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Thread: 2020 Wildfire Season
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10-08-2020, 09:03 PM #1026
Visibility in along I-80 in southeast WY
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10-09-2020, 01:53 PM #1027“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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Dunkin’ Donuts Worker Dances With Customer Who Has Autism
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10-09-2020, 03:08 PM #1028
Probably some idiot thought it was 5G
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10-09-2020, 04:58 PM #1029
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10-09-2020, 06:00 PM #1030glocal
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That's some fucked up shit.
I've set repeaters on mountaintops and know how dependent guys on the ground are for those things to work.
It's hard enough for communications to function correctly sometimes (usually a liveware issue).
meadowskipper - that Outside article property is how forest homes should be rigged. Shit, living in Topanga Canyon above the beach, almost every house had a water tank that stayed full always cause everybody knew once a fire hit that there would be no pressure for your hose. Makes being on a well a bonus.
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10-09-2020, 06:36 PM #1031
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10-09-2020, 07:57 PM #1032Registered User
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Edit - Deleted my comments about Aus stay and defend, covered in the article.
I think an underreported aspect of the latest Oregon westside fires is the amount of private firefighting that went on in the form of construction companies and just people staying to protect property went on.
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020...tts-mills.html
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10-09-2020, 08:34 PM #1033
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but the Creek Fire, on the Central Sierra west slope, is still burning, though more slowly. It's finally reached Mono Hot Springs and Vermillion Valley Resort. Fire crews have been active there, doing a lot of back-fire work so that when the actual fire reaches there (map shows that it's there now), structures will be preserved (and so far they have been) and the fire won't spread further. Hoped for rain in that area (and indeed all the way north to Tahoe) this weekend have fizzled.
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10-09-2020, 09:26 PM #1034glocal
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Been one hell of an Indian Summer so far.
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10-09-2020, 10:35 PM #1035?
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I was talking to my mom yesterday. She says it's really Smoky where she lives. Cresco iowa. Saying the smoke is coming from Oregon and Washington. That's 2000 miles away. Is that possible?
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10-11-2020, 01:31 AM #1036click here
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Flipping ahead and back a few days, I'd say yes
https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov...ance_TrueColor
Although I'd credit CA before OR or WA. Looks like August Complex, Creek Fire, and Castle Fire making most of the recent smoke. So, she's smelling some fine NorCal ganja smoke from the August Complex, with giant sequoia smoke from Creek and Castle, and barely a whiff of fine Napa Cabernet from the Glass Fire. Savor before it's gone
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10-17-2020, 09:01 PM #1037
Things are looking rough on the CO front range. The Cameron Peak fire seems to have Loveland and Ft. Collins in its sights.
Crazy late season action for the Rockies.
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10-17-2020, 09:17 PM #1038
yikes
I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
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10-17-2020, 10:47 PM #1039
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10-17-2020, 10:49 PM #1040
yeah, that fire blew up. I read tonight (not confirmed) that the Greenbriar burned down.
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10-17-2020, 11:18 PM #1041
The Cameron Peak fire ran 17 miles yesterday through heavy timber, driven by sustained 80 MPH winds. It ran another 8 miles today. Pretty damn wild. Also, there isn't a single shot crew left on the roster in Region 2. All R2 shot crews were laid off for the season, and now that most resources are collecting unemployment the biggest fire in CO history has blown up.
CO seems to be investing in state fire resources which is good to see, but it seems like the May to early October availability for federal resources in R2 needs to be reevaluated going forward.
Wow, that sucks to see. The Boulder area is quickly running out of unburned foothills.
Damn. Crazy that the fire ran so hard downhill. That's pretty extreme fire behavior to burn downhill to the highway. It's almost unheard of in CO, except for the Waldo Canyon Fire that had similar fire behavior in CO Springs.
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10-18-2020, 08:48 AM #1042Registered User
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R6 IHC's are basically done as well. I imagine they could extend the tours of the permanent seasonals and combine crews to form a smaller number of IHC or Type 2 IA crews. R5 year round staffing might need to a be a model more regions look at moving forward.
I believe one of the NIMO teams was contingency planning for this and the college departures at the national level this summer.
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10-18-2020, 08:56 AM #1043
I don’t know if this has changed, but when I was in the game, the problem was that if federal temp seasonal employees (the majority of a fed HS crew) worked past 180 calendar days, they would have to be considered permanent employees and be given appointments which meant permanent (conditional) status and benefits. That seems like a good thing unless you’re one of those ruthless gov’t bean-counters.
It seems like this may be something the fed agencies are going to have to reckon with soon. It might be something of a game-changer on the fed wildfire employment front.
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10-18-2020, 09:07 AM #1044
This is still the case. We were trying to get a small rx burn done this fall with the FS, but our window closed last week due to weather, most of the seasonal employees being released at the end of this week, and the crew was running around having to put out warming fires hunters were leaving. The next group gets released at the end of the next pay period.
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10-18-2020, 09:50 AM #1045
The 180 day limit is my understanding as well, but it's also my understanding that most R2 resources get laid off around the 150 day mark (early May to early October) and don't actually come close to the 180 day limit. It's probably worth revisiting that, since most of the staffing for Cameron Peak is R6 contract crews at the moment and there are only 4 IHC's in region 2 at the moment (they are from R5 and R6).
I'm sure that the R2 perms are out working, but it seems like a major bummer to not have full crews available at the moment.
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10-18-2020, 10:42 AM #1046
JFC, it seems like it might never end. This is crazy, 1000 acres!.
Fire east of Taos grows to 1,000 acres
It was unknown what caused the blaze.
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10-18-2020, 11:20 AM #1047
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10-18-2020, 11:39 AM #1048Banned
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