The Official Argue About Where Upstate NY Is Thread

[wooley12]

Looping back a page, I feel like the upstate is where much of those old 1950s style Betty Crocker casseroles might have been invented.

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You mean the Corning Ware casseroles?

Oaks Corners is Upstate. A knew of a guy who had a thriving business there in the 70's. Made fake noses for opera companies from all over the world.

[gravitylover]

Yeah, but we're still no closer to answering "Where is Upstate?" We are very close to finalizing the southern border near I-84, but ongoing attempts by some of the WNY, Finger Lakes, CNY and 'Dak crowd to identify as their own region are making things difficult.

This thread is an awesome mix of homerism, nostalgia and stoke. Nice work boys!

No we're not. It's 287 not 84 and that upstate PA idea posited recently is no good. You just won't convince me that places like Alfred and Olean aren't The Upstate we're looking for.

[Brownski]

No we're not. It's 287 not 84 and that upstate PA idea posited recently is no good. You just won't convince me that places like Alfred and Olean aren't The Upstate we're looking for.

I’m actually having second thoughts on this. Peekskill has a sort of upstate flavor but Tarrytown, Ossining and Croton do not. We’re getting close though. Is West Point upstate?

[gravitylover]

Ok maybe. How about Rt 6 here on the east side of The River? That splits Peekskill, puts Somers downstate and the hillbilly side of Yorktown in the Upstate. The west side of the river has to drop down to 287 because Nyack is firmly Upstate and there are a few other burgs over there that are definitely Upstate like Florida and Warwick.

[m2711c]

Anything with its own standing army is its own area.

[gravitylover]

^^ An armory, golf course and a ski area. It is kind of it's own zone.

[rideit]

And a Wegman’s to complete the Venn Diagram

[Aldo]

Seaking of its own zone, anybody familiar with the Vic as they call it over at West Point? Its on my radar this year....

[MakersTeleMark]

If it has woods, it's upstate. If you can hunt deer, it's upstate.

There, I said it. Fight me.

[Benny Profane]

So, I have a question. Is Greek Peak in some sort of mountain range? Seemed to be the flattest place I've ever driven to a pretty damn good ski area. What happened there?

[hatchgreenchile]

No we're not. It's 287 .

Damn, I thought we really getting close, but you moved the demarcation line 30 miles south.
That's going to be a 'No' from me.

[hatchgreenchile]

So, I have a question. Is Greek Peak in some sort of mountain range? Seemed to be the flattest place I've ever driven to a pretty damn good ski area. What happened there?

Lava dome complex, like Mammoth!

[riser4]

Damn, I thought we really getting close, but you moved the demarcation line 30 miles south.
That's going to be a 'No' from me.

Ya well, I put 84 as the Northern border of upstate. So take that.

[Brownski]

Ok maybe. How about Rt 6 here on the east side of The River? That splits Peekskill, puts Somers downstate and the hillbilly side of Yorktown in the Upstate.

I drive through there pretty frequently. There’s been a really cool looking old Ford Ranchero parked by the Key Bank that catches my eye every time I go by.

[EWG]

There, I said it. Fight me.

Now THAT'S upstate.

[BmillsSkier]

Right? It’s perfect.

[ötzi]

So, I have a question. Is Greek Peak in some sort of mountain range? Seemed to be the flattest place I've ever driven to a pretty damn good ski area. What happened there?

It's a geological feature known as a Monadnock, Mr. Profane.

[rideit]

As opposed to a Drumlin, which formed a lot of hills in CNY.
Well, the glaciers formed them, IIRC.

[Brownski]

And now I know what a Drumlin and a Monadnock is. Seems like glaciers get blamed for everything.

[fastfred]

So, I have a question. Is Greek Peak in some sort of mountain range? Seemed to be the flattest place I've ever driven to a pretty damn good ski area. What happened there?

supposedly the glaciers invaded down from canada and stopped somewhere around the "southern tier" as they receded back north and melted out and on there trip down they dug all the valleys and the finger lakes which created the places like greek peak

the barge canal and thruway area is the flater than kansas and everything bumps up big time like around chittenango south to greek peak and beyond

that whole area has some of the most amazing road riding around, no traffic unless your on one of the state highways and endless back roads that just repeat 250-500 ft climbs over and over

[Benny Profane]

Yeah, looked sweet. I haven't seen a better place that combines decent skiing and road riding anywhere. All the roads were freshly paved. Ithaca was surprisingly gritty, though.

[gravitylover]

^Don't miss Bristol and Labrador while you're in CNY.

Damn, I thought we really getting close, but you moved the demarcation line 30 miles south.
That's going to be a 'No' from me.

Some of those dumpy zones north of Nyack and south of Rt 6 are totally upstate.

I drive through there pretty frequently. There’s been a really cool looking old Ford Ranchero parked by the Key Bank that catches my eye every time I go by.

I live a mile off Rt 6 in Mahopac. Bring a mtb, I'll show you some fun stuff.

[fastfred]

the roads in "upstate" are in great shape high taxes I guess?
was riding once a couple years ago with my cousin we were finishing out the day from Cazenovia to Chittenango on rt 13 mostly downhill gradually for miles it was getting dark maybe saw a handful of cars we were hauling absolute ass down the middle of the road it was so surreal it was amazing smiling the whole way total out of body

can't wait for may

[Brownski]

Oneida County is pretty far upstate

[BmillsSkier]

Woah, who let the sun out?