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  1. #726
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    The Official Argue About Where Upstate NY Is Thread

    Nice UC Roadie.
    I'm digging these upstate flexes - wow, road biking, so amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    It would appear that according to the article, it was 15,000 acres larger in the past as well. I guess they sold that part to NYS. That’s a huge chunk on the east coast regardless
    I don't have any figures in front of me but my sense is that there are many private holdings of that size or larger in the ADKs. There are 6 million acres in the ADKs and about 1/2 are in private hands and there are some very large parcels out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    Given the comments on this last page, shouldn't we see more crank in the pic too?
    I see two cranks there. The whole setup looks early 90's with the bar ends and 26's so I'm guessing 130mm w/ square drive?

    Quote Originally Posted by fhw View Post
    I don't have any figures in front of me but my sense is...
    Hold on. This isn't the Covid thread where you just make up numbers. Come back when you have some real figures on this and cite credible sources.
    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

  4. #729
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    ^^^
    I’m satisfied.

    Speaking of 90s crank, I sold my 1994 GT Avalanche that was in pristine condition a couple years ago and I still regret it.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    That's the same way I feel about my '90 M3.
    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

  6. #731
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    Couple of days climbing rocks in LP. Forgot how much upstate (and WNY) sucks. Immediately went home and packed for Charlotte.

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  7. #732
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    That's the same way I feel about my '90 M3.
    Vibes.

    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Couple of days climbing rocks in LP. Forgot how much upstate (and WNY) sucks. Immediately went home and packed for Charlotte.

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    Double vibes.
    I still call it The Jake.

  8. #733
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    I think it's fair to say that the Adirondacks are far superior to the Green Mountains in Vermont.

    I'll leave the White Mountain circle jerk to Rog and Buttah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Couple of days climbing rocks in LP. Forgot how much upstate (and WNY) sucks. Immediately went home and packed for Charlotte.

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    Is that Charlotte?

  10. #735
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    Looks more like a Kim.

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    Karen at rest.

  12. #737
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    Yes, much nicer mountains east and west of the Greens. Go to those other places with your covids.

  13. #738
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    High Peaks zone is loaded with amazing routes, many of which are steep and muddy AF.
    If I had to pick a favorite, the trek from the Loj -> Lake Colden -> Lake Tear of the Clouds -> Skylight might be it.
    5 - 6.5 hour drives from WNY & ROC do suck though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile View Post
    High Peaks zone is loaded with amazing routes, many of which are steep and muddy AF.
    If I had to pick a favorite, the trek from the Loj -> Lake Colden -> Lake Tear of the Clouds -> Skylight might be it.
    5 - 6.5 hour drives from WNY & ROC do suck though.
    4:30 door to door from ROC to LP. Central and Speculator ADK regions are only 3.

    Will have to make a note to try that route one day. This trip we just did Ampersand and Jo.

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    I was just reading about Old-Growth forests in the East and there's a good-sized one on/near Ampersand, that would be cool to check out. Interestingly (to me, at least) there is also some old-growth forest in the Bronx Botanical Gardens, that's a big reason the Gardens are where they are, they bought the land in part because the forest was on it. https://www.nybg.org/garden/forest/

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    4:30 door to door from ROC to LP. Central and Speculator ADK regions are only 3.

    Will have to make a note to try that route one day. This trip we just did Ampersand and Jo.
    It's TGR, we always take our fastest times and say that's the norm - #45minutestoLoveland
    Skylight is a long trek, but it's a good one. Colden, Basin and Haystack are also superb.
    The one that always eluded me was Gothics. That's a stunning peak.

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    The Official Argue About Where Upstate NY Is Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by fhw View Post
    Umm........wait, what?
    Lack of shoulders on secondary roads is pretty common on my side of the lake.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
    Lack of shoulders on secondary roads is pretty common on my side of the lake.


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    Well that's true here as well but the traffic levels on those roads are so low it doesn't really matter. I can get on some town roads here and not see a single car for miles at a time. The riding here is as safe as I think anyone can reasonably expect. Again, just stay off the state highways - even though they tend to have wide shoulders. It's not even that the State highways are unsafe; it's just that I'm spoiled and hate sharing the roads I ride with car traffic. Compared to anything I rode when I lived in the Albany area, they're virtually bike paths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile View Post
    The one that always eluded me was Gothics. That's a stunning peak.
    Do it from the AuSable Lakes side. The approach up Sawteeth is breathtaking.

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    I guess the Post thinks Rockland County is upstate. Palisades is the southeast corner of the county, practically NJ
    https://nypost.com/2020/10/03/snakes-infiltrate-upstate-columbia-observatory-amid-covid-19-vacancy/

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    Recently took a week tour from Maine over to Old Forge, LP and back. Hadn’t been in decades. Forgot how absolutely beautiful it is around LP

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticketchecker View Post
    Recently took a week tour from Maine over to Old Forge, LP and back. Hadn’t been in decades. Forgot how absolutely beautiful it is around LP
    ^^^
    This guy gets it.

  23. #748
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    yeah, it’s called upstate. not “western” ny, wherever that is.
    j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi

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    Dunkirk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    Holiday Valley Freestyle, woot, woot!
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