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09-12-2020, 11:30 AM #651
2020 Wildfire Season
This ^^ is the best advice. Also you can put tape around the edges of leaky doors and windows. We have no hvac. I have several box fans that are sucking through merv12 filters (I couldn’t find merv13 filters locally. And we have a portable hepa filter that I bought during the Camp Fire smoke fest. It’s medium size (~2’x1’x1’), and it helps substantially. Woke with a mild headache and my wife’s had a headache since Thursday.
I have a friend in Talent who’s home didn’t burn down, but they have bad smoke now and no power. That’s gotta be rough and I hope that can bail to someplace less smokey.
Our airs generally been bad since we had a local wildfire in July, but last night was the worst so far. The San Juan ridge, which is closer to the Bear Fire/North Complex by about 5 miles than me which had a low cost purple air station that was consistently reading over 600. Our air district site, which has its station about 8 miles from my house and about 15 miles from the site with the 600 readings, was consistently reading between 375 and 400 in the evening and jumped to 527 before I went to bed. I see that Reno is really bad right now).
Btw, why can’t I post a phone screen picture?
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09-12-2020, 11:40 AM #652
Re: smoke. If thousands of us can go entire careers hiking around and working and sleeping in it all summer, you can go a few days or weeks. We’re fine. You’ll be fine. I promise.
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09-12-2020, 11:54 AM #653click here
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09-12-2020, 12:25 PM #654
What you do is vital and I hope you do not suffer long term consequences. Several studies of the health hazards faced by wildland firefighters are ongoing:
Not Enough Is Known About Smoke's Effect On Wildland Firefighters' Health
Study shows firefighters’ exposure to smoke increases disease risk
Wildland Firefighter Smoke Exposure
You be safe out there and I'm going to stay home with the house closed up. Thank-you for what you do.Last edited by KQ; 09-12-2020 at 12:47 PM.
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09-12-2020, 12:43 PM #655Registered User
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09-12-2020, 02:20 PM #660
Here is the incident command page with updates on Riverside.
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/7174/55624/
The FB page for Mt. Hood National Forrest has been pushing info regularly too. Give them a like if you want to follow.
Regarding smoke, stay hydrated to give your body the best chance to keep your mucus system running well and your lungs as clear as possible. I am sorry for asthma suffers. You may want to check your inhalers and get your prescriptions filled. Your doc may let you refill earlier than normal.
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09-12-2020, 02:34 PM #661
KEZI9 reports that the Lane County Sheriff says 50 missing in the Holiday Farm Fire (Mckenzie)
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09-12-2020, 02:56 PM #662
Hearing from the rogue valley area. Pre-fire: 1% vacancy rate. The current official info about home destruction is not accounting for the mobile home parks that were burned down, so the # of displaced is much higher than what’s being officially reported. And of course, that population is one of the most vulnerable to multiple bad things.
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09-12-2020, 03:04 PM #663“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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09-12-2020, 03:33 PM #664
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09-12-2020, 03:36 PM #665
^ I’d take an AQI of 400 of that.
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09-12-2020, 03:43 PM #666
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09-12-2020, 04:09 PM #667
It's down to 480 outside (and inside) right now - gonna go back out to the garage. Ms TBS is slowly coming around to thinking the garage smells better too.
Forecast is for good chance of showers early next week. Would be great, esp because the storms will be coming from the west and that means rain will drop on the Holiday Farm, Beachie Creek and Lionshead fires
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09-12-2020, 07:03 PM #668
I think we're going to see several thousand residences (including apartments and other housing facilities) lost in the area of Ashland, Talent, Phoenix, and South Medford. My wife and I couldn't sleep once the wind picked up early Tuesday AM - too noisy and I was switched into alert mode. The fire started a few blocks from my house and it went NNW in a real big hurry. Sustained SSE winds at 25+ and gusts over 50 for 36 hour period. No chance at containment and barely enough time to evac for many folks.
I have studied and taught wildland fire behavior as part of my profession for the last 15 years, and this is the first time I've seen, in-person, a fire move that quickly from ignition to full-on FUBAR. Smoke here is atrocious - AQI in the 400-500 range with a red flag warning in-place for tomorrow afternoon. Here we go again, but (hopefully) not with the same wind speeds and duration.
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09-12-2020, 07:16 PM #669
Glad to hear you are safe. Best wishes for future.
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09-12-2020, 08:12 PM #670
The dense tule fogs in the Sacramento valley miraculously went away when they stopped burning the rice stubble. When I first lived there finding your freeway exit was often a challenge in the winter. You never booked a flight before noon unless it was a very early flight where the plane landed the night before. Planes couldn't land in the fog back then. When I stopped living there in 2011 dense fogs were almost unheard of. Like London--the famous fog was actually smog, and lethal. Much better now than in Dickens' day.
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09-12-2020, 08:23 PM #671
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09-12-2020, 08:24 PM #672
I remember doing a job in Sacto and coming home on 5 in the middle of the night and hitting tule fog. I think that was my first experience with that dense of fog. Fortunately being on 5, not a lot of turning involved.
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09-12-2020, 08:57 PM #673
Interesting article about the decline of tule fog. In my California days - 60s and 70s - there was tule fog and burning rice fields...and fires were a lot smaller. Oh, and it was a lot more interesting driving then before I-5 existed and before 101 got freewayed. Things were a little wilder back then.
Anyway, https://www.livescience.com/46121-ca...-tule-fog.html
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09-12-2020, 09:49 PM #674
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09-12-2020, 10:24 PM #675
Counting the hours. So bad here that despite my best efforts smoke continues to seep into the house.
Animals seem surprisingly okay with it. Donkeys and deer might be a bit bugged but horses and cats seem normal so far. Turkey and pheasants are quite active too.
One of my house cats who will not be contained has been spending all day outside and now stinks like a forest fire.
Here's a question for any aperists: what do bees do when it's smokey like this? Do they flee their hives or hunker down?“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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