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  1. #7476
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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    This changes things?

    In that case the Upstates Effect extends well west on I-86, sorry, the Southern Tier Expressway, past Chautauqua, includes the rusty bits of Erie (which is pretty much all of it) and runs down the coast of Lake Erie until you start hitting civilization towards Cleveland.
    Cleveland is civilized?
    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    [Spits out breakfast on monitor.]. Dafuq? Keep your outstates outa my state!!!
    Hahahaha. I did it for you

  2. #7477
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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    Cleveland is civilized?
    Just.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    My TR thru the upstates is changing, trying to steer it through this portal https://beakandskiff.com/event/phil-...ody-dickinson/


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    keep an eye open for a taper with a UC in his hand….

    and if you’re going to be in that neck of the woods you might want to look at the bike trails around McCauley.

    https://mccauleyny.com/mountain_biking.html

    https://mccauleyny.com/documents/Mcc...tain%20Map.pdf

    https://mccauleyny.com/documents/Map...rail%20Map.pdf

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    gale force windage in effect….

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    That is crazy that a chairlift is spinning to that patch.

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    Right? But thankfully it is.
    I still call it The Jake.

  8. #7483
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    Going out on a limb here, but is m27 the lift operator?

    - First tracks/no one else in the pics
    - Open UC cans like a boss
    - Straightlining with impunity

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    what now? watch other people ski all day? yeah, naw…..


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    homie don’t play that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Going out on a limb here, but is m27 the lift operator?

    - First tracks/no one else in the pics
    - Open UC cans like a boss
    - Straightlining with impunity
    A couple of other occupied chairs past the 2nd tower in the pic.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by heckacali View Post
    A couple of other occupied chairs past the 2nd tower in the pic.....
    Thanks Columbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Thanks Columbo.
    Hey, we could use a Columbo on this quest.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    More Gore tomorrow. Anyone else?
    Gimme five, I'm still alive!
    Ain't no luck, I learned to duck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    This changes things?

    In that case the Upstates Effect extends well west on I-86, sorry, the Southern Tier Expressway, past Chautauqua, includes the rusty bits of Erie (which is pretty much all of it) and runs down the coast of Lake Erie until you start hitting civilization towards Cleveland.
    There are more than some sections of Cleveland that calling them being in "civilization" is a stretch. They are rusty and abandoned just like many other northern cities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RShea View Post
    There are more than some sections of Cleveland that calling them being in "civilization" is a stretch. They are rusty and abandoned just like many other northern cities...
    That's mostly East Cleveland, it's own special hellhole.

    Have you ever seen sidewalk trash fires before?

    If you want to, that's where you should go.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Jerry View Post
    More Gore tomorrow. Anyone else?
    I’m trying to get there Sunday if they make it

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    Is this the soup thread?

  18. #7493
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    sure. soup is good food….



    govermint dj agrees….


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    fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    That's mostly East Cleveland, it's own special hellhole.

    Have you ever seen sidewalk trash fires before?

    If you want to, that's where you should go.
    Not sure if it is Cleveland or the next dump of a place south- but one of the I-7x (do not even remember if it was 71 or 77 now) interstates that heads down and just before you get to I-480 is a long stretch of just old or abandoned industrial land- piles of civilized stuff from maybe the 1950's or 1960's that probably has not been touched since. Can you maybe even say Super Fund Cleanup needed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    Hey, we could use a Columbo on this quest.
    I prefer:

    Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
    This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
    Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Jerry View Post
    More Gore tomorrow. Anyone else?
    Going to be there tomorrow. Will probably be wearing a tgr sweatshirt

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    Quote Originally Posted by RShea View Post
    Not sure if it is Cleveland or the next dump of a place south- but one of the I-7x (do not even remember if it was 71 or 77 now) interstates that heads down and just before you get to I-480 is a long stretch of just old or abandoned industrial land- piles of civilized stuff from maybe the 1950's or 1960's that probably has not been touched since. Can you maybe even say Super Fund Cleanup needed...
    I-77, likely overlooking the old Mill Valley. Yeah, that was like looking back into 1970 for sure. Peak Rust Belt.

    Funny thing is, the Cuyahoga gave rise to the EPA, which, with the help of Superfund law helped spur a 4-decade cleanup effort such that you can now eat fish out of it (I’d still be leery of the fish in the shipping channel), and everything from the headwaters through the Cuyahoga Valley National Park and up to the Lake is restored, clean, thriving and full of more paddlers than Laker Freighters. Even that section of Mill Valley, as unsightly as it may be, has had its banks restored and sludge dredged.

    It’s a really cool success story.

    Sure, it’s always going to be a Rust Belt city that gave birth to some of our greatest industrialists in our nation’s history, who in turn took the “Forest City” and raped it’s resources leaving those scars we’ll see for as long as we’re alive.

    But it’s also home to some truly gorgeous areas, districts and neighborhoods that are lucky to have some future-minded (and thankfully very wealthy) people making sure they stay that way and help change the damage that was done in the past to those less fortunate areas. Declining population isn’t helping, but it’s still home to many Fortune 500 HQ’s, and AmLaw 50 firms, arguably the best hospital in the nation, world class theatre, symphony and academic institutions, which is why every time I fly back I’m happy for the progress I see and thankful for the hands it’s in. Ugly scars and all.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    I-77, likely overlooking the old Mill Valley. Yeah, that was like looking back into 1970 for sure. Peak Rust Belt.

    Funny thing is, the Cuyahoga gave rise to the EPA, which, with the help of Superfund law helped spur a 4-decade cleanup effort such that you can now eat fish out of it (I’d still be leery of the fish in the shipping channel), and everything from the headwaters through the Cuyahoga Valley National Park and up to the Lake is restored, clean, thriving and full of more paddlers than Laker Freighters. Even that section of Mill Valley, as unsightly as it may be, has had its banks restored and sludge dredged.

    It’s a really cool success story.

    Sure, it’s always going to be a Rust Belt city that gave birth to some of our greatest industrialists in our nation’s history, who in turn took the “Forest City” and raped it’s resources leaving those scars we’ll see for as long as we’re alive.

    But it’s also home to some truly gorgeous areas, districts and neighborhoods that are lucky to have some future-minded (and thankfully very wealthy) people making sure they stay that way and help change the damage that was done in the past to those less fortunate areas. Declining population isn’t helping, but it’s still home to many Fortune 500 HQ’s, and AmLaw 50 firms, arguably the best hospital in the nation, world class theatre, symphony and academic institutions, which is why every time I fly back I’m happy for the progress I see and thankful for the hands it’s in. Ugly scars and all.
    Yes, and Western PA has some equally good fishing- Walleye, Steelhead in the fall spawning up out of the Lake, Coho Salmon, the usual lake species (Lake Erie Perch has been over fished in the past commercially), Trout, etc. Also there was a recent article that the Air quality is best it has been in a number of years. Efforts of Automotive Vehicle Emissions as part of annual inspections, (and less drivers during the pandemic) and the shut down of a local Coke Plant (not the soda pop...) that was emitting the byproducts out the smoke stacks and being in violation of clean air regulations probably also helped in recent years.

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ID:	414901 Porters and Stouts and Ambers, oh my. This place had more than just the typical IPAs and sour fruity shit. More to come the next few days

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