The Official Argue About Where Upstate NY Is Thread

[huckbucket]

In the past two pages I’ve seen the words “neatherlands” and “hinterlands”

Sure wish we could resolve this. Do “badlands” apply west of 81? cause it’d be cool to live in the badlands.

[gravitylover]

How close to a Kodak plant are we talking?

[huckbucket]

How close to a Kodak plant are we talking?

nah man .... those are brownfields

[ex-powderbroker]

I thought we settled on Rt 6/ Seven Lakes ages ago.

I know I am stepping back into the thread after a prolonged absence but this is crazy talk. I just can't wrap my head around NYC as a destination with "world class climbing", as pictured. Plus Ramapo and Sloatsburg have the revolutionary feel / apple picking feel to them. NYC has a little farm in Queens and, honestly, they can't compete with "Big Honeycrisp" upstate. Would someone please think of the farmers!

[BmillsSkier]

I know I am stepping back into the thread after a prolonged absence but this is crazy talk. I just can't wrap my head around NYC as a destination with "world class climbing", as pictured. Plus Ramapo and Sloatsburg have the revolutionary feel / apple picking feel to them. NYC has a little farm in Queens and, honestly, they can't compete with "Big Honeycrisp" upstate. Would someone please think of the farmers!

The sky in that picture tells me it's Pure Upstate.

[huckbucket]

I know I am stepping back into the thread after a prolonged absence but this is crazy talk. I just can't wrap my head around NYC as a destination with "world class climbing", as pictured. Plus Ramapo and Sloatsburg have the revolutionary feel / apple picking feel to them. NYC has a little farm in Queens and, honestly, they can't compete with "Big Honeycrisp" upstate. Would someone please think of the farmers!

Yeah… and we got them brainiac Cornell ag dudes splicing god knows what varietals together to make the next gen of honey-sugar-crisp-coco-crunchers.

[riser4]

Yeah… and we got them brainiac Cornell ag dudes splicing god knows what varietals together to make the next gen of honey-sugar-crisp-coco-crunchers.

As long as I can still smoke weed out of one, I'm good with it.

[huckbucket]

As long as I can still smoke weed out of one, I'm good with it.

Knowing those Ithaca types, that’s a critical step in product planning.

[riser4]

Knowing those Ithaca types, that’s a critical step in product planning.

Heh, engineer a built in screen.

[rideit]

Upstate Dead Head literary content, seems about right.

"

WRUR
World Cafe

Peter Conners’ debut novel draws from his 'Deadhead' youth, when he followed the Grateful Dead
WXXI News | By Jeff Spevak
Published September 12, 2022 at 1:50 PM EDT

Peter Conners.
A great opening paragraph for a novel? Call me Ishmael. Yes, fans of Moby-Dick, simplicity works.

But try this:

“The worn-out wipers smeared mist across the windshield blurring boundaries between the interstate, sky, and my own foggy mood. Industrial smokestacks rose like ancient Roman columns around the upstate city of Syracuse, New York. It was as if a gray veil had been pulled across the world. Within that veil lay the timeline of history: humankind’s yearning for spiritual transcendence locked in struggle against our ceaseless cycles of birth, sex, death, and survival. I didn’t know that murder lay ahead. I didn’t know that reuniting with my old friend would rescue me from isolation, but cost the last vestiges of my youth. As I drove through dark stretches of bleak October earth, there were ghosts in every dip of featureless landscape between Ithaca, New York and Burlington, Vermont. The sky bled with moisture that was neither snow, rain, or sleet, but some mixture of all three"

I will definitely read this, sounds like the zeitgeist of my youth.

https://www.wrur.org/wrur-blog/2022-...-grateful-dead

[Timberridge]

Holy similies batman.

[byates1]

Is this debate what forces Benny to make an alias and set us all straight?

[riser4]

Is this debate what forces Benny to dust off an alias and set us all straight?

Fify

[Dexter Rutecki]

Benny's back?

[Brownski]

I know I am stepping back into the thread after a prolonged absence but this is crazy talk. I just can't wrap my head around NYC as a destination with "world class climbing", as pictured. Plus Ramapo and Sloatsburg have the revolutionary feel / apple picking feel to them. NYC has a little farm in Queens and, honestly, they can't compete with "Big Honeycrisp" upstate. Would someone please think of the farmers!

Ok, fair point…
The CT border someplace around Brewster to route 6 in Yorktown, west through Peekskill, across the BMB, down the PIP to exit 14, Call Hollow rd south into Suffern, 287 to the Jersey border. All agreed?

[rideit]

Thread drift, I want a proper Knish.

[ex-powderbroker]

Ok, fair point…
The CT border someplace around Brewster to route 6 in Yorktown, west through Peekskill, across the BMB, down the PIP to exit 14, Call Hollow rd south into Suffern, 287 to the Jersey border. All agreed?

Below 287 is Westchester. Long Island is the Island whether you are in Montauk or Hicksville.

Brewster (?) and points unknown are Upstate.

[MakersTeleMark]

Thread drift, I want a proper Knish.

I love me the food truck ones. Brings back so many memories.

https://www.copymethat.com/r/p3LZOk5...developed-by-/

[Core Shot]

Thread drift, I want a proper Knish.

You have to go downstate for that.

[rideit]

Has there been a determination on if Saratoga is upstate?

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUser..._New_York.html

[Brownski]

Below 287 is Westchester. Long Island is the Island whether you are in Montauk or Hicksville.

Brewster (?) and points unknown are Upstate.

287 follows 87 across the TZB, through Rockland and then splits and goes south in Suffern. That’s the part I’m referencing. Black line is the border

[Brownski]

Has there been a determination on if Saratoga is upstate?

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUser..._New_York.html

Yes
Even the “north of 90” deviants agree on that

[m2711c]

careful, saying saratoga three times will definitely summon the benny.

[Danno]

I was born in Plattsburgh and grew up in CNY, the Hudson Valley and the Capital District. Even if I moved to Hollywood, I would still be an upstater- couldn’t wash it off if I wanted to- which I don’t. I married a Rockland girl and that’s where I live now. Nice people around here for sure but they are not my people. Its not the city obviously but it sure seems like downstate. It has more in common with Long Island than it does with upstate. And Westchester… definitely downstate.

Rockland County is like Northwest Jersey, not Long Island (it only seems like Long Island because Long Island and Jersey are far more similar than either would like to admit). It is neither upstate nor downstate. Neither is willing to accept it as their own.

Also, if you put it to a vote, the folks in the city would not draw the line at the Bronx, or would do so in jest only. We always knew that "Westchester" is not upstate, we just call it that to annoy the people from Westchester. But anything north of Westchester? Fuck, no idea what county that is, which means upstate.

[Danno]

Thread drift, I want a proper Knish.

There's a thread for that. JongLaffite has the droids you're looking for.