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06-10-2020, 11:41 AM #151
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06-10-2020, 11:56 AM #152
those statutes were built to repress black freedom. it's easy to say that in hind site. when they were being installed blacks were second class citizens and being kept down with bullshit stereotypes and the lost cause was glorified. all southern civil war general statutes should come down and go into museums
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06-10-2020, 11:57 AM #153
(names changed to protect the innocent) my younest son's Middle name is Jones, "Beth Jones" has shown up a good bit in our family the last 150 years or so. My great great grandfather was shot and captured at antitam, seved 3 years at Johnson Island. beth jones was a nurse there that looked after him. As soon as he could he named a daughter after her. We've been doing so in bits and pieces ever since.
"Can't you see..."
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06-10-2020, 12:02 PM #154
So let's talk about "traitors." How do you describe the "protestors" and current civil disrest in this country aimed at dismanteling our national, state and local governments? Are they not also "traitors?" Weren't also the revolutionaries who fought against the Queen's government "traitors?"
Last time I checked, I had a Hale relative way back there hanged as traitor. Dammit, that makes two traitors in my lineage.In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).
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06-10-2020, 12:05 PM #155
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06-10-2020, 12:08 PM #156
I know a dude who grew up a Jets fan, and switched to a Patriots fan when he moved to CT. That's fucked up.
"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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06-10-2020, 12:10 PM #157
I know some Packers fans. That's even more fucked up.
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06-10-2020, 12:11 PM #158
No need for the scare quotes Lee and Davis were either traitors who violated their oath or enemies of America who renounced their citizenship to join a mythical nation of slavery.
It's as if an Army officer renounced his or her oath to defend the United States then took up arms against America by joining ISIS.
If the South wants to honor Southern-born officers then a statue for George Henry Thomas fits the bill. All that guy did was win.
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06-10-2020, 12:11 PM #159
I don't have a problem with peaceful protests, i.e. the exercise of the first amendment. Where do the rest of the protesters fit, the building burners, looters, police shooters, etc? Other than as criminals, please define.
In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).
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06-10-2020, 12:16 PM #160
i'm willing to give tnken a little credit on the quotes, referring to language usage and not implying intent or casting aspersions
tho it's a razor's edge that could easily fall into that
there has been criminal activity that isn't unpatriotic, ie reaction to injustice
and there's been some that is decidedly motivated by chaos or evil, just out to cause civil unrest
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06-10-2020, 12:22 PM #161
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06-10-2020, 12:33 PM #162yelgatgab
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Statue of Robert E. Lee and other confederate symbols
There is a truth to these monuments that isn’t open for debate nor interpretation. 30 minutes of research on almost any of them will show you who spearheaded and funded the projects and the land acquisition. You’ll see the articles and PR behind it. The people that spoke at its dedication and the words they used, and the people that showed up to show their support. The only sensible conclusion is that these are symbols of fear and hate and racism.
Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.
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06-10-2020, 12:44 PM #163
Yeah, fuck looters. I'm fine with that. People exercising their first amendment right to protest is quite American. Also, they're calling for reform of institutions that clearly are not performing their duties properly. Again, very American.
Raising arms against America as an institution and trying to supplant the laws and leadership is quite another thing altogether.
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06-10-2020, 12:45 PM #164
Wow
Protesting systemic racism is traitorous?
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06-10-2020, 12:48 PM #165
for the group that is (legitimately) angry enough to break the law, you'd be hard pressed to have anyone deny they are breaking the law...even them
but that is exactly how rough it is, that their only option for raising issues of injustice is destruction of property or fighting with police or whatever
injustice continues for a select group of americans despite repeated attempts to raise the issue under the legal bounds of current law
consider what you are suggesting: you don't have a problem with the way things are & anyone bringing energetic attention to it is out of line
don't be offended by the action -- listen & understand the scope & scale of what the issue is
it is pretty earth shaking
i don't feel compelled to tell my kid how to act submissive and respectful because he will inevitably will be randomly stopped by race-profiling police. do you?
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06-10-2020, 12:48 PM #166
Lots of things to digest in this thread today. I will mull them over this evening while sipping some Makers over ice with a twist of fresh ginger. I will then offer up my thoughts in the am.
"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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06-10-2020, 12:50 PM #167
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06-10-2020, 12:56 PM #168
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06-10-2020, 12:57 PM #169
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06-10-2020, 12:57 PM #170
Yep, there are some building burners, looters and police shooters among the protesters. Criminals, I'll grant you that, although the number of those has greatly diminished as the protesters have policed them themselves. But even at the worst the percentage of criminals among the protesters was considerably less than the percentage of criminals among, oh say the United States Congress or the Forbes 100 richest Americans, and dramatically less than the percentage of criminals among the police.
As far as the protesters wanting to dismantle local, state and federal governments--I suppose there might be a handful of anarchists among them advocating that but if so I must of missed it. But I'm sure that if there's even one, they'll be featured by Fox News.
Understand that the aim of the protesters is not to exercise their 1st Amendment rights and then go away. It's to effect meaningful change in all the institutions of our society that systematize racism, and to abolish those that will not change. Free speech without change is just hot air.
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06-10-2020, 12:57 PM #171Registered User
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It could have been worse
what if they came out
as snowboarders ?Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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06-10-2020, 12:58 PM #172
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06-10-2020, 12:58 PM #173Registered User
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There are protesters, rioters, and looters. You may be rioting because you protest how shit is, but I define these people as rioters so you don't fuck up the good work the protesters are doing.
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06-10-2020, 01:01 PM #174
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06-10-2020, 01:26 PM #175
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