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  1. #5726
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    Quote Originally Posted by From_the_NEK View Post
    Does Upstate start at the CT/MA border or the MA/VT border (if you extended either of those lines out across NY)?

    And out of curiosity, does anyone know where the Upper Valley ends (See area along the Connecticut River)? Vermont seems to be caught in between some serious "Upper" decking.

    Maybe this question needs its own thread.
    Heh. Great place to live, shitty neighborhood.

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    The Official Argue About Where Upstate NY Is Thread

    Hofbrauhaus in Buffalo is a great space, and it’s rocking. What a great addition to the city.

    Upstate residents loves their beer, German food and live entertainment ! Prost!

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    Lookin good in the HB beerhall! Have a couple liters and some wurst for me.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warthog View Post
    Not sure where we stand on this, but my school just beat Boise State and Clemson in the Charleston Classic, and the announcers keep referring to us being from Upstate NY. I didn't read the whole thread, or any of it. Is the Southern Tier considered Upstate?
    Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Definitely not the Southern Tier. Western NY right their.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu Gotz View Post
    Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Definitely not the Southern Tier. Western NY right their.
    ^^
    This joker gets it.

    Wife is a Bonnie alum. Southern tier is the very bosom of NY. Some may say it's for pros only.

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    The Southern Tier is thankfully still a mostly unknown quantity. It's beautiful, uncrowded and has some of the best and worst markers of Upstate.

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    i’ve said it before and I’ll say it again……


    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    the southern tier barely qualifies as upstate.... more like northern pennsylvania.










    yep.




    fact.

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  9. #5734
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    Strange, when I was there we referred to the area as the Southern Tier. They even renamed Rt 17 as the Southern Tier Expressway. Oh well, all I know is it was a beautiful place to spend 4 years in college. Awesome ski town 20 minutes away, all the best weed, 9 hole golf course on campus with $1 cart rentals, some of the best mtn biking I have ever seen accessible right from my doorway, killer camping spots, etc. etc.

    If you have never done a fall drive on Rt 17 (Southern Tier Expressway), you are missing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu Gotz View Post
    Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Definitely not the Southern Tier. Western NY right their.
    Not to confuse this any more, but can anyone explain to me why Southern Tier Brewing is in Lakewood,NY on Chautauqua Lake?
    Is Chautauqua Lake in Western NY? It is 45 minutes West of Bonaventure. Seems like if one of the nations best craft breweries thinks they are in the Southern Tier, I am going to trust them. Discuss...

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    Southern tier is upstate

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    Southern Tier has rez gas, smokes, blue tarps and great skiing.

    Upstate.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warthog View Post
    Strange, when I was there we referred to the area as the Southern Tier. They even renamed Rt 17 as the Southern Tier Expressway. Oh well, all I know is it was a beautiful place to spend 4 years in college. Awesome ski town 20 minutes away, all the best weed, 9 hole golf course on campus with $1 cart rentals, some of the best mtn biking I have ever seen accessible right from my doorway, killer camping spots, etc. etc.

    If you have never done a fall drive on Rt 17 (Southern Tier Expressway), you are missing out.
    Where were you in there? I've only barely outnumbered the miles I drove on Rt 17 here in CO even though I've been here as long as in NY
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    Quote Originally Posted by warthog View Post
    Chautauqua Lake
    One of the more ass-puckering experiences you can have is to find yourself on a closed I-86/NY17 during a puking lake effect blizzard with only the faint taillights of two highway plows in each lane ahead of you, escorting you and a Volvo to the nearest off-ramp, as you cross the bridge over Chautauqua Lake.

    The wind hits your car like a ton of bricks down the N-S lake as it steams in from Lake Erie with all that lake effect with it, kicking the 3' of fresh the plows are removing from the bridge straight into the air to the point you can't tell which end is up. You can't stop either cause there's two trucks behind you as well.

    I've never been so happy to feel the other side of a bridge under my tires (still couldn't see).
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    i’ve said it before and I’ll say it again……








    fact.
    The southern tier is just Northernmost portion of West Virginia with a good swath of Western PA being North Central WV. But...it is still upstate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    One of the more ass-puckering experiences you can have is to find yourself on a closed I-86/NY17 during a puking lake effect blizzard with only the faint taillights of two highway plows in each lane ahead of you, escorting you and a Volvo to the nearest off-ramp, as you cross the bridge over Chautauqua Lake.

    The wind hits your car like a ton of bricks down the N-S lake as it steams in from Lake Erie with all that lake effect with it, kicking the 3' of fresh the plows are removing from the bridge straight into the air to the point you can't tell which end is up. You can't stop either cause there's two trucks behind you as well.

    I've never been so happy to feel the other side of a bridge under my tires (still couldn't see).
    That is a picture well painted.

    I also remember an 8 hour drive from Olean to Albany during a torrential rain that closes RTE 17 and most of the North South routes that could get me to I90. It was pre Google maps and I will admit I was pretty damned nervous hitting closed road after closed road weaving north. Finally got to 90 and made it through the Mohawk Valley narrow spot about 10 minutes before they closed 90.

    The Southern Tier is dark and desolate and if one listens they hear dueling banjos and if you squints you can see Ned Beatty beside each weathered oak tree or fallen down barn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    One of the more ass-puckering experiences you can have is to find yourself on a closed I-86/NY17 during a puking lake effect blizzard with only the faint taillights of two highway plows in each lane ahead of you, escorting you and a Volvo to the nearest off-ramp, as you cross the bridge over Chautauqua Lake.

    The wind hits your car like a ton of bricks down the N-S lake as it steams in from Lake Erie with all that lake effect with it, kicking the 3' of fresh the plows are removing from the bridge straight into the air to the point you can't tell which end is up. You can't stop either cause there's two trucks behind you as well.

    I've never been so happy to feel the other side of a bridge under my tires (still couldn't see).
    My knuckles got white just reading this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warthog View Post
    Not to confuse this any more, but can anyone explain to me why Southern Tier Brewing is in Lakewood,NY on Chautauqua Lake?
    Is Chautauqua Lake in Western NY? It is 45 minutes West of Bonaventure. Seems like if one of the nations best craft breweries thinks they are in the Southern Tier, I am going to trust them. Discuss...
    As long as we're playing this game, someone needs to explain why Saranac is brewed in Utica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    As long as we're playing this game, someone needs to explain why Saranac is brewed in Utica.
    I think one of their taglines is "from the foothills of the adirondack mountains"

    btw-10" of lake effect last night

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    Quote Originally Posted by half-fast View Post
    btw-10" of lake effect last night
    Now we’re getting somewhere. Pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC13 View Post
    That is a picture well painted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntblanks View Post
    My knuckles got white just reading this.
    Thanks fellas, I can still see the scene in my mind like it was yesterday. Easily the most scared I've ever been behind the wheel. The bridge turns to the left when heading West and with how deep the snow was and how strong the wind was, all I could think was that I'd hit the massive snowbanks on either side and launch over into the lake and no one would be the wiser given the unequivocal whiteout.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    Thanks fellas, I can still see the scene in my mind like it was yesterday. Easily the most scared I've ever been behind the wheel. The bridge turns to the left when heading West and with how deep the snow was and how strong the wind was, all I could think was that I'd hit the massive snowbanks on either side and launch over into the lake and no one would be the wiser given the unequivocal whiteout.
    Something like this happened in Albany once. A dude went missing in the middle of a snow storm, never made it home. In the spring, months later, somebody eventually spotted his car upside down between a couple of elevated highways. Speculation is he went up and over a snowbank like a ramp, then got covered by more snowfall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownski View Post
    Now we’re getting somewhere. Pics?
    No pics. 10” fell where its not doing any good. The ski areas south of here only got a couple of inches, same up north. I’m kinda bummed, supposed to be 45 and sunny tomorrow, was hoping to play golf

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    You’re killing me

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