 a week if I had claimed. I was only losing $144 a week because my hours had been cut by 4/week. The CARES money was intended for people that were actually laid off or lost their jobs. I choose not to take the handout because it didn’t feel right.

Some of the nurses and techs that I work with were making more with 10-15% hours cut. These people make $50-75k a year or more and they’re coming out ahead, working less and making more.


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[riser4]

Lol. 98% of my employees came back to work even if it was less than they were making on funenjoyment

They like to work. And they like my biz.
Office work pays $18
Field work pays $25

But I would like to hire two trainees and a skilled worker. No dice.

I ranted about the $600 in the small biz thread. Started this thread when I heard congress wants to extend the funny money.

It’s bizarro world.

Just drove a third across USA. Rest stops had half the biz closed. My thought was not covid, but covid funny money to not work. I’m sure those jobs are minimum wage. And minimum wage ain’t enough to live, and making more not working is great

But it’s an odd situation.

I think it’s a slippery slope to the guaranteed minimum government pay. The idea that if everyone made $1k a week, they would do jobs they want.
But who’s going to suck the shit out of your septic or pick up your trash for “fun” or something to do. Lol

PS. Know a dude that won’t ever go on payroll. Always works hard for cash. He’s getting the $600. But no unemployment

Rest stops, huh? Your business is free BJs for truckers? How does that get you paid?

[XXX-er]

Up here we got the CERB, some of those people who won't be able to come up with the cash next year don't realize it may be free money but it will be subject to income tax

I didn't qualify for any handouts cuz I didn't have a job, between not skiing and the bars being close i was probably saving 500$ a month during COVID

so i gave some of it away